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On 12/09/2013 09:42 AM, Blaster wrote:
I forgot my number 5) BIOS needs to work like a standard PC BIOS (as
does ESXi) in allowing you to press F8 to get a boot menu or F12 for
network boot.
I'll disagree a tiny bit here. One *really annoying* quality of needing
to use F2/F8/F12 during Windows bootup in a VM (including ESX/vSphere)
is that sometimes it can be impossible to be quick enough on the
keyboard to get attention before the OS bootup has begun. By the time
you can get a console focus it's too late. That can be enormously
frustrating, and Run Once does help with that.
VMware provides a (relatively hidden) option to mitigate this - there's
a radiobox in a menu somewhere that effectively says "issue an F2
immediately when the VM starts to boot up". This sends it straight into
the BIOS menu. That radiobox has saved what little remains of my hair.
I kind of like "Run Once" for most of my needs, but I do understand
Blaster's point for his scenario. If we evolve away from Run Once, it
will be super important to provide the feature similar to VMware to
force the machine into BIOS after power up.
Thanks,
Bob
This run once stuff is silly. It works fine the first time I create
a
VM as there's no bootable OS on the datastore, but if I need to re-PXE
boot a VM, then I have to Run Once..OK, fine, but when the PXE
completes it reboots, back into network boot, then I have to kill the
VM and restart it normally. Under a PC (or ESXi) BIOS, I just hit
F12, network boot, OS re-installs, then reboots normally. Much
better user experience. I gave our Red Hat sales people feedback on
this issue and was told it's not going to change.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/09/2013 09:42 AM, Blaster
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<div>I forgot my number 5) BIOS needs to work like a standard
PC BIOS (as does ESXi) in allowing you to press F8 to get a
boot menu or F12 for network boot. </div>
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I'll disagree a tiny bit here. One *really annoying* quality of
needing to use F2/F8/F12 during Windows bootup in a VM (including
ESX/vSphere) is that sometimes it can be impossible to be quick
enough on the keyboard to get attention before the OS bootup has
begun. By the time you can get a console focus it's too late. That
can be enormously frustrating, and Run Once does help with that.<br>
<br>
VMware provides a (relatively hidden) option to mitigate this -
there's a radiobox in a menu somewhere that effectively says "issue
an F2 immediately when the VM starts to boot up". This sends it
straight into the BIOS menu. That radiobox has saved what little
remains of my hair.<br>
<br>
I kind of like "Run Once" for most of my needs, but I do understand
Blaster's point for his scenario. If we evolve away from Run Once,
it will be super important to provide the feature similar to VMware
to force the machine into BIOS after power up.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Bob<br>
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<div>This run once stuff is silly. It works fine the first time
I create a VM as there’s no bootable OS on the datastore, but
if I need to re-PXE boot a VM, then I have to Run Once..OK,
fine, but when the PXE completes it reboots, back into network
boot, then I have to kill the VM and restart it normally.
Under a PC (or ESXi) BIOS, I just hit F12, network boot, OS
re-installs, then reboots normally. Much better user
experience. I gave our Red Hat sales people feedback on this
issue and was told it’s not going to change. </div>
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