5:41 p.m.
Hi All,
I'm new to oVirt and have set up a basic cluster of an engine and five
hosts, using the quick start and default settings as much as possible. I
confess it's taken some heavy flailing to get this far, the docs all
seem to be for the previous versions and the latest greatest appears to
be significantly different. I now have a working data center / cluster
/hosts and a bouncing baby ubuntu server LTS VM.
My VM is getting a DHCP address and nameservers from the data center the
hosts sit in. But from the VM I can only ping the IP of the host the VM
is on. Can't reach the gateway of the local subnet, or anything in the
real world.
Am I missing some step? the "Quick Start" doesn't say much beyond "The
ovirtmgmt Management network is used for this document, however if you
wish to create new logical networks see the oVirt Administration Guide."
The admin guide has information on creating new networks but I'm not
spotting the parts I need to connect my VM to the real world. Or how to
attach another network to the host if all NICs are in use.
Short Version:
* Is some change needed to allow VMs on the ovirtmgmt network to connect
to the real world? If so, what?
* Is the ovirtmgmt network not meant for "commodity" use, and instead I
should have some other network? If so, how do I connect that to the real
LAN/WAN, and how do I replace the ovirtmgmt with it? (my hosts each only
have two NICs bonded in a pair).
Hope to hear from you,
Randy in Seattle
11:30 a.m.
Hi Again,
I'm not sure if my first post yesterday went through, I can see it in
the list archives but I didn't receive a copy and I've confirmed my list
settings include me getting a copy of my own posts. In any case, nobody
has replied and unless I'm the only guy that needs my VMs to talk to the
rest of the world I assume someone else knows how to fix this.
I've read and re-read the Quick Start Guide, Installation Guide and
Administration Guide even though they appear to describe an earlier
version. If I've overlooked the answer and this is an RTFM issue, feel
free to tell me so but I'd be grateful if you'd also tell me exactly
which part of the FM to read.
Again, my VM is getting an IP address and nameserver settings from the
DHCP service running on the server room subnet the oVirt host sits in.
From the Vm, I can ping the static IP of the host the vm is on, but not
anything else on the server room subnet including the other hosts or the
subnet's gateway. The "route" command sits for about 10 seconds before
completing but eventually shows two rows, one for default with the
correct local gateway and one for the local subnet. All appears to be
well on the VM, the problem appears to be the host is not passing traffic.
The dialogue for the interface on the host shows some logos on the
ovirtmgmt network that's assigned to it, including a green "VM" tile. Is
this the "outside" role for commodity connections to a VM?
I've also spent some time rooting around different parts of the admin
interface and found some settings under the ovirtmgmt network's vNIC
Profiles for the "Network Filter." Tried changing that to "allow IPv4"
and then to "No Network Filter" with no change.
I hope to hear from you soon.
randy in Seattle
5:01 p.m.
And Hi Again Again,
I still haven't received any copies of the first two emails I sent to
this list. Is this list moderated, or do new members require some
approval before their posts will be forwarded (but will still make it to
the archives)? If so, should I have gotten some reply explaining this
when I subscribed?
I can ping the VM from the host. Can also SSH from the host to the VM.
Oddly, I can SSH from the VM to the host but it's flaky.
After some time in the docs it appears the network I want is the "VM
Network," and that the ovirtmgmt network is this by default. This option
is checked for my ovirtmgmt network. So why can't my VM see the real world?
Hoping to hear from you.
5:05 p.m.
I have been seeing your messages, and watching since it could be useful, and I had
unanswered questions about networking.
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Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] newbie questions on networking
And Hi Again Again,
I still haven't received any copies of the first two emails I sent to this list. Is
this list moderated, or do new members require some approval before their posts will be
forwarded (but will still make it to the archives)? If so, should I have gotten some reply
explaining this when I subscribed?
I can ping the VM from the host. Can also SSH from the host to the VM.
Oddly, I can SSH from the VM to the host but it's flaky.
After some time in the docs it appears the network I want is the "VM Network,"
and that the ovirtmgmt network is this by default. This option is checked for my ovirtmgmt
network. So why can't my VM see the real world?
Hoping to hear from you.
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4:44 a.m.
On Thu, 3 May 2018 09:30:17 -0700
"Rue, Randy" <randyrue(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Again,
I'm not sure if my first post yesterday went through, I can see it in
the list archives but I didn't receive a copy and I've confirmed my
list settings include me getting a copy of my own posts. In any case,
nobody has replied and unless I'm the only guy that needs my VMs to
talk to the rest of the world I assume someone else knows how to fix
this.
