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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 11:02 AM,
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24/09/2017 =C3=A0 11:11, Yaniv Kaul a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0=
:<br </div
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class=3D"gmail_extra"><br
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 21, 2017 7:09
PM, "Nathana=C3=ABl Blanchet" <<a
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target=3D"_blank"
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<p>Hi Bernardo,</p
<p>Thanks, I knew this tool, but it is
based on sdk3 which will be removed in
the next version 4.2, so I'm looking
at sdk4 project. <br
</p
</div
</blockquote
</div </div </div
</div
</blockquote </span> So it
has recently changed! There was a
dedicated ticket in bugzilla about this and many
warnings intended to users, but nothing to tell sdk3
removal will be postponed...</div
</blockquote <div><br </div
<div>We decided to just let it stay, instead of forcing
everyone to convert. <br
</div </div </div
</div </blockquote Nice to hear such a new, community is the key, and ovirt
devs seem
to remember!<br <blockquote
type=3D"cite"
cite=3D"mid:CAJgorsZqxj9QEP8gCsRxH24KWYWPCfaNT3srR13uiVdrOZHJpQ@mail.gmai=
l.com" <div
dir=3D"ltr" <div
class=3D"gmail_extra" <div
class=3D"gmail_quote" <div>Note that
none of the new features since 4.0 are
supported in v3 API, it has far fewer examples,
documentation or features for the SDKs themselves (see[1]
for example).</div
</div </div </div
</blockquote So does that mean v3 API will be
kept far in the future? What about
derivated tools like ovirt-shell?<br
<blockquote type=3D"cite"
cite=3D"mid:CAJgorsZqxj9QEP8gCsRxH24KWYWPCfaNT3srR13uiVdrOZHJpQ@mail.gmai=
l.com" <div
dir=3D"ltr" <div
class=3D"gmail_extra" <div
class=3D"gmail_quote" <div><br </div
<div>From personal experience, I believe it is also easier
to develop with the new SDKs.</div
<div>Y.</div <div><br </div
<div>[1]=C2=A0<a
href=3D"https://ovirt.org/blog/2017/05/higher-performance=
-for-python-sdk/"
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">https://ovirt.org/blog/2017/05/h=
igher-performance-for-python-sdk/</a></div
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<blockquote type=3D"cite"
<div dir=3D"auto"
<div dir=3D"auto"><br
</div <div
dir=3D"auto">SDKv3 will not be removed in
4.2.</div
<div dir=3D"auto"><br
</div <div
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<p> </p
<p>You may want to adapt it?<br
</p
</div
</blockquote
</div
</div </div <div
dir=3D"auto"><br </div <div dir=3D"auto">Note
that you can gradually mov=
e
to v4. You can mix v4 API with v3 API and
convert function by function.=C2=A0</div <div
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21/09/2017 =C3=A0 17:08, Bernardo
Juanic=C3=B3 a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<br=
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type=3D"cite"
<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Nathanael,=C2=A0
<div><br
</div
<div>You may want to take a look
at this too:<br
<br
<a
href=3D"https://github.com/bj=
uanico/oVirtBackup"
target=3D"_blank"
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">http=
s://github.com/bjuanico/oV<wbr>irtBackup</a><br </div <div><br </div
<div>Regards,</div
<div><br
</div
<div>Bernardo</div
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Key</a><br
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ue">Skype:
mattraken</a><br </div </div </div </div <br <div
class=3D"gmail_quote">2017=
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11:00 GMT-03:00 Nathana=C3=AB=
l
Blanchet <span
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t;<a
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<p>Hello Victor,</p <p>I have
some questions
about your script<br </p <br <div
class=3D"gmail-m_6176317096150595339m_1249185257908678384m_-6967630627070=
421401m_7400844792036080505moz-cite-prefix">Le
07/07/2017 =C3=A0 23:40=
,
Victor Jos=C3=A9 Acosta
Dom=C3=ADnguez a =C3=A9=
crit=C2=A0:<br
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dir=3D"ltr"
<div>Hello everyone,
i created a python
tool to backup and
restore oVirt's
VMs.</div
<div><br
</div
<div>Also i created
a little "how to"
on my blog:</div
<div><a
href=3D"http://bl=
og.infratic.com/2017/07/create-ovirtrhevs-vm-backup/"
target=3D"_blank"
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">http://blog.infratic.com/2017/<w...
rtrhevs-vm-backup<wbr>/</a></div
</div
</blockquote
<ul
<li>Backup step is
okay, and I get a
usable qcow2 image
of the snapshot vm
in the backup vm. It
seems to be
compliant with the
official backup API,
except on the step
2.</li
</ul
<ol
<li><i>Take a snapshot
of the virtual
machine to be
backed up -
(existing oVirt
REST API
operation)</i></li
<li><i>Back up the
virtual machine
configuration at
the time of the
snapshot (the disk
configuration can
be backed up as
well if needed) -
(added capability
to oVirt as part
of the Backup API)<=
/i></li
</ol
<p><font color=3D"#ff0000=
">I
can't see any vm
configuration
anywhere but only
the qcow2 disk
itself</font></p <ol
<li><i>Attach the disk
snapshots that
were created in
(1) to the virtual
appliance for data
backup - (added
capability to
oVirt as part of
the Backup API)</i>=
</li <li>
<i><br
</i></li
<li><i>Detach the disk
snapshots that
were attached in
(4) from the
virtual appliance
- (added
capability to
oVirt as part of
the Backup API)</i>=
</li </ol <p>An
other case is when
the vm to backup has
more than one disk.
