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----- Original Message -----
From: "victor nunes" <victor.rebli(a)gmail.com
To: "Yair Zaslavsky" <yzaslavs(a)redhat.com
Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Itamar Heim"
<iheim(a)redhat.com
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012
2:14:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Users] tool engine-manage-domains
Hello,
I'm going to do all these tests, but a question.
I need to configure Kerberos on the server LDAP?
Att,
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2012/12/4 Yair Zaslavsky < yzaslavs(a)redhat.com >
> Hi,
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> Several things -
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> a. I think logging at this point should be improved
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> b. Since the log is not informative enough, please try the
> following:
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> 1. Check that your credentials are correct
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> 2. Check you have no clock skew issue (the time difference between
> the machine running manage-domains and your ldap server should be
> less or equal to 5 minutes).
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> 3. Connection refused so there is some connectivity issue -
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> please query your ldap SRV records for the domain (IMHO dig SRV
> _ldap._tcp. viperde.com.br should do the trick)
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> please try to connect to these ldap servers manually -
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> For example, if the returned host from the dig SRV query is
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> aaa.viperde.com.br
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> perform:
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> telnet aaa.viperde.com.br 389
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> Turns out that I did not have telnet installed on my fc17
machine -
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> I used yum install telnet to install it.
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> Kind regards,
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> Yair
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> > From: "victor nunes" < victor.rebli(a)gmail.com
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> > To: "Itamar Heim" < iheim(a)redhat.com
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> > Cc: "Yair Zaslavsky" < yzaslavs(a)redhat.com >, users(a)ovirt.org
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> > Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 3:28:56 AM
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> > Subject: Re: [Users] tool engine-manage-domains
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> > Thanks for the reply.
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> > I do not have another machine to the power configuar
FreeIPA.
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> > I have a machine, I do not have access, which is an LDAP
server
> > installed on it.
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> > I configured a machine that is oVirt-manage as ldap client, I
> > configured the dns, but in time to include the domain happens the
> > following error:
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> > Error: exception message: Connection refused
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> > Failure while testing domain viprede.com.br . Details: Kerberos
> > error. Please check log for further Top details.
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> > in the logs, I have the following lines:
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> > 03/12/2012 20:25:26,390 INFO
> > [org.ovirt.engine.core.utils.kerberos.ManageDomains] Creating
> > kerberos configuration for domain (s): viprede.com.br
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> > 03/12/2012 20:25:26,422 INFO
> > [org.ovirt.engine.core.utils.kerberos.ManageDomains] Successfully
> > created kerberos configuration for domain (s): viprede.com.br
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> > 03/12/2012 20:25:26,422 INFO
> > [org.ovirt.engine.core.utils.kerberos.ManageDomains] Testing
> > kerberos configuration for domain: viprede.com.br .
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> > So what could be this error?
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> > 2012/11/29 Itamar Heim < iheim(a)redhat.com
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> > > On 11/29/2012 05:58 AM, victor nunes wrote:
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> > > > 2012/11/29 Yair Zaslavsky <
yzaslavs(a)redhat.com <mailto:
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>
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> > > > Hi,
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> > > > Can you redirect your question to users(a)ovirt.org
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> > > > <mailto: users(a)ovirt.org >?
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> > > > I think others will help you to forward your
question to
> > > > relevant
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> > > > people here (not sure I can provide a good answer).
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> > > > On 11/29/2012 03:26 AM, victor nunes wrote:
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> > > > So I'm trying to install FreeIPA on the same
machine that
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> > > > oVirt-manage,
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> > > > but at the time of installation, the following error occurs:
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> > > > FreeIPA-server conflicts with 1:
mod_ssl-2.2.22-4.fc17.x86_64
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> > > > Looking for a solution to the problem, I
discovered that this
> > > > is
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> > > > a bug
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> > > > reported by others.
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> > > > Follow the link to the bug reported:
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/__ show_bug.cgi?id=3D840098
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> > > > <
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/
show_bug.cgi?id=3D840098
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> > > > Then, using oo FreeIPA not be possible, which
otherwise I
> > > > have
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> > > > to add
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> > > > new domains and users?
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> > > > Em 8 de novembro de 2012 02:41, Yair Zaslavsky
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> > > > < yzaslavs(a)redhat.com <mailto: yzaslavs(a)redhat.com
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> > > > <mailto: yzaslavs(a)redhat.com <mailto: yzaslavs(a)redhat.com
>>
> > > > escreveu:
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> > > > Hi,
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> > > > You cannot create new users for the internal domain.