I've read and re-read the Quick Start Guide, Installation Guide and
Administration Guide even though they appear to describe an earlier
version. If I've overlooked the answer and this is an RTFM issue,
feel free to tell me so but I'd be grateful if you'd also tell me
exactly which part of the FM to read.
Again, my VM is getting an IP address and nameserver settings from
the DHCP service running on the server room subnet the oVirt host
sits in.
This looks like the oVirt setup is fine.
From the Vm, I can ping the static IP of the host the vm is
on, but not anything else on the server room subnet including the
other hosts or the subnet's gateway. The "route" command sits for
about 10 seconds before completing but eventually shows two rows, one
Maybe the route command tries to resolve hostnames using an unreachable
DNS server?
for default with the correct local gateway and one for the local
subnet. All appears to be well on the VM, the problem appears to be
the host is not passing traffic.
Maybe the host passes the traffic, but the network equipment outside
the host prevents IP spoofing of the host?
Can you check if the VM traffic is pushed out of the host's interface,
e.g. by tcpdump on the hosts outgoing interface?
To check if the problem is the network between the hosts, you can check
connectivity between two VMs on two different host connected via
an external network of the ovirt-provider-ovn. This way the VM
traffic will be tunneled in the physical network.
The dialogue for the interface on the host shows some logos on the
ovirtmgmt network that's assigned to it, including a green "VM" tile.
Is this the "outside" role for commodity connections to a VM?
I've also spent some time rooting around different parts of the admin
interface and found some settings under the ovirtmgmt network's vNIC
Profiles for the "Network Filter." Tried changing that to "allow
IPv4" and then to "No Network Filter" with no change.
I hope to hear from you soon.
randy in Seattle
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1:43 p.m.
I've sort of had some progress. On Friday I went to the dentist and when
I returned, my VM could ping google.
I don't believe I changed anything Friday morning but I confess I've
been flailing on this for so long I'm not keeping detailed notes on what
I change. And as I'm evaluating oVirt as a possible replacement for our
production xencenter/xenserver systems, I need to know what was wrong
and what fixed it.
I reinstalled the ovirt-engine box and two hosts and started again. The
only change I've made beyond the default is to remove the
no-mac-spoofing filter from the ovirtmgmt vNIC profile so there are no
filters applied. At this point I'm back to an ubuntu LTS server VM that
again, is getting a DHCP IP address, nameserver entries in resolv.conf,
and "route" shows correct local routing for addresses on the same subnet
and the correct gateway for the rest of the world. The VM is even
registering its hostname in our DNS correctly. And I can ping the static
IP of the host the VM is on, but not the subnet gateway or anything in
the real world.
Two things I haven't mentioned that I haven't seen anything in the docs
about. My ovirt-engine box is on a different subnet than my hosts, and
my hosts are using a bonded pair of physical interfaces (XOR mode) for
their single LAN connection. Did I miss something in the docs where
these are a problem?
Dominik, to answer your thoughts earlier:
* name resolution isn't happening at all, the VM can't reach a DNS server
* I don't manage the data center network gear but am pretty sure there's
no configuration that blocks traffic. This is supported by my temporary
success on Friday. And we also have other virtualization hosts (VMWare
hosts) in the same subnet, that forward traffic to/from their VMs just fine.
* tcpdump on the host's ovirtmgmt interface is pretty noisy but if I
grep for the ubuntu DDNS name I see a slew of ARP requests. I can see
pings to the host's IP address, and attempts to SSH from the VM to its
host. Any attempt to touch anything past the host shows nothing on any
interface in tcpdump, not a ping to the subnet gateway, not an SSH
attempt, not a DNS query or a ping to known IP address.
* hot damn, here's a clue! I can ping other oVirt hosts! (by IP only) I
also tried pinging the ovirt-engine box, wasn't surprised when that
failed as the VM would need to reach the gateway to get to the different
subnet.
So it appears that even though I've set up the ovirtmgmt network using
defaults, and it has the "VM Network" option checked, my logical network
is still set to only allow traffic between the VMs and hosts.
What am I missing?
-randy
3:58 p.m.
On Mon, 7 May 2018 11:43:51 -0700
"Rue, Randy" <randyrue(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I've sort of had some progress. On Friday I went to the dentist
and
when I returned, my VM could ping google.
I don't believe I changed anything Friday morning but I confess I've
been flailing on this for so long I'm not keeping detailed notes on
what I change. And as I'm evaluating oVirt as a possible replacement
for our production xencenter/xenserver systems, I need to know what
was wrong and what fixed it.
I reinstalled the ovirt-engine box and two hosts and started again.