After I tested it, I
found that only one
qcow2 disk is saved on
the backup vm. This is
really a matter when
the original vm has
many disks part of
lvm, it makes the vm
restoration unusable.<b=
r </p <ul
<li>About vm
restoration, it
seems that you are
using the
upload_disk api, so
the disk is uploaded
to the pre-defined
storage domain, so
it is not a real vm
restoration.=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 <br
</li
</ul
<p>Do you plan to backup
and restore a full VM
(disks + vm
definition) in a next
release?<br </p <blockquote
type=3D"cite"=
<div
dir=3D"ltr"
<div><br
</div
<div>I hope it help
someone else</div
<div><br
</div
<div>Regards</div
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On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Nathana=C3=ABl Blanchet <blanchet@abe=
s.fr=20
<mailto:blanchet@abes.fr>> wrote:
Le 24/09/2017 =C3=A0 11:11, Yaniv Kaul a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
> On Sep 21, 2017 7:09 PM,
"Nathana=C3=ABl Blanchet" <blanchet(a)abes.=
fr
> <mailto:blanchet@abes.fr>> wrote:
> Hi Bernardo,
> Thanks, I knew this tool, but it is based on sdk3
which will
> be removed in the next version 4.2, so I'm looking at sdk4
> project.
So it has recently changed! There was a dedicated ticket
in
bugzilla about this and many warnings intended to users, but
nothing to tell sdk3 removal will be postponed...
We decided to just let it stay, instead of forcing everyone to convert.
Nice to
hear such a new, community is the key, and ovirt devs seem to=20
remember!
Note that none of the new features since 4.0 are supported in v3
API,=20
it has far fewer examples, documentation or features for the SDKs=20
themselves (see[1] for example).
So does that mean v3 API will be kept far in the
future? What about=20
derivated tools like ovirt-shell?
From personal experience, I believe it is also easier to develop with=20
the new SDKs.
Y.
[1] https://ovirt.org/blog/2017/05/higher-performance-for-python-sdk/
> SDKv3 will not be removed in 4.2.
> You may want to adapt it?
> Note that you can gradually
move to v4. You can mix v4 API with
> v3 API and convert function by function.
> Y.
> Le 21/09/2017 =C3=A0
17:08, Bernardo Juanic=C3=B3 a =C3=A9crit=
=C2=A0:
>> Hi Nathanael,
> >> You may want to take a look at this too:
> >> https://github.com/bjuanico/oVirtBackup
>> <https://github.com/bjuanico/oVirtBackup > >> Regards,
> >> Bernardo
> >> PGP Key
>> <http://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=3Dget&search=3D0x695E5BCE34=
263F5B>>
Skype: mattraken
> >> 2017-09-21 11:00 GMT-03:00 Nathana=C3=ABl
Blanchet
>> <blanchet(a)abes.fr <mailto:blanchet@abes.fr>>:
> >> Hello Victor,
> >> I have some questions about your script
> > >> Le 07/07/2017
=C3=A0 23:40, Victor Jos=C3=A9 Acosta Dom=C3=
=ADnguez a
>> =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
>>> Hello everyone, i created a python tool to backup and
>>> restore oVirt's VMs.
>> >>> Also i
created a little "how to" on my blog:
>>> http://blog.infratic.com/2017/07/create-ovirtrhevs-vm-ba=
ckup/
ackup/> >>
* Backup step is okay, and I get a usable qcow2 image
>> of the snapshot vm in the backup vm. It seems to be
>> compliant with the official backup API, except on
>> the step 2.
> >> 1. /Take a snapshot of the virtual
machine to be backed
>> up - (existing oVirt REST API operation)/
>> 2. /Back up the virtual machine configuration at the
>> time of the snapshot (the disk configuration can be
>> backed up as well if needed) - (added capability to
>> oVirt as part of the Backup API)/
> >> I can't see any vm configuration
anywhere but only the
>> qcow2 disk itself
> >> 1. /Attach the disk snapshots that were
created in (1)
>> to the virtual appliance for data backup - (added
>> capability to oVirt as part of the Backup API)/
>> 2. /
>> /
>> 3. /Detach the disk snapshots that were attached in (4)
>> from the virtual appliance - (added capability to
>> oVirt as part of the Backup API)/
> >> An other case is when the vm to backup has
more than one
>> disk. After I tested it, I found that only one qcow2
>> disk is saved on the backup vm. This is really a matter
>> when the original vm has many disks part of lvm, it
>> makes the vm restoration unusable.
> >> * About vm restoration, it seems that
you are using
>> the upload_disk api, so the disk is uploaded to the
>> pre-defined storage domain, so it is not a real vm
>> restoration.
> >> Do you plan to backup and restore a full
VM (disks + vm
>> definition) in a next release?
> >>
>>> I hope it help someone else
>> >>> Regards
>> >>> Victor
Acosta
>> >> >>
>> >>>
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Supervision r=C3=A9seau
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227 avenue Professeur-Jean-Louis-Viala
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Supervision r=C3=A9seau
P=C3=B4le Infrastrutures Informatiques
227 avenue Professeur-Jean-Louis-Viala
34193 MONTPELLIER CEDEX 5 =09
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