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> > > > The internal domain was developed for quick POC, just to
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> > > > allow login
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> > > > to the system without the need for ldap provider.
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> > > > I recommend you install some ldap server (i.e - free IPA)
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> > > > and try to
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> > > > work with it.
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> > > > On 11/08/2012 01:08 AM, victor nunes wrote:
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> > > > Sorry.
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> > > >
Att,
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> > > > 2012/11/7 victor nunes <
victor.rebli(a)gmail.com
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> > > > <mailto: victor.rebli(a)gmail.com
>
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> > > > <mailto: victor.rebli(a)gmail.com
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> > > > <mailto: victor.rebli(a)gmail.com >__
> > >=20
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> > > > <mailto: victor.rebli(a)gmail.com
> > >=20
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> > > > <mailto: victor.rebli(a)gmail.com > <mailto:
> > > > victor.rebli(a)gmail.com
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> > > > <mailto: victor.rebli(a)gmail.com >__>__>
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> > > > Thanks for the reply.
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> > > > As the command "engine-manage-domains"
works with
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> > > > ldap, how
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> > > > can I
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> > > > create another user in the field "internal", and user
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> > > > "admin" that
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> > > > is created when you installed the engine-setup?
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> > > > 2012/11/4 Yair Zaslavsky <
yzaslavs(a)redhat.com
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> > > > <mailto: yzaslavs(a)redhat.com
>
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> > > > <mailto: yzaslavs(a)redhat.com <mailto: yzaslavs(a)redhat.com
>
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> > > > <mailto: yzaslavs(a)redhat.com
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> > > > <mailto: yzaslavs(a)redhat.com > <mailto: yzaslavs(a)redhat.com
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> > > > <mailto: yzaslavs(a)redhat.com >>>
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> > > > Hi,
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> > > > The specified tool handle only ldap domains,
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> > > > and not the
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> > > > internal domain.
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> > > > What would you like to change at the internal
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> > > > domain?
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> > > > I suggest you try to use engine-config for this.
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> > > > ------------------------------
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> > > > --__--__------------
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> > > > *From: *"victor nunes"
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> > > > < victor.rebli(a)gmail.com <mailto: victor.rebli(a)gmail.com
> > >=20
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> > > > <mailto: victor.rebli(a)gmail.com
> > >=20
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> > > > <mailto: victor.rebli(a)gmail.com >__
> > >=20
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> > > > <mailto: victor.rebli(a)gmail.com
> > >=20
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> > > > <mailto: victor.rebli(a)gmail.com
>
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> > > > <mailto: victor.rebli(a)gmail.com
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> > > > <mailto: victor.rebli(a)gmail.com >__>__>
> > >=20
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> > > > *To: * users(a)ovirt.org
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> > > > <mailto: users(a)ovirt.org > <mailto: users(a)ovirt.org
> > >=20
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> > > > <mailto: users(a)ovirt.org >
>
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> > > > <mailto: users(a)ovirt.org <mailto: users(a)ovirt.org
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> > > > <mailto: users(a)ovirt.org <mailto: users(a)ovirt.org >>
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> > > > *Sent: *Sunday, November 4, 2012 12:18:55 AM
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> > > > *Subject: *[Users] tool engine-manage-domains
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> > > > I'm trying to change the default domain, the
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> > > > "internal" with
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> > > > the following command:
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> > > > engine-manage-domains -action=3Dedit
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> > > > -domain=3Dinternal
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> > > > However, i am getting the following message:
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> > > > "Domain internal doesn't exist int the
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> > > > configuration"
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> > > > This is my domain admin user that is
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> > > > configured in the
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> > > > installation ovirt-setup.
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> > > > So, how can i fix it to include a user in
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> > > > this domain?
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> > > >
Att,
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> > > > --
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> > > > =E2=80=9CEncarada do ponto de vista da juventude,
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> > > > a vida
> > >=20
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> > > > parece um
> > >=20
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> > > > futuro
> > >=20
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> > > > indefinidamente longo, ao passo que, na
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> > > > velhice,
> > >=20
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> > > > ela parece
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> > > > um passado
> > >=20
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> > > > deveras curto. Assim, a vida no seu in=C3=ADcio se
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> > > > apresenta do
> > >=20
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> > > > mesmo modo
> > >=20
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> > > > que as coisas quando as olhamos atrav=C3=A9s de um
> > >=20
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> > > > bin=C3=B3culo usado
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> > > > ao contr=C3=A1rio; mas, ao
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> > > > seu final, ela se parece com as coisas
> > >=20
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> > > > tal qual
> > >=20
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> > > > s=C3=A3o vistas
> > >=20
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> > > > quando o bin=C3=B3culo
> > >=20
> >=20
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> > > > =C3=A9 usado de modo normal. Um homem precisa ter
> > >=20
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> > > > envelhecido e
> > >=20
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> > > > vivido
> > >=20
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> > > > bastante para perceber como a vida =C3=A9 curta=E2=80=9D.