The only change I've made beyond the default is to remove the
no-mac-spoofing filter from the ovirtmgmt vNIC profile so there are
no filters applied. At this point I'm back to an ubuntu LTS server VM
that again, is getting a DHCP IP address, nameserver entries in
resolv.conf, and "route" shows correct local routing for addresses on
the same subnet and the correct gateway for the rest of the world.
The VM is even registering its hostname in our DNS correctly. And I
can ping the static IP of the host the VM is on, but not the subnet
gateway or anything in the real world.
Can you ping the DHCP server?
Two things I haven't mentioned that I haven't seen anything
in the
docs about. My ovirt-engine box is on a different subnet than my
hosts, and my hosts are using a bonded pair of physical interfaces
(XOR mode) for their single LAN connection.
Was the bond created before adding the hosts to oVirt, or after adding
the hosts via oVirt web UI?
If the switch requires configuration for the bond, is this applied?
Can you check if the VM can ping the getaway, if you use a simple
Ethernet connection instead of the bond?
Did I miss something in the docs where these are a problem?
Dominik, to answer your thoughts earlier:
* name resolution isn't happening at all, the VM can't reach a DNS
server
* I don't manage the data center network gear but am pretty sure
there's no configuration that blocks traffic. This is supported by my
temporary success on Friday. And we also have other virtualization
hosts (VMWare hosts) in the same subnet, that forward traffic to/from
their VMs just fine.
OK, L3 seems to work now sometimes.
* tcpdump on the host's ovirtmgmt interface is pretty noisy but
if I
grep for the ubuntu DDNS name I see a slew of ARP requests. I can see
pings to the host's IP address, and attempts to SSH from the VM to
its host. Any attempt to touch anything past the host shows nothing
on any interface in tcpdump, not a ping to the subnet gateway, not an
SSH attempt, not a DNS query or a ping to known IP address.
The outgoing ARP requests looks like the traffic of the VM is forwarded
to ovirtmgmt.
Do you see ARP reply to the VM?
Maybe the VM fails to get the MAC address of the gateway.
* hot damn, here's a clue! I can ping other oVirt hosts! (by IP
only)
I also tried pinging the ovirt-engine box, wasn't surprised when that
failed as the VM would need to reach the gateway to get to the
different subnet.
So it appears that even though I've set up the ovirtmgmt network
using defaults, and it has the "VM Network" option checked, my
logical network is still set to only allow traffic between the VMs
and hosts.
What am I missing?
-randy
4:03 p.m.
Randy this flaky layer two problem reeks of a possible MTU situation between your oVirt
switches and your physical switches.
On May 7, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Dominik Holler <dholler(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 7 May 2018 11:43:51 -0700
"Rue, Randy" <randyrue(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I've sort of had some progress. On Friday I went to the dentist and
> when I returned, my VM could ping google.
>
> I don't believe I changed anything Friday morning but I confess I've
> been flailing on this for so long I'm not keeping detailed notes on
> what I change. And as I'm evaluating oVirt as a possible replacement
> for our production xencenter/xenserver systems, I need to know what
> was wrong and what fixed it.
>
> I reinstalled the ovirt-engine box and two hosts and started again.
> The only change I've made beyond the default is to remove the
> no-mac-spoofing filter from the ovirtmgmt vNIC profile so there are
> no filters applied. At this point I'm back to an ubuntu LTS server VM
> that again, is getting a DHCP IP address, nameserver entries in
> resolv.conf, and "route" shows correct local routing for addresses on
> the same subnet and the correct gateway for the rest of the world.
> The VM is even registering its hostname in our DNS correctly. And I
> can ping the static IP of the host the VM is on, but not the subnet
> gateway or anything in the real world.
>
Can you ping the DHCP server?
> Two things I haven't mentioned that I haven't seen anything in the
> docs about. My ovirt-engine box is on a different subnet than my
> hosts, and my hosts are using a bonded pair of physical interfaces
> (XOR mode) for their single LAN connection.
Was the bond created before adding the hosts to oVirt, or after adding
the hosts via oVirt web UI?
If the switch requires configuration for the bond, is this applied?
Can you check if the VM can ping the getaway, if you use a simple
Ethernet connection instead of the bond?
> Did I miss something in the docs where these are a problem?
>
> Dominik, to answer your thoughts earlier:
>
> * name resolution isn't happening at all, the VM can't reach a DNS
> server
>
> * I don't manage the data center network gear but am pretty sure
> there's no configuration that blocks traffic. This is supported by my
> temporary success on Friday. And we also have other virtualization
> hosts (VMWare hosts) in the same subnet, that forward traffic to/from
> their VMs just fine.
