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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Maziere Aubry"
<kevin.maziere(a)alterway.fr>
To: "Antoni Segura Puimedon" <asegurap(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "Michael Tsirkin" <mtsirkin(a)redhat.com>, "Dor Laor"
<dlaor(a)redhat.com>, users(a)ovirt.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 3:02:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Users] Question about network card order
The mac adress are unknown until the creation of the VM, so udev
won't help here :(
But after the creation of the VM and before the first run you have the opti=
on to edit/view those MAC addresses.=20
Give whatever you want before the first run.=20
2012/10/3 Antoni Segura Puimedon < asegurap(a)redhat.com >
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> > From: "Kevin Maziere Aubry" < kevin.maziere(a)alterway.fr >
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> > To: "Igor Lvovsky" < ilvovsky(a)redhat.com >
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> > Cc: "Dor Laor" < dlaor(a)redhat.com >, "Michael
Tsirkin" <
> > mtsirkin(a)redhat.com >, users(a)ovirt.org
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> > Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 8:35:04 AM
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> > Subject: Re: [Users] Question about network card order
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> >
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> >
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> > Thanks for your reply.
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > 2012/10/3 Igor Lvovsky < ilvovsky(a)redhat.com >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > ----- Original Message -----
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> > > From: "Kevin Maziere Aubry" < kevin.maziere(a)alterway.fr >
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> > > To: users(a)ovirt.org
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> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 9:58:44 AM
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> > > Subject: [Users] Question about network card order
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> > >
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> > >
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> > > Hello
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> > >
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> > >
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> > > My first email on the mailing, I hope the first one of a longue
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> > > serie.
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> > >
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> >
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> > Welcome to community :)
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> >
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> >
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> > >
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> > > The email concerns a Network Card order issue for which I like
> > > to
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> > > report a have your advises.
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> > >
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> > >
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> > > I've made a template which contains 2 network cards, Each one
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> > > bridge
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> > > on different vlan network.
=20
> > > When I create a VM from this template, the network card mac
> > > address
=20
> > > assignation is random... so that by default my fedora assign
> > > eth0
=20
> > > to
=20
> > > the smallest mac address, and so on for eth1/eth2 ...
=20
> > >
=20
> > >
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> > > But no way to define network card order in template, so that
=20
> > > sometime
=20
> > > the smallest mac address is on eth0, sometime on eth1 (and in
> > > fact
=20
> > > more often on eth1), sometime my VM works, sometime I have to
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> > > destroy and recreate network interfaces.
=20
> > >
=20
> > >
=20
> >
=20
> > Unfortunately it's a known issue that related mostly to guest
> > kernel
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> > rather than RHEV-M.
=20
> > This is not related to order of NICs during VM start, because
> > RHEV-M
=20
> > keep the MAC assignment
=20
> > and even PCI address assignment same over VM reboots.
=20
> >
=20
> > The real reason hidden somewhere deep in kernel/udev behaviour.
=20
> > We need to understand why 2 NICs with same MAC addresses and same
> > PCI
=20
> > addresses may get different names (eth0/eth1)
=20
> > over machine reboot.
=20
> >
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> > Michael, any ideas?
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> >
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> >
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> > > Is there a workaround or anything else ?
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> > >
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> >
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> > No, I am not aware of any workaround
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> Wouldn't it be possible to write some matching rules in:
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> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
=20
> for your template so you would have it consistent. Mind that
you
> should
=20
> not rename to the kernel eth namespace.