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> > >
(Poema de
Arthur Schopenhauer)
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> > > > ______________________________
_____________________
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> > > > Users mailing list
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> > > > Users(a)ovirt.org <mailto: Users(a)ovirt.org > <mailto:
> > > > Users(a)ovirt.org
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> > > > <mailto: Users(a)ovirt.org >> <mailto: Users(a)ovirt.org
> > >=20
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> > > > <mailto: Users(a)ovirt.org
>
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> > > > <mailto: Users(a)ovirt.org <mailto: Users(a)ovirt.org >>
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> > > >
http://lists.ovirt.org/____
mailman/listinfo/users
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> > > > <
http://lists.ovirt.org/__ mailman/listinfo/users
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> > > > <
http://lists.ovirt.org/__
mailman/listinfo/users
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> > > > <
http://lists.ovirt.org/ mailman/listinfo/users >
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> > > > --
> > >=20
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> > > > =E2=80=9CEncarada do ponto de vista da juventude, a vida
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> > > > parece um
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> > > > futuro
> > >=20
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> > > > indefinidamente longo, ao passo que, na velhice,
> > >=20
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> > > > ela parece
> > >=20
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> > > > um passado
> > >=20
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> > > > deveras curto. Assim, a vida no seu in=C3=ADcio se
> > >=20
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> > > > apresenta do
> > >=20
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> > > > mesmo modo
> > >=20
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> > > > que as coisas quando as olhamos atrav=C3=A9s de um
> > >=20
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> > > > bin=C3=B3culo usado ao
> > >=20
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> > > > contr=C3=A1rio; mas, ao
> > >=20
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> > > > seu final, ela se parece com as coisas tal qual
> > >=20
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> > > > s=C3=A3o vistas
> > >=20
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> > > > quando o
> > >=20
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> > > > bin=C3=B3culo
> > >=20
> >=20
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> > > > =C3=A9 usado de modo normal. Um homem precisa ter
> > >=20
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> > > > envelhecido e
> > >=20
> >=20
>=20
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> > > > vivido
> > >=20
> >=20
>=20
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> > > > bastante para perceber como a vida =C3=A9 curta=E2=80=9D.
> > >=20
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> > >
(Poema de
Arthur Schopenhauer)
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> > > > --
> > >=20
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> > > > =E2=80=9CEncarada do ponto de vista da juventude, a vida parece
> > >=20
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> > > > um futuro
> > >=20
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> > > > indefinidamente longo, ao passo que, na velhice, ela
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> > > > parece um
> > >=20
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> > > > passado
> > >=20
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> > > > deveras curto. Assim, a vida no seu in=C3=ADcio se apresenta
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> > > > do mesmo
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> > > > modo
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> > > > que as coisas quando as olhamos atrav=C3=A9s de um bin=C3=B3culo
> > >=20
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> > > > usado ao
> > >=20
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> > > > contr=C3=A1rio; mas, ao
> > >=20
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> > > > seu final, ela se parece com as coisas tal qual s=C3=A3o
> > >=20
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> > > > vistas quando o
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> > > > bin=C3=B3culo
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> > > > =C3=A9 usado de modo normal. Um homem precisa ter
> > >=20
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> > > > envelhecido e vivido
> > >=20
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> > > > bastante para perceber como a vida =C3=A9 curta=E2=80=9D.
> > >=20
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> > >
(Poema de
Arthur Schopenhauer)
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> > > > --
> > >=20
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> > > > =E2=80=9CEncarada do ponto de vista da juventude, a vida parece u=
m
> > > > futuro
> > >=20
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> > > > indefinidamente longo, ao passo que, na velhice, ela parece
> > > > um
> > >=20
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> > > > passado
> > >=20
> >=20
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> > > > deveras curto. Assim, a vida no seu in=C3=ADcio se apresenta do
> > > > mesmo
> > >=20
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> > > > modo
> > >=20
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> > > > que as coisas quando as olhamos atrav=C3=A9s de um bin=C3=B3culo =
usado
> > > > ao
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> > > > contr=C3=A1rio; mas, ao
> > >=20
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> > > > seu final, ela se parece com as coisas tal qual s=C3=A3o vistas
> > > > quando
> > > > o
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> > > > bin=C3=B3culo
> > >=20
> >=20
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> > > > =C3=A9 usado de modo normal. Um homem precisa ter envelhecido e
> > > > vivido
> > >=20
> >=20
>=20
=20
> > > > bastante para perceber como a vida =C3=A9 curta=E2=80=9D.