>
OK, L3 seems to work now sometimes.
> * tcpdump on the host's ovirtmgmt interface is pretty noisy but if I
> grep for the ubuntu DDNS name I see a slew of ARP requests. I can see
> pings to the host's IP address, and attempts to SSH from the VM to
> its host. Any attempt to touch anything past the host shows nothing
> on any interface in tcpdump, not a ping to the subnet gateway, not an
> SSH attempt, not a DNS query or a ping to known IP address.
>
The outgoing ARP requests looks like the traffic of the VM is forwarded
to ovirtmgmt.
Do you see ARP reply to the VM?
Maybe the VM fails to get the MAC address of the gateway.
> * hot damn, here's a clue! I can ping other oVirt hosts! (by IP only)
> I also tried pinging the ovirt-engine box, wasn't surprised when that
> failed as the VM would need to reach the gateway to get to the
> different subnet.
>
> So it appears that even though I've set up the ovirtmgmt network
> using defaults, and it has the "VM Network" option checked, my
> logical network is still set to only allow traffic between the VMs
> and hosts.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> -randy
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5:45 p.m.
Looks like the physical interface on the host and the virtual interface
on the VM are both at the default 1500 MTU.
How can I determine the MTU setting for the physical switches without
admin access to them? Or do I need to ask the network team?
On 5/7/2018 2:03 PM, Clint Boggio wrote:
Randy this flaky layer two problem reeks of a possible MTU situation
between your oVirt switches and your physical switches.
> On May 7, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Dominik Holler <dholler(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 7 May 2018 11:43:51 -0700
> "Rue, Randy" <randyrue(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've sort of had some progress. On Friday I went to the dentist and
>> when I returned, my VM could ping google.
>>
>> I don't believe I changed anything Friday morning but I confess I've
>> been flailing on this for so long I'm not keeping detailed notes on
>> what I change. And as I'm evaluating oVirt as a possible replacement
>> for our production xencenter/xenserver systems, I need to know what
>> was wrong and what fixed it.
>>
>> I reinstalled the ovirt-engine box and two hosts and started again.
>> The only change I've made beyond the default is to remove the
>> no-mac-spoofing filter from the ovirtmgmt vNIC profile so there are
>> no filters applied. At this point I'm back to an ubuntu LTS server VM
>> that again, is getting a DHCP IP address, nameserver entries in
>> resolv.conf, and "route" shows correct local routing for addresses on
>> the same subnet and the correct gateway for the rest of the world.
>> The VM is even registering its hostname in our DNS correctly. And I
>> can ping the static IP of the host the VM is on, but not the subnet
>> gateway or anything in the real world.
>>
> Can you ping the DHCP server?
>
>> Two things I haven't mentioned that I haven't seen anything in the
>> docs about. My ovirt-engine box is on a different subnet than my
>> hosts, and my hosts are using a bonded pair of physical interfaces
>> (XOR mode) for their single LAN connection.
> Was the bond created before adding the hosts to oVirt, or after adding
> the hosts via oVirt web UI?
> If the switch requires configuration for the bond, is this applied?
> Can you check if the VM can ping the getaway, if you use a simple
> Ethernet connection instead of the bond?
>
>> Did I miss something in the docs where these are a problem?
>>
>> Dominik, to answer your thoughts earlier:
>>
>> * name resolution isn't happening at all, the VM can't reach a DNS
>> server
>>
>> * I don't manage the data center network gear but am pretty sure
>> there's no configuration that blocks traffic. This is supported by my
>> temporary success on Friday. And we also have other virtualization
>> hosts (VMWare hosts) in the same subnet, that forward traffic to/from
>> their VMs just fine.
>>
> OK, L3 seems to work now sometimes.
>
>> * tcpdump on the host's ovirtmgmt interface is pretty noisy but if I
>> grep for the ubuntu DDNS name I see a slew of ARP requests. I can see
>> pings to the host's IP address, and attempts to SSH from the VM to
>> its host. Any attempt to touch anything past the host shows nothing
>> on any interface in tcpdump, not a ping to the subnet gateway, not an
>> SSH attempt, not a DNS query or a ping to known IP address.
>>
> The outgoing ARP requests looks like the traffic of the VM is forwarded
> to ovirtmgmt.
> Do you see ARP reply to the VM?
> Maybe the VM fails to get the MAC address of the gateway.
>
>> * hot damn, here's a clue! I can ping other oVirt hosts! (by IP only)
>> I also tried pinging the ovirt-engine box, wasn't surprised when that
>> failed as the VM would need to reach the gateway to get to the
>> different subnet.
>>
>> So