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I normally assume that any performance gain from directlly attaching a
LUN to a Virtual Machine then using it in the traditional way are so
little to compensate the extra hassle to do that. I would avoid as much
as I cacn use it, unless it is for some very special reason where you
cannot do in any other way. The only real usage for it so far was
Microsoft SQL Server Clustering requirements.
Fernando
On 14/06/2017 03:23, Idan Shaby wrote:
Direct luns are disks that are not managed by oVirt. Ovirt
communicates directly with the lun itself, without any other layer in
between (like lvm in image disks).
The advantage of the direct lun is that it should have better
performance since there's no overhead of another layer in the middle.
The disadvantage is that you can't take a snapshot of it (when
attached to a vm, of course), can't make it a part of a template,
export it, and in general - you don't manage it.
Regards,
Idan
On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Stefano Bovina <bovy89(a)gmail.com
<mailto:bovy89@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thank you very much.
What about "direct lun" usage and database example?
2017-06-08 16:40 GMT+02:00 Elad Ben Aharon <ebenahar(a)redhat.com
<mailto:ebenahar@redhat.com>>:
Hi,
Answer inline
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Stefano Bovina
<bovy89(a)gmail.com <mailto:bovy89@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,
does a storage best practise document for oVirt exist?
Some examples:
oVirt allows to extend an existing storage domain: Is it
better to keep a 1:1 relation between LUN and oVirt
storage domain?
What do you mean by 1:1 relation? Between storage domain and
the number of LUNs the domain reside on?
If not, is it better to avoid adding LUNs to an already
existing storage domain?
No problems with storage domain extension.
Following the previous questions:
Is it better to have 1 Big oVirt storage domain or many
small oVirt storage domains?
Depends on your needs, be aware to the following:
- Each domain has its own metadata which allocates ~5GB of the
domain size.
- Each domain is being constatntly monitored by the system, so
large number of domain can decrease the system performance.
There are also downsides with having big domains, like less
flexability
There is a max num VM/disks for storage domain?
In which case is it better to use "direct attached lun"
with respect to an image on an oVirt storage domain?
Example:
Simple web server: ----> image
Large database (simple example):
- root,swap etc: 30GB ----> image?
- data disk: 500GB -----> (direct or image?)
Regards,
Stefano
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<p>I normally assume that any performance gain from directlly
attaching a LUN to a Virtual Machine then using it in the
traditional way are so little to compensate the extra hassle to do
that. I would avoid as much as I cacn use it, unless it is for
some very special reason where you cannot do in any other way. The
only real usage for it so far was Microsoft SQL Server Clustering
requirements.<br>
</p>
<p>Fernando<br>
</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14/06/2017 03:23, Idan Shaby
wrote:<br>
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<div>Direct luns are disks that are not managed by oVirt.
Ovirt communicates directly with the lun itself, without
any other layer in between (like lvm in image disks).<br>
</div>
</div>
The advantage of the direct lun is that it should have better
performance since there's no overhead of another layer in the
middle.<br>
</div>
The disadvantage is that you can't take a snapshot of it (when
attached to a vm, of course), can't make it a part of a
template, export it, and in general - you don't manage it.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:10 PM,
Stefano Bovina <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:bovy89@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">bovy89(a)gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
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<div dir="ltr">Thank you very much.
<div>What about "direct lun" usage and database
example?</div>
<div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2017-06-08 16:40
GMT+02:00 Elad Ben Aharon <span
dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:ebenahar@redhat.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">ebenahar@redhat.com</a>></span>:<br>
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0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Hi,
<div>Answer inline<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><span>On
Thu,
Jun 8, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Stefano
Bovina <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:bovy89@gmail.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">bovy89(a)gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Hi,</div>
<div>does a storage best
practise document for oVirt
exist?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Some examples:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>oVirt allows to extend an
existing storage domain: Is it
better to keep a 1:1 relation
between LUN and oVirt storage
domain?</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</span>
<div>What do you mean by 1:1 relation?
Between storage domain and the
number of LUNs the domain reside
on? </div>
<span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>If not, is it better to
avoid adding LUNs to an
already existing storage
domain?</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</span>
<div>No problems with storage domain
extension.</div>
<span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Following the previous
questions:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Is it better to have 1 Big
oVirt storage domain or many
small oVirt storage domains?</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</span>
<div>Depends on your needs, be aware
to the following:</div>
<div>- Each domain has its own
metadata which allocates ~5GB of the
domain size.</div>
<div>- Each domain is being
constatntly monitored by the system,
so large number of domain can
decrease the system performance.</div>
<div>There are also downsides with
having big domains, like less
flexability </div>
<span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>There is a max num VM/disks
for storage domain?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>In which case is it better
to use "direct attached lun"
with respect to an image on an
oVirt storage domain? </div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div> </div>
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</blockquote>
</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0
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solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>
<div dir="ltr">
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Example:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Simple web server:
----> image</div>
<div>Large database (simple
example):</div>
<div> - root,swap etc: 30GB
----> image?</div>
<div> - data disk: 500GB
-----> (direct or image?)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Stefano</div>
</div>
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