> > >=20
> >=20
>=20
=20
> > >
(Poema de
Arthur Schopenhauer)
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> > > > --
> > >=20
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> > > > =E2=80=9CEncarada do ponto de vista da juventude, a vida parece u=
m
> > > > futuro
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>=20
=20
> > > > indefinidamente longo, ao passo que, na velhice, ela parece
> > > > um
> > > > passado
> > >=20
> >=20
>=20
=20
> > > > deveras curto. Assim, a vida no seu in=C3=ADcio se apresenta do
> > > > mesmo
> > > > modo
> > >=20
> >=20
>=20
=20
> > > > que as coisas quando as olhamos atrav=C3=A9s de um bin=C3=B3culo =
usado
> > > > ao
> > >=20
> >=20
>=20
=20
> > > > contr=C3=A1rio; mas, ao
> > >=20
> >=20
>=20
=20
> > > > seu final, ela se parece com as coisas tal qual s=C3=A3o vistas
> > > > quando
> > > > o
> > >=20
> >=20
>=20
=20
> > > > bin=C3=B3culo
> > >=20
> >=20
>=20
=20
> > > > =C3=A9 usado de modo normal. Um homem precisa ter envelhecido e
> > > > vivido
> > >=20
> >=20
>=20
=20
> > > > bastante para perceber como a vida =C3=A9 curta=E2=80=9D.
> > >=20
> >=20
>=20
=20
> > >
(Poema de
Arthur Schopenhauer)
> > >=20
> >=20
>=20
=20
> > > > ______________________________ _________________
> > >=20
> >=20
>=20
=20
> > > > Users mailing list
> > >=20
> >=20
>=20
=20
> > > > Users(a)ovirt.org
> > >=20
> >=20
>=20
=20
> > > >
http://lists.ovirt.org/ mailman/listinfo/users
> > >=20
> >=20
>=20
=20
> > > there are three issues with installing freeipa on same
machine
> > > as
> > > ovirt:
> >=20
>=20
=20
> > > 1. the mod_ssl, which is solvable, but requires some work on
> > > our
> > > side.
> >=20
>=20
=20
> > > 2. we faced some upgrade issues around this use case, though
> > > non
> > > are
> > > relevant right now iirc.
> >=20
>=20
=20
> > > 3. freeipa will override the default apache homepage
> > > redirection
> > > ovirt placed.
> >=20
>=20
=20
> > > have you considered running freeipa in a guest? you
can still
> > > use
> > > admin@internal for issues with that guest if needed.
> >=20
>=20
=20
> > --
>=20
=20
> > =E2=80=9CEncarada do ponto de vista da juventude, a vida parece um fu=
turo
>=20
=20
> > indefinidamente longo, ao passo que, na velhice, ela parece um
> > passado
>=20
=20
> > deveras curto. Assim, a vida no seu in=C3=ADcio se apresenta do mesmo
> > modo
>=20
=20
> > que as coisas quando as olhamos atrav=C3=A9s de um bin=C3=B3culo usad=
o
ao
> > contr=C3=A1rio; mas, ao
>=20
=20
> > seu final, ela se parece com as coisas tal qual s=C3=A3o vistas quand=
o
> > o
> > bin=C3=B3culo
>=20
=20
> > =C3=A9 usado de modo normal. Um homem precisa ter envelhecido e vivid=
o
>=20
=20
> > bastante para perceber como a vida =C3=A9 curta=E2=80=9D.
>=20
=20
>
(Poema de Arthur Schopenhauer)
>=20
=20
--
=E2=80=9CEncarada do ponto de vista da juventude, a vida parece um futuro
indefinidamente longo, ao passo que, na velhice, ela parece um
passado
deveras curto. Assim, a vida no seu in=C3=ADcio se apresenta do mesmo mod=
o
que as coisas quando as olhamos atrav=C3=A9s de um bin=C3=B3culo
usado ao
contr=C3=A1rio; mas, ao
seu final, ela se parece com as coisas tal qual s=C3=A3o vistas quando o
bin=C3=B3culo
=C3=A9 usado de modo normal. Um homem precisa ter envelhecido e vivido
bastante para perceber como a vida =C3=A9 curta=E2=80=9D.