=20
> Best,
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> Toni
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> >
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> >
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> > Regards,
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> > Igor
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> >
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> >
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> > >
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> > > Thanks
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> > >
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> > >
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> > > K=C3=A9vin
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> > >
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> > >
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> >
--
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> > >
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> > > Kevin Mazi=C3=A8re
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> > > Responsable Infrastructure
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> > > T=C3=A9l : +33 (0)1 41 16 38 41
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> > > Mob : +33 (0)7 62 55 57 05
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> > Kevin Mazi=C3=A8re
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> > Responsable Infrastructure
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> > Alter Way =E2=80=93 Hosting
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> > 1 rue Royal - 227 Bureaux de la Colline
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> > 92213 Saint-Cloud Cedex
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> > T=C3=A9l : +33 (0)1 41 16 38 41
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> > Mob : +33 (0)7 62 55 57 05
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> >
http://www.alterway.fr
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> > _______________________________________________
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> > Users mailing list
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> > Users(a)ovirt.org
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http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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--
Kevin Mazi=C3=A8re
Responsable Infrastructure
Alter Way =E2=80=93 Hosting
1 rue Royal - 227 Bureaux de la Colline
92213 Saint-Cloud Cedex
T=C3=A9l : +33 (0)1 41 16 38 41
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nt-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From:
</b>"Kevin M=
aziere Aubry" &lt;kevin.maziere(a)alterway.fr&gt;<br><b>To:
</b>"Antoni Segur=
a Puimedon" &lt;asegurap(a)redhat.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:
</b>"Michael Tsirkin" <=
;mtsirkin(a)redhat.com&gt;, "Dor Laor" &lt;dlaor(a)redhat.com&gt;,
users(a)ovirt.=
org<br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, October 3, 2012 3:02:47
PM<br><b>Subject: </=
b>Re: [Users] Question about network card order<br><br>The mac adress are
u=
nknown until the creation of the VM, so udev won't help here :(<br></blockq=
uote><br>But after the creation of the VM and before the first run you have=
the option to edit/view those MAC addresses.<br>Give whatever you want bef=
ore the first run. <br><br><blockquote style=3D"border-left:2px solid
rgb(1=
6, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;=
font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-ser=
if;font-size:12pt;"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2012/10/3
Antoni Segura =
Puimedon <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a
href=3D"mailto:asegurap@redhat.com" targe=
t=3D"_blank">asegurap(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: "Kevin Maziere Aubry" <<a
href=3D"mailto:kevin.maziere@alterw=
ay.fr"
target=3D"_blank">kevin.maziere(a)alterway.fr</a>&gt;<br>
</div><div><div class=3D"h5">> To: "Igor
Lvovsky" <<a href=3D"mailto:=
ilvovsky(a)redhat.com"
target=3D"_blank">ilvovsky(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;<br>
> Cc: "Dor Laor" <<a href=3D"mailto:dlaor@redhat.com"
target=3D"_blan=
k">dlaor(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;, "Michael Tsirkin" <<a
href=3D"mailto:mtsirk=
in(a)redhat.com" target=3D"_blank">mtsirkin(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;,
<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:users@ovirt.org"
target=3D"_blank">users(a)ovirt.org</a><br>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 8:35:04 AM<br>
> Subject: Re: [Users] Question about network card order<br>
><br>
><br>
> Thanks for your reply.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> 2012/10/3 Igor Lvovsky < <a
href=3D"mailto:ilvovsky@redhat.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">ilvovsky(a)redhat.com</a> ><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> > From: "Kevin Maziere Aubry" < <a
href=3D"mailto:kevin.maziere@=
