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From: "David Jaša" <djasa@redhat.com> To: "Malini Rao" <mrao@redhat.com> Cc: "users" <users@ovirt.org> Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2013 6:05:44 AM Subject: Re: [Users] Proposal for a fresh look and feel for Ovirt
Hi Malini,
Malini Rao píše v St 06. 11. 2013 v 16:53 -0500:
Hey David,
Your questions are valid and reasonable and we should have good answers for these. However, what I shared with you guys for now is a pure skinning update to give a airier and more modern look. The skinning has been updated to match exactly with what exists today... so the labels are not going to be wider, rows are not taller etc. Therefore any problems that exist today will exist in the new design as well.
OK, I'm fine with that. I have also already commented on this in my first reply.
The minimalist skinning and design strategy will generally improve the visual clutter issues to a certain extent. But this is not to say this is the sum total of the purpose of this exercise. This skinning update proposal is a starting point to then begin thinking of examining other aspects that have a deeper usability/ user experience impact including responsive design etc.
My wish wrt width is something much more humble than responsive design. I just wish that the design doesn't break (items don't hide or reorder) when something goes wrong. Current design preserves look at the expense of functionality in such cases which is IMO wrong. The ideal is responsive design - to maintain functionality while adjusting look to the device - but when that ideal is not feasible (which is not currently without the overhaul you mention below), it's better to maintain functionality... Maybe the attached screenshot tells more than my text above.
David, we are working on the design for a temp fix for this as we speak so that access to functionality is not lost. Basically, it is a overflow mechanism to get to the tabs and toolbar icons that are currently inaccessible when the situation such as the one in your screenshot occurs. I think short of responsive design and/or reconsideration of the information architecture for Ovirt, this is the best short term way of dealing with this.
We should also look across the application and check for consistency in interaction patterns - so things just don't look consistent but behave consistently as well.
So, if we want to start generating a laundry list of UI overhaul items, that will be great.
Please do remember these once you start planning such bigger rework.
But again, the scope of this initial exercise is very limited. This skinning exercise too will likely roll out in phases and we may start with the bigger and more static elements first and then move into the details.
I know I didn't answer your specific questions but only because they are not impacted by this design any more than the current design. Hope this makes sense.
Sure and thanks for reply. Cheers,
David
Thanks Malini
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Jaša" <djasa@redhat.com> To: "Malini Rao" <mrao@redhat.com> Cc: "users" <users@ovirt.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 9:46:24 AM Subject: Re: [Users] Proposal for a fresh look and feel for Ovirt
Hi Malini,
I hope my feedback is not too late. There is a big thumb up on the design, while the current design certainly is not bad, this is way better!
I'd like to hear though if some of current deficiencies are addressed:
1) how does design cope with increased tab/button width (by ui plugins) or reduced viewport width? Current way is overflow with hidden elements or artifacts - not cool
2) at what minimum font size will the design break?
David
Malini Rao píše v Po 14. 10. 2013 v 13:06 -0400:
Hi all,
Here is a proposal for updating the ovirt look and feel to give it a fresh and modern look - http://www.ovirt.org/Ovirt_LAF. Your feedback and input is invited.
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