(Poema de Arthur Schopenhauer)
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12pt; color: #000000'><br><br><hr
id=3D"zwchr"><blockquote style=3D"border-=
left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000=
;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helv=
etica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"victor
nunes" <vic=
tor.rebli(a)gmail.com&gt;<br><b>To: </b>"Yair Zaslavsky"
&lt;yzaslavs(a)redhat.=
com><br><b>Cc: </b>users(a)ovirt.org, "Itamar Heim"
&lt;iheim(a)redhat.com&g=
t;<br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, December 6, 2012 2:14:49
AM<br><b>Subject: </b=
Re: [Users] tool
engine-manage-domains<br><br><div>Hello,</div><div><br></=
div><div>I'm going to do all these tests, but a
question.</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>I need to configure Kerberos on the server
LDAP?</div><div><br></di=
v><div
id=3D"DWT2299">Att,</div></blockquote>Yes.<br><br><blockquote
style=
=3D"border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px=
;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-=
family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><div></div><br><div
clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote"
2012/12/4 Yair Zaslavsky <span
dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:yzaslavs@r=
edhat.com"
target=3D"_blank">yzaslavs(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
s=
olid;padding-left:1ex"
<div><div
style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,time=
s,serif"><font face=3D"times new roman, new york, times,
serif">Hi,</font><=
div style=3D"font-family:'times new roman','new
york',times,serif"
Several things -</div><div
style=3D"font-family:'times new roman','new york=
',times,serif">a. I think logging at this point should be
improved</div><di=
v style=3D"font-family:'times new roman','new
york',times,serif"
b. Since the log is not informative
enough, please try the following:</div>=
<div style=3D"font-family:'times new roman','new
york',times,serif">1. Chec=
k that your credentials are correct</div><div
style=3D"font-family:'t=
imes new roman','new york',times,serif"
2. Check
you have no clock skew issue (the time difference between the mach=
ine running manage-domains and your ldap server should be less or equal to =
5 minutes).</div><div style=3D"font-family:'times new
roman','new york',tim=
es,serif"
3. Connection refused so there is
some connectivity issue - </div><div=
<font face=3D"times new roman, new york, times,
serif">please query your l=
dap SRV records for the domain (IMHO dig SRV
_ldap._tcp.</font><font face=
=3D"Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a
href=3D"http://viperde.com.br" target=
=3D"_blank">viperde.com.br</a> should do the
trick) </font></div
<div><font face=3D"Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">please try to
connect to t=
hese ldap servers manually
-</font></div><div><br></div><div><font
face=3D"=
Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">For example, if the returned host from the di=
g SRV query is</font></div
<div><font face=3D"Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a
href=3D"http://aaa.vipe=
rde.com.br"
target=3D"_blank">aaa.viperde.com.br</a></font></div><div><font=
face=3D"Helvetica, Arial,
sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face=3D"=
Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">perform:</font></div
<div><font face=3D"Helvetica, Arial,
sans-serif">telnet <a href=3D"http://a=
aa.viperde.com.br" target=3D"_blank">aaa.viperde.com.br</a>
389</font></div=
<div><font face=3D"Helvetica, Arial,
sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><fo=
nt
face=3D"Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Turns out that I did not have teln=
et installed on my fc17 machine -</font></div
<div><font face=3D"Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I used yum
install telnet =
to install it.</font></div><div><font face=3D"Helvetica, Arial,
sans-serif"=
<br></font></div><div><font
face=3D"Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Kind reg=
ards,</font></div
<div><font
face=3D"Helvetica, Arial,
sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><fon=
t face=3D"Helvetica, Arial,
