On 16 Sep 2016, at 16:02, aleksey.maksimov(a)it-kb.ru wrote:
So, colleagues.
I again tested the Fencing and now I think that my host-server power-button (physically
or through ILO) sends a KILL-command to the host OS (and as a result to VM)
I’m not sure if there is any good workaround. You can always reconfigure(disable) ACPI in
the guest, then HA logic would work ok but it also means there is no graceful shutdown and
your VM would be killed uncleanly.
This journald log in my guest OS when I press the power-button on the
host:
..
Sep 16 16:19:27 KOM-AD01-PBX02 systemd[1]: Stopping ACPI event daemon...
Sep 16 16:19:27 KOM-AD01-PBX02 systemd[1]: Stopping User Manager for UID 1000...
Sep 16 16:19:27 KOM-AD01-PBX02 systemd[1]: Starting Unattended Upgrades Shutdown...
Sep 16 16:19:27 KOM-AD01-PBX02 snapd[2583]: 2016/09/16 16:19:27.289063 main.go:67:
Exiting on terminated signal.
Sep 16 16:19:27 KOM-AD01-PBX02 sshd[2940]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session closed for
user user
Sep 16 16:19:27 KOM-AD01-PBX02 su[3015]: pam_unix(su:session): session closed for user
root
Sep 16 16:19:27 KOM-AD01-PBX02 spice-vdagentd[2638]: vdagentd quiting, returning status
0
Sep 16 16:19:27 KOM-AD01-PBX02 sudo[3014]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session closed for
user root
Sep 16 16:19:27 KOM-AD01-PBX02 /usr/lib/snapd/snapd[2583]: main.go:67: Exiting on
terminated signal.
Sep 16 16:19:27 KOM-AD01-PBX02 sshd[2812]: Received signal 15; terminating.
..
Sep 16 16:19:28 KOM-AD01-PBX02 systemd[1]: Reached target Unmount All Filesystems.
Sep 16 16:19:28 KOM-AD01-PBX02 systemd[1]: Stopped target Local File Systems (Pre).
Sep 16 16:19:28 KOM-AD01-PBX02 systemd[1]: Stopping Monitoring of LVM2 mirrors, snapshots
etc. using dmeventd or progress polling...
Sep 16 16:19:28 KOM-AD01-PBX02 systemd[1]: Stopped Remount Root and Kernel File Systems.
Sep 16 16:19:28 KOM-AD01-PBX02 systemd[1]: Stopped Create Static Device Nodes in /dev.
Sep 16 16:19:28 KOM-AD01-PBX02 systemd[1]: Reached target Shutdown.
Sep 16 16:19:28 KOM-AD01-PBX02 systemd[1]: Reached target Final Step.
Sep 16 16:19:28 KOM-AD01-PBX02 systemd[1]: Starting Reboot...
Sep 16 16:19:28 KOM-AD01-PBX02 systemd[1]: Stopped Monitoring of LVM2 mirrors, snapshots
etc. using dmeventd or progress polling.
Sep 16 16:19:28 KOM-AD01-PBX02 systemd[1]: Shutting down.
Sep 16 16:19:28 KOM-AD01-PBX02 kernel: [drm:qxl_enc_commit [qxl]] *ERROR* head number too
large or missing monitors config: ffffc9000084a000, 0systemd-shutdown[1]: Sending SIGTERM
to remaining processes...
Sep 16 16:19:28 KOM-AD01-PBX02 systemd-journald[3342]: Journal stopped
-- Reboot --
Perhaps this feature of HP ProLiant DL 360 G5. I dont know.
If I test the unavailability of a host other ways that everything is going well.
I described my experience testing Fencing on practical examples on my blog for everyone
in Russian.
https://blog.it-kb.ru/2016/09/16/install-ovirt-4-0-part-4-about-ssh-soft-...
Thank you all very much for your participation and support.
Michal, what kind of scenario are you talking about?
PS: Excuse me for my bad English :)
16.09.2016, 16:37, "Simone Tiraboschi" <stirabos(a)redhat.com>:
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Michal Skrivanek <michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
>>> On 16 Sep 2016, at 15:31, aleksey.maksimov(a)it-kb.ru wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Simone.
>>> Exactly.
>>> Now I'll put the journald on the guest and try to understand how the
guest off.
>>
>> great. thanks
>>
>>> 16.09.2016, 16:25, "Simone Tiraboschi"
<stirabos(a)redhat.com>:
>>>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Michal Skrivanek
<michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 16 Sep 2016, at 15:05, Gianluca Cecchi
<gianluca.cecchi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Michal Skrivanek
<michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> no, that’s not how HA works today. When you log into a guest
and issue “shutdown” we do not restart the VM under your hands. We can argue how it should
or may work, but this is the defined behavior since the dawn of oVirt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AFAIK that's correct, we need to be able
>>>>>>>> shutdown HA VM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> without being it immediately restarted on different
host. We want to restart HA VM only if host, where HA VM is running, is non-responsive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> we try to restart it in all other cases other than user
initiated shutdown, e.g. a QEMU process crash on an otherwise-healthy host
>>>>>> Hi, just another question in case HA is not configured at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> by “HA configured” I expect you’re referring to the “Highly
Available” checkbox in Edit VM dialog.
>>>>>
>>>>>> If I run the "shutdown -h now" command on an host where
some VMs are running, what is the expected behavior?
>>>>>> Clean VM shutdown (with or without timeout in case it doesn't
complete?) or crash of their related QEMU processes?
>>>>>
>>>>> expectation is that you won’t do that. That’s why there is the
Maintenance host state.
>>>>> But if you do that regardless, with VMs running, all the processes
will be terminated in a regular system way, i.e. all QEMU processes get SIGTERM. From the
perspective of each guest this is not a clean shutdown and it would just get killed
>>>>
>>>> Aleksey is reporting that he started a shutdown on his host by power
management and the VM processes didn't get roughly killed but smoothly shut down and
so they didn't restarted regardless of their HA flag and so this thread.
>>
>> Gianluca talks about “shutdown -h now”, you talk about power management action,
those are two different things. The current idea is that systemd or some other component
just propagates the action to the guest and if that guest is configured to handle it as a
shutdown it starts it itself as well so it looks like a user-initiated one. Even though
this mostly makes sense it is not ok for current HA logic
>
> Aleksey, can you please also test this scenario?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> michal
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Gianluca
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