Re: [ovirt-users] [ANN] oVirt 4.2.0 First Beta Release is now available for testing

Question is: who is the user ? There are different types of them for different proposes. Fernando On 31/10/2017 15:57, Oved Ourfali wrote: As mentioned earlier, this is one motivation but not the only one. You see right click less and less in web applications, as it isn't considered a good user experience. This is also the patternfly guideline (patternfly is a framework we heavily use throughout the application). We will however consider bringing this back if there will be high demand. Thanks for the feedback! Oved On Oct 31, 2017 7:50 PM, "Darrell Budic" <budic(a)onholyground.com&gt; wrote: > Agreed. I use the right click functionality all the time and will miss > it. With 70+ VMs, I may check status in a mobile interface, but I’m never > going to use it for primary work. Please prioritize ease of use on Desktop > over Mobile! > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* FERNANDO FREDIANI <fernando.frediani(a)upx.com&gt; > *Subject:* Re: [ovirt-users] [ANN] oVirt 4.2.0 First Beta Release is now > available for testing > *Date:* October 31, 2017 at 11:59:20 AM CDT > *To:* users(a)ovirt.org > > > On 31/10/2017 13:43, Alexander Wels wrote: > > > Will the right click dialog be available in the final release? Because, > currently in 4.2 we need to go at the up right corner to interact with > object (migrate, maintenance...) > > Short answer: No, we removed it on purpose. > > Long answer: No, here are the reasons why: > - We are attempting to get the UI more mobile friendly, and while its not > 100% > there yet, it is actually quite useable on a mobile device now. Mobile > devices > don't have a right click, so hiding functionality in there would make no > sense. > > Please don't put mobile usage over Desktop usage. While mobile usage is > nice to have in "certain" situations. In real day by day operation nobody > uses mobile devices to do their deployments and manage their large > environments. If having both options where you can switch between then is > nice, but if something should prevail should always be Desktop. We are not > talking about a Stock Trading interface or something you need that level or > flexibility and mobility to do static things anytime anywhere. > > So I beg you to consider well before remove things which are pretty > useful for a day by day and real management usage because of a new trend or > buzz stuff. > Right click is always on popular on Desktop enviroments and will be for > quite a while. > > - You can now right click and get the browsers menu instead of ours and > you > can do things like copy from the menu. > - We replicated all the functionality from the menu in the buttons/kebab > menu > available on the right. Our goal was to have all the commonly used > actions as > a button, and less often used actions in the kebab to declutter the > interface. > We traded an extra click for some mouse travel > - Lots of people didn't realize there even was a right click menu because > its > a web interface, and they couldn't find some functionality that was only > available in the right click menu. > > Now that being said, we are still debating if it was a good move or not. > For > now we want to see how it plays out, if a lot of people want it back, it > is > certainly possible we will put it back. > > that is something you are interested in. Its also much faster and better > than before. > > On 31/10/2017 10:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote: > > The oVirt Project is pleased to announce the availability of the First > Beta Release of oVirt 4.2.0, as of October 31st, 2017 > > > This is pre-release software. This pre-release should not to be used > in production. > > Please take a look at our community page[1] to learn how to ask > questions and interact with developers and users.All issues or bugs > should be reported via oVirt Bugzilla[2]. > > This update is the first beta release of the 4.2.0 version. This > release brings more than 230 enhancements and more than one thousand > bug fixes, including more than 380 high or urgent severity fixes, on > top of oVirt 4.1 series. > > > What's new in oVirt 4.2.0? > > * > The Administration Portalhas been completely redesigned using > Patternfly, a widely adopted standard in web application design. > It now features a cleaner, more intuitive design, for an improved > user experience. > * > There is an all-new VM Portalfor non-admin users. > * > A new High Performance virtual machinetype has been added to the > New VM dialog box in the Administration Portal. > * > Open Virtual Network (OVN)adds support for Open vSwitch software > defined networking (SDN). > * > oVirt now supports Nvidia vGPU. > * > The ovirt-ansible-rolespackage helps users with common > administration tasks. > * > Virt-v2vnow supports Debian/Ubuntu based VMs. > > For more information about these and other features, check out the > oVirt 4.2.0 blog post > <https://ovirt.org/blog/2017/09/introducing-ovirt-4.2.0/>;. > > > This release is available now on x86_64 architecture for: > > * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 or later > > * CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.4 or later > > > This release supports Hypervisor Hosts on x86_64 and ppc64le > architectures for: > > * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 or later > > * CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.4 or later > > * oVirt Node 4.2 (available for x86_64 only) > > > See the release notes draft [3] for installation / upgrade > instructions and a list of new features and bugs fixed. > > > Notes: > > - oVirt Appliance is already available. > > - An async release of oVirt Node will follow soon. > > > Additional Resources: > > * Read more about the oVirt 4.2.0 release highlights: > http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/ > <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/> > > * Get more oVirt project updates on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ovirt > > * Check out the latest project news on the oVirt blog: > http://www.ovirt.org/blog/ > > > [1] https://www.ovirt.org/community/ <https://www.ovirt.org/community/> > > [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oVirt > <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oVirt> > > [3] http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/ > <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/> > > [4] http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/ > <http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/> > > > SANDRO BONAZZOLA > > ASSOCIATE MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA ENG VIRTUALIZATION R&D > > Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/> > > <https://red.ht/sig> > TRIED. 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