sans-serif">Yair</font></div><div><font face=3D=
"Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div
style=3D"font-family:'=
times new roman','new york',times,serif"
<br><hr><blockquote
style=3D"padding-left:5px;font-size:12pt;font-style:nor=
mal;margin-left:5px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:=
none;font-weight:normal;border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,255)"><b>From:
</b>=
"victor nunes" <<a href=3D"mailto:victor.rebli@gmail.com"
target=3D"_bla=
nk">victor.rebli(a)gmail.com</a>&gt;<br
<b>To: </b>"Itamar Heim" <<a
href=3D"mailto:iheim@redhat.com" target=3D"=
_blank">iheim(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:
</b>"Yair Zaslavsky" <<a href=
=3D"mailto:yzaslavs@redhat.com"
target=3D"_blank">yzaslavs(a)redhat.com</a>&g=
t;, <a href=3D"mailto:users@ovirt.org"
target=3D"_blank">users(a)ovirt.org</a=
<br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, December 4, 2012
3:28:56 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [U=
sers] tool engine-manage-domains<div><div
class=3D"h5"><br><br><div>Thanks =
for the reply.</div><div><br></div><div>I do not have
another machine to th=
e power configuar FreeIPA.</div
<div><br></div><div>I have a machine, I do not have access,
which is an LDA=
P server installed on it.</div
<div>I configured a machine
that is oVirt-manage as ldap client, I configur=
ed the dns, but in time to include the domain happens the following error:<=
/div><div><br></div><div>Error: exception message: Connection
refused</div
<div>Failure while testing domain <a href=3D"http://viprede.com.br"
target=
=3D"_blank">viprede.com.br</a>. Details: Kerberos error. Please check
log f=
or further Top details.</div><div><br></div><div>in the
logs, I have the fo=
llowing lines:</div
<div><br></div><div>03/12/2012 20:25:26,390 INFO
[org.ovirt.engine.core.uti=
ls.kerberos.ManageDomains] Creating kerberos configuration for domain (s): =
<a href=3D"http://viprede.com.br"
target=3D"_blank">viprede.com.br</a></div=
<div>03/12/2012 20:25:26,422 INFO
[org.ovirt.engine.core.utils.kerberos.Man=
ageDomains] Successfully created kerberos configuration for domain (s): <a =
href=3D"http://viprede.com.br"
target=3D"_blank">viprede.com.br</a></div
<div>03/12/2012 20:25:26,422 INFO
[org.ovirt.engine.core.utils.kerberos.Man=
ageDomains] Testing kerberos configuration for domain: <a href=3D"http://vi=
prede.com.br"
target=3D"_blank">viprede.com.br</a>.</div><div><br></div><di=
v
So what could be this error?</div
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2012/11/29
Itamar Heim <span dir=3D"ltr"><=
;<a href=3D"mailto:iheim@redhat.com"
target=3D"_blank">iheim(a)redhat.com</a>=
></span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"
On 11/29/2012 05:58 AM, victor nunes wrote:<br
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"
<br
<br
2012/11/29 Yair Zaslavsky <<a
href=3D"mailto:yzaslavs@redhat.com" target=
=3D"_blank">yzaslavs(a)redhat.com</a> <mailto:<a
href=3D"mailto:yzaslavs@r=
edhat.com"
target=3D"_blank">yzaslavs(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;&gt;<div
<br>
<br
Hi,<br
Can you redirect your question to <a
href=3D"mailto:users@ovi=
rt.org"
target=3D"_blank">users(a)ovirt.org</a><br></div
<mailto:<a
href=3D"mailto:users@ovirt.org" target=3D"_blan=
k">users(a)ovirt.org</a>&gt;?<div
<br>
I think others will help you to forward your question to
rele=
vant<br
people here
(not sure I can provide a good answer).<br
<br
<br
<br
On 11/29/2012
03:26 AM, victor nunes wrote:<br
<br
So I'm trying to install FreeIPA on the same ma=
chine that<br
oVirt-manage,<br
but at the time of installation, the following =
error occurs:<br
<br
FreeIPA-server conflicts with 1:
mod_ssl-2.2.22=
-4.fc17.x86_64<br
<br
<br
Looking for a solution to the problem, I discov=
ered that this is<br
a bug<br
reported by others.<br
<br
Follow the link to the bug reported:<br></div
<a
href=3D"https://bugzilla.redhat.com/__show_b=
ug.cgi?id=3D840098"
target=3D"_blank">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/__<u><...
show_bug.cgi?id=3D840098</a><div
<br>
<<a
href=3D"https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show=
_bug.cgi?id=3D840098"
target=3D"_blank">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/<u></...
show_bug.cgi?id=3D840098</a>><br
<br
Then, using oo FreeIPA not be possible, which o=
therwise I have<br
to add<br
new domains and users?<br
<br
Em 8 de novembro de 2012 02:41, Yair Zaslavsky<=
br
<<a
href=3D"mailto:yzaslavs@redhat.com" targ=
et=3D"_blank">yzaslavs(a)redhat.com</a> <mailto:<a
href=3D"mailto:yzaslavs=
@redhat.com"
target=3D"_blank">yzaslavs(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;<br></div
<mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:yzaslavs@redhat.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">yzaslavs(a)redhat.com</a> <mailto:<a
href=3D"mailto:y=
zaslavs(a)redhat.com"
target=3D"_blank">yzaslavs(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;&gt;&gt; e=
screveu:<div
<br
<br
<br
Hi,<br
You cannot create new users=
for the internal domain.<br
The internal domain was dev=
eloped for quick POC, just to<br
allow login<br
to the system without the n=
eed for ldap provider.<br
I recommend you install som=
e ldap server (i.e - free IPA)<br
and try to<br
work with it.<br
<br
<br
<br
On 11/08/2012 01:08 AM, vic=
tor nunes wrote:<br
<br
Sorry.<br
<br
Att,<br
<br
2012/11/7 vic=
tor nunes <<a href=3D"mailto:victor.rebli@gmail.com"
target=3D"_blank">v=
ictor.rebli(a)gmail.com</a
<br>
<mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:victor.rebli@gmail=
.com"
target=3D"_blank">victor.rebli(a)gmail.com</a><u></u>&gt;<br
<mailto:<a=
href=3D"mailto:victor.rebli@gmail.com"
target=3D"_blank">victor.rebli@gmai=
l.com</a
<br>
<mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:victor.rebli@gmail=
.com"
target=3D"_blank">victor.rebli(a)gmail.com</a><u></u>&gt;__&gt;<br
<mailto:<a=
href=3D"mailto:victor.rebli@gmail.com"
target=3D"_blank">victor.rebli@gmai=
l.com</a
<br>
<mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:victor.rebli@gmail=
.com"
target=3D"_blank">victor.rebli(a)gmail.com</a><u></u>&gt;
<mailto:<a=
href=3D"mailto:victor.rebli@gmail.com"
target=3D"_blank">victor.rebli@gmai=
l.com</a><br></div
<mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:victor.rebli@gmail=
.com"
target=3D"_blank">victor.rebli@gmail.com</a><u></u>>__>__>&g=
t;<div
<br>
<br
<br
<br
 =
; Thanks for the reply.<br
<br
 =
; As the command "engine-manage-domains" works with<br
ldap, how<br
can I<br
 =
; create another user in the field "internal", and user<br
"admin" that<=
br
 =
; is created when you installed the engine-setup?<br
<br
 =
; 2012/11/4 Yair Zaslavsky <<a href=3D"mailto:yzaslavs@redhat.com"
targe=
t=3D"_blank">yzaslavs(a)redhat.com</a
<br>
<mailto:<a
href=3D"mailto:yzaslavs@redhat.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">yzaslavs(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;<br
<mailto:<a=
href=3D"mailto:yzaslavs@redhat.com"
target=3D"_blank">yzaslavs(a)redhat.com<=
/a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:yzaslavs@redhat.com"
target=3D"_blank">yza=
slavs(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;&gt;<br
 =
; <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:yzaslavs@redhat.com"
target=3D"_blank">yzasl=
avs(a)redhat.com</a
<br>
<mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:yzaslavs@redhat.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">yzaslavs(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;
<mailto:<a href=3D"mail=
to:yzaslavs@redhat.com" target=3D"_blank">yzaslavs(a)redhat.com</a
<br>
<mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:yzaslavs@redhat.co=
m"
target=3D"_blank">yzaslavs@redhat.com</a>>>><u></u>><br
<br
<br
<br
 =
; Hi,<br
 =
; The specified tool handle only ldap domains,<br
and not
the<br
 =
; internal domain.<br
 =
; What would you like to change at the internal<br
domain?<br
 =
; I suggest you try to use engine-config for this.<br
<br
<br
<br
<br></div
------------------------------<u></u>____------=
--------------------<u></u>--__--__------------<div
<br>
<br
<br
 =
; *From: *"victor nunes"<br
<<a
href=3D"mailto:victor.rebli@gmail.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">victor.rebli(a)gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a
href=3D"mailto:vi=
ctor.rebli(a)gmail.com"
target=3D"_blank">victor.rebli(a)gmail.com</a><u></u>&g=
t;<br
<mailto:<a=
href=3D"mailto:victor.rebli@gmail.com"
target=3D"_blank">victor.rebli@gmai=
l.com</a
<br>
<mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:victor.rebli@gmail=
.com"
target=3D"_blank">victor.rebli@gmail.com</a><u></u>>__><br></di=
v><div
 =
; <mailto:<a
href=3D"mailto:victor.rebli@gma=
il.com" target=3D"_blank">victor.rebli(a)gmail.com</a
<br>
<mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:victor.rebli@gmail=
.com"
target=3D"_blank">victor.rebli(a)gmail.com</a><u></u>&gt;<br
<mailto:<a=
href=3D"mailto:victor.rebli@gmail.com"
target=3D"_blank">victor.rebli@gmai=
l.com</a><br></div
<mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:victor.rebli@gmail=
.com"
target=3D"_blank">victor.rebli@gmail.com</a><u></u>>__>__>&g=
t;<div><div
<br>
 =
; *To: *<a
href=3D"mailto:users@ovirt.org" targ=
et=3D"_blank">users(a)ovirt.org</a
<br>
<mailto:<a
href=3D"mailto:users@ovirt.org" t=
arget=3D"_blank">users(a)ovirt.org</a>&gt; <mailto:<a
href=3D"mailto:users=
@ovirt.org" target=3D"_blank">users(a)ovirt.org</a
<br>
<mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:users@ovirt.org" t=
arget=3D"_blank">users(a)ovirt.org</a>&gt;&gt;<br
<mailto:<a=
href=3D"mailto:users@ovirt.org"
target=3D"_blank">users(a)ovirt.org</a> <=
mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:users@ovirt.org"
target=3D"_blank">users(a)ovirt.org=
</a>><br
<mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:users@ovirt.org" t=
arget=3D"_blank">users(a)ovirt.org</a> <mailto:<a
href=3D"mailto:users@ovi=
rt.org"
target=3D"_blank">users(a)ovirt.org</a>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br
<br
 =
; *Sent: *Sunday, November 4, 2012 12:18:55
AM<=
br
 =
; *Subject: *[Users] tool
engine-manage-domains=
<br
<br
<br
<br
 =
; I'm trying to change the default domain,
the<=
br
"internal" wi=
th<br
 =
; the following command:<br
<br
 =
; engine-manage-domains
-action=3Dedit<br
-domain=3Dinternal<br
<br
 =
; However, i am getting the following
message:<=
br
<br
 =
; "Domain internal doesn't exist int
the<br
configuration"<br
<br
 =
; This is my domain admin user that
is<br
configured in the<br
 =
; installation ovirt-setup.<br
<br
 =
; So, how can i fix it to include a user
in<br
this domain?<br
<br
<br
 =
; Att,<br
<br
<br
<br
<br
 =
; --<br
 =
; =E2=80=9CEncarada do ponto de vista da
juvent=
ude,<br
a vida<br
parece um<br
 =
; futuro<br
 =
; indefinidamente longo, ao passo que,
na<br
velhice,<br
ela parece<br=
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<br
there are
three issues with installing freeipa on same machine as ovirt:<br=
1. the mod_ssl, which is solvable, but requires some work on
our side.<br
2. we faced some upgrade issues
around this use case, though non are releva=
nt right now iirc.<br
3. freeipa will override the default
apache homepage redirection ovirt plac=
ed.<br
<br
have you
considered running freeipa in a guest? you can still use admin@int=
ernal for issues with that guest if needed.<br
</blockquote></div><br><br
clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>=E2=80=9CEnc=
arada do ponto de vista da juventude, a vida parece um futuro<br>indefinida=
mente longo, ao passo que, na velhice, ela parece um passado <br>deveras cu=
rto. Assim, a vida no seu in=C3=ADcio se apresenta do mesmo modo<br
que as coisas quando as olhamos atrav=C3=A9s de um bin=C3=B3culo usado ao c=
ontr=C3=A1rio; mas, ao <br>seu final, ela se parece com as coisas tal=
qual s=C3=A3o vistas quando o bin=C3=B3culo<br>=C3=A9 usado de modo normal=
. Um homem precisa ter envelhecido e vivido<br
bastante para perceber como a vida =C3=A9 curta=E2=80=9D.
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Schopenhauer)<br
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lear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>=E2=80=9CEncarada
do ponto de vista da j=
uventude, a vida parece um futuro<br>indefinidamente longo, ao passo que, n=
a velhice, ela parece um passado <br
deveras
curto. Assim, a vida no seu in=C3=ADcio se apresenta do mesmo modo<=
br>que as coisas quando as olhamos atrav=C3=A9s de um bin=C3=B3culo usado a=
o contr=C3=A1rio; mas, ao <br>seu final, ela se parece com as coisas =
tal qual s=C3=A3o vistas quando o bin=C3=B3culo<br
=C3=A9
usado de modo normal. Um homem precisa ter envelhecido e vivido<br>b=
astante para perceber como a vida =C3=A9 curta=E2=80=9D.
<br><=
br> (Poema de Arthur
Schopenhauer)<br
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