New subject: Some thoughts about moVirt

Monday, 9 February 2015

----- Original Message -----
...
 From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com&gt;
 To: "Martin Polednik" <mpolednik(a)redhat.com&gt;
 Cc: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek(a)redhat.com&gt;, "Greg Sheremeta"
<gshereme(a)redhat.com&gt;, "Martin Betak"
 <mbetak(a)redhat.com&gt;, "Doron Fediuck" <doron(a)redhat.com&gt;,
"sphoorti joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com&gt;,
 movirt(a)ovirt.org
 Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 2:31:08 PM
 Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt

 ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "Martin Polednik" <mpolednik(a)redhat.com&gt;
 > To: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek(a)redhat.com&gt;
 > Cc: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com&gt;, "Greg
Sheremeta"
 > <gshereme(a)redhat.com&gt;, "Martin Betak"
 > <mbetak(a)redhat.com&gt;, "Doron Fediuck" <doron(a)redhat.com&gt;,
"sphoorti
 > joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com&gt;,
 > movirt(a)ovirt.org
 > Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 12:58:36 PM
 > Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > > From: "Tomas Jelinek" <tjelinek(a)redhat.com&gt;
 > > To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com&gt;
 > > Cc: "Greg Sheremeta" <gshereme(a)redhat.com&gt;, "Martin
Betak"
 > > <mbetak(a)redhat.com&gt;, "Doron Fediuck" <doron(a)redhat.com&gt;,
 > > "sphoorti joglekar" <sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com&gt;, "Martin
Polednik"
 > > <mpoledni(a)redhat.com&gt;, movirt(a)ovirt.org
 > > Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 8:03:19 AM
 > > Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
 > > 
 > > (adding martin and movirt list - rest inline)
 > > 
 > > ----- Original Message -----
 > > > From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com&gt;
 > > > To: "Greg Sheremeta" <gshereme(a)redhat.com&gt;
 > > > Cc: "Martin Betak" <mbetak(a)redhat.com&gt;, "Doron
Fediuck"
 > > > <doron(a)redhat.com&gt;,
 > > > "sphoorti joglekar"
 > > > <sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com&gt;, "Tomas Jelinek"
<tjelinek(a)redhat.com&gt;
 > > > Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 3:37:46 PM
 > > > Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
 > > > 
 > > > 
 > > > 
 > > > ----- Original Message -----
 > > > > From: "Greg Sheremeta" <gshereme(a)redhat.com&gt;
 > > > > To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com&gt;
 > > > > Cc: "Martin Betak" <mbetak(a)redhat.com&gt;, "Doron
Fediuck"
 > > > > <doron(a)redhat.com&gt;,
 > > > > "sphoorti joglekar"
 > > > > <sphoorti.joglekar(a)gmail.com&gt;, "Tomas Jelinek"
<tjelinek(a)redhat.com&gt;
 > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 4:27:22 PM
 > > > > Subject: Re: Some thoughts about moVirt
 > > > > 
 > > > > ----- Original Message -----
 > > > > > From: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com&gt;
 > > > > > To: "Martin Betak" <mbetak(a)redhat.com&gt;,
"Greg Sheremeta"
 > > > > > <gshereme(a)redhat.com&gt;
 > > > > > Cc: "Doron Fediuck" <doron(a)redhat.com&gt;
 > > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 2:12:20 AM
 > > > > > Subject: Some thoughts about moVirt
 > > > > > 
 > > > > > 1. I will be glad to see a wiki page on how I can get involved
with
 > > > > > moVirt.
 > > > > > For example, I have a new galaxy note4 phone. I will get soon a
 > > > > > "monster
 > > > > > machine" with 16 gigs, and some SSD, and 1 TB disk on it.
Ok, I can
 > > > > > install
 > > > > > ovirt all-in-one on it, now what?
 > > > > > I don't even know how to configure browsing via the mobile
device
 > > > > > to
 > > > > > my
 > > > > > home
 > > > > > network (i.e - access my mahcine) - yes, i know this is not a
 > > > > > "strictly
 > > > > > moVirt" problem, but if you provide this info it will ease
