On Apr 17, 2014, at 16:43 , Tamer Lima <tamer.americo(a)gmail.com> wrote:
hi, thanks for reply
I am investigating what is and how "thin virtualization" works
Do you know if HADOOP is indicated to work under "thin" environment ?
On Hadoop I will put large workloads and this thin virtualization utilizes more
resources than exists (shareable environment)
that is,
if I have a real physical necessity of 500gb for each hadoop host and my Thin
Virtualization has 2TB on NFS, I can have only 4 virtual machines (500GB each), or
less.
For this case I believe clone virtual machine is the right choice. But in my environment
it takes 1h30m to build one cloned virtual machine.
if you plan to overcommit then go with thin. The drawback is that if you of course hit the
physical limit the VMs will run out of space...
if you plan to allocate 500GB each, consume all of it, never plan to grow then go with the
"clone"….yes, it's going to take time to write all that stuff. With
"thin" you need to do the same amount of writes, but gradually over time while
you're allocating it it
hope it helps
Thanks,
michal
Am I correct ?
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Michal Skrivanek <michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
On Apr 16, 2014, at 16:41 , Tamer Lima <tamer.americo(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hello,
>
> I created VMs by two ways :
>
> 1) on tab virtual machines > new vm > template (centos_65_64bits)
> 1.1 configuration : I do not select stateless checkbox
> 1.2 this process takes a 1h30 to create each machine.
>
> 2) on tab pools > new vm > template (centos_65_64bits)
> 2.1 default configuration : stateless
> 2.2 Here I created 3 virtual machines at once
> 2.3 this process takes only one minute
>
> On the tab virtual machines I can see all virtual machines.
> Pooled machines have different icon image
> and description is different too:
>
> machines generated from tab VM are described as clone/dependent
> - clone is a phisical copy?
> machines generated from tab POOL are described as thin/independent
> - thin is a just a reference to template vm ? what is phisical? any configuration
file?
yeah, sort of.
just google thin provisioning in general:)
>
>
> In practice, what is the difference between these machines ?
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http://www.ovirt.org/Features/PrestartedVm
> "Today there are 2 types of Vm pools:
> • Manual - the Vm is supposed to be manually returned to the pool. In
practice, this is not really entirely supported.
> • Automatic - once the user shuts down the Vm - it returns to the pool
(stateless)."
>
> all vm created from pool are stateless ?
the automatic pool, yes
Thanks,
michal
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> thanks
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