alterway.fr" target=3D"_blank">kevin.maziere(a)alterway.fr</a>
><br>
> > To: <a href=3D"mailto:users@ovirt.org"
target=3D"_blank">users@ov=
irt.org</a><br>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 9:58:44 AM<br>
> > Subject: [Users] Question about network card order<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Hello<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > My first email on the mailing, I hope the first one of a longue<b=
r>
> > serie.<br>
> ><br>
><br>
> Welcome to community :)<br>
><br>
><br>
> ><br>
> > The email concerns a Network Card order issue for which I like to=
<br>
> > report a have your advises.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > I've made a template which contains 2 network cards, Each
one<br>
> > bridge<br>
> > on different vlan network.<br>
> > When I create a VM from this template, the network card mac addre=
ss<br>
> > assignation is random... so that by default my fedora assign eth0=
<br>
> > to<br>
> > the smallest mac address, and so on for eth1/eth2 ...<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > But no way to define network card order in template, so that<br>
> > sometime<br>
> > the smallest mac address is on eth0, sometime on eth1 (and in fac=
t<br>
> > more often on eth1), sometime my VM works, sometime I have to<br>
> > destroy and recreate network interfaces.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
><br>
> Unfortunately it's a known issue that related mostly to guest kernel<b=
r>
> rather than RHEV-M.<br>
> This is not related to order of NICs during VM start, because RHEV-M<b=
r>
> keep the MAC assignment<br>
> and even PCI address assignment same over VM reboots.<br>
><br>
> The real reason hidden somewhere deep in kernel/udev behaviour.<br>
> We need to understand why 2 NICs with same MAC addresses and same PCI<=
br>
> addresses may get different names (eth0/eth1)<br>
> over machine reboot.<br>
><br>
> Michael, any ideas?<br>
><br>
><br>
> > Is there a workaround or anything else ?<br>
> ><br>
><br>
> No, I am not aware of any workaround<br>
<br>
</div></div>Wouldn't it be possible to write some matching rules
in:<br>
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules<br>
<br>
for your template so you would have it consistent. Mind that you should<br>
not rename to the kernel eth namespace.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Toni<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
><br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> Igor<br>
><br>
><br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > K=C3=A9vin<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> ><br>
> > Kevin Mazi=C3=A8re<br>
> > Responsable Infrastructure<br>
> > Alter Way =E2=80=93 Hosting<br>
> > 1 rue Royal - 227 Bureaux de la Colline<br>
> > 92213 Saint-Cloud Cedex<br>
> > T=C3=A9l : <a
href=3D"tel:%2B33%20%280%291%2041%2016%2038%2041" t=
arget=3D"_blank">+33 (0)1 41 16 38 41</a><br>
> > Mob : <a href=3D"tel:%2B33%20%280%297%2062%2055%2057%2005"
target=
=3D"_blank">+33 (0)7 62 55 57 05</a><br>
> > <a href=3D"http://www.alterway.fr"
target=3D"_blank">http://www.a=
lterway.fr</a><br>
> ><br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > Users mailing list<br>
> > <a href=3D"mailto:Users@ovirt.org"
target=3D"_blank">Users(a)ovirt.=
org</a><br>
> > <a
href=3D"http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users"
target=
=3D"_blank">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a><br>
> ><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
><br>
> Kevin Mazi=C3=A8re<br>
> Responsable Infrastructure<br>
> Alter Way =E2=80=93 Hosting<br>
> 1 rue Royal - 227 Bureaux de la Colline<br>
> 92213 Saint-Cloud Cedex<br>
> T=C3=A9l : <a href=3D"tel:%2B33%20%280%291%2041%2016%2038%2041"
target=
=3D"_blank">+33 (0)1 41 16 38 41</a><br>
> Mob : <a href=3D"tel:%2B33%20%280%297%2062%2055%2057%2005"
target=3D"_=
blank">+33 (0)7 62 55 57 05</a><br>
> <a href=3D"http://www.alterway.fr"
target=3D"_blank">http://www.alterw=
ay.fr</a><br>
><br>
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> Users mailing list<br>
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lank">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a><...
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clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>=
<br> <span style=3D"color:;font-weight:bold"
lang=3D"EN-US">Kevin Mazi=C3=
=A8re<br>
</span><span style=3D"color:"
lang=3D"EN-US">Responsable Infrastructure=
<br>
</span><span style=3D"color:" lang=3D"EN-US">Alter
Way
=E2=80=93 Hosting<br>
</span>
<span style=3D"color:">1 rue Royal - 227 Bureaux de la
Colline</span><=
br>
<span style=3D"color:">92213 Saint-Cloud Cedex</span><br>
<span style=3D"color:;font-weight:bold">T=C3=A9l :</span>
<span style=3D"color:"> +33 (0)1 41 16 38 41 </span><span
style=3D"colo=
r:;font-weight:bold"><br></span>
<span style=3D"color:;font-weight:bold">Mob :</span>
<span style=3D"color:"> +33 (0)7 62 55 57 05 </span><span
style=3D"colo=
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