others
 > > > > > to
 > > > > > start
 > > > > > developing. I would like to know how I can start contributing
to
 > > > > > moVirt.
 > > > > > 
 > > > > > 2. Maybe I missed it - what is the decision about the
technology?
 > > > > > Native
 > > > > > Java
 > > > > > ? Cordova? Something else? If native, maybe we should encourage
 > > > > > somehow
 > > > > > others to start porting to IOS/ Windows Phone, etc?
 > > > > > 
 > > > > > 
 > > > > > Cheers,
 > > > > > Yair
 > > > > > 
 > > > > > 
 > > > > 
 > > > > Adding Sphoorti and Tomas, as they are running this show :)
 > > > 
 > > > Oops, sorry for that.
 > > > 
 > > > > 
 > > > > 1. 16 GB is not "monster" -- better put 32 or 64 in it :D
 > > > > I think Sphoorti has already worked on some documentation, and may
 > > > > have
 > > > > plans
 > > > > to do more?
 > > > 
 > > > Yeah, so as I wrote down, if I have let's say some modem + router at
 > > > home,
 > > > how can I work against my "all-in-one" ovirt installation?
 > > 
 > > Well, if both your phone and your monster machine is connected to the
 > > same
 > > router you are both on the same network. So if you can not see oVirt from
 > > mobile, there is some problem with firewall on the all-in-one.
 > >  
 > > On https://github.com/matobet/moVirt is the project page. It contains the
 > > sources, an unsigned build you can install to play with, some
 > > documentation
 > > on how to setup movirt and also how to setup the devel env.
 > > Ping us all the time if you have any issues setting it up. But please
 > > make
 > > sure you are using exactly the versions of everything as stated on wiki -
 > > any change in gradle or android-studio can have fatal consequences :D
 > > 
 > > Connecting to your environment - well, you need to have access to the
 > > engine's REST API from your phone. Than in the moVirt you just need to
 > > fill
 > > the API URL, name and password.
 > > Connecting securely using https is a bit tricky - you need to have the CA
 > > cert imported to your phone and connect to REST using the proper URL as
 > > stated in the cert.
 > > For devel env you can use the HTTPS and pick the "Disable HTTPS" -
it
 > > will
 > > not check the cert and will work without proper url (e.g. with IP) and
 > > without cert imported.
 > > 
 > > > 
 > > > 
 > > > > 
 > > > > 2. The decision was native Java. For now, afaik, iOS isn't being
 > > > > considered.
 > > > > Windows Phone is not popular, but it might be more popular among
 > > > > server
 > > > > admin types? Not sure.
 > > 
 > > Currently Android and surprisingly it works nice as-is on blackberry :)
 > > Even
 > > the devel env with debugger etc(!!!)
 > > Martin (Polednik) was considering to port it to iOS, not sure - Martin?
 > > Also a friend of Sphoorti (the current OPW intern) is very insterested in
 > > porting it to iOS as a different OPW. But this is very uncertain - not
 > > sure
 > > who could lead her and not sure about funding etc...
 > 
 > Heya,
 > I'm looking into building native iOS oVirt app, so far I've started
 > designing
 > the storyboard (UI) and interaction. Some of the decisions were going with
 > objective-C (due to internal hate for swift) and going iPhone only as the
 > first
 > iteration target in order to get the UI as iOSy as possible.
 > 
 > But I have to admit that my experience with iOS or mobile development
 > overall
 > is quite limited, so I see no issues with either joint efforts or
 > developing
 > two apps and seeing which one is more suited for iVirt. :)

 What about porting of spice client to IOS? 
there are issues even on android with it :) I'd say it would be a lot of work porting
it for not too much gain - we have the option of VNC. 
And until we don't have the client itself, I don't see too much point in porting a
console for it.

...

 > 
 > > > 
 > > > Ok, good to know.
 > > > > 
 > > > > Greg
 > > > > 
 > > > 
 > > 
 > 

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