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On 11.09.2014 19:20, Douglas Schilling Landgraf wrote:
I do believe we are improving all components of oVirt release
after release, including oVirt Node. Discouraging people to use it
(or any other component) won't help the project. We are here to
listen the feedback from users to improve the software and
sometimes adding new features based in their requests and
suggestions. I know you are a very active contributor in this
project and thanks for that, if you still have issues in the node
please keep the bugzillas coming.
Sorry for getting Off-Topic:
Well yeah, I see lots of improvement, also in the node project.
But when people ask about what do you recommend for production
I really can't call for node (yet).
Most deployments tend to need customization specific to the site
where the deployment takes place and in the past it was very
hard to alter node for your personal needs (that's also not the
projects main goal imho).
I don't want to discourage anyone from testing node, but I won't
recommend it for production, as I wouldn't recommend fedora
(and breakage has happened for people using fedora, just search this
mailing list).
I really appreciate all the work that is done and I see many
improvements, but when it comes to giving advice, some developers
are a little naive, I can even make a list:
someone has a problem in production:
"yeah this is fixed in $BETA (or $ALPHA), just try it out" (without
even mentioning that it's a beta release!)
"you could easily backport the fix yourself, it's just a one liner"
"you need to alter config param $X" (not mentioning this param
gets overwritten on upgrades)
and so on.
I know these are all just good intentions, but I think
some people seem to think those people asking are all just
running test environments, which is plainly wrong, or I don't
know what they think, maybe that it's already robust enough.
the project has matured so much, you should keep in mind
people might use it to run their business/store sensitive
data/host very critical machines on top of ovirt.
this is great, but this also comes with some kind of
responsibility on the side of a developer. At least
that's my opinion when I develop stuff (not such
huge projects ;) )
I know there are labels on every open source project
and in all software licenses like "use at your own risk".
But there is some moral responsibility for stuff you do
you can't talk away with some legal paper saying your
not responsible for what you do (code) or advice you
give.
Maybe you should just ask yourself sometimes:
"would I do myself what I just advocated
if I have really sensible data in my environment?"
Anyway, keep up the good work! I know it's
all good intentions and of course every developer
wants his new features getting used. :)
Thanks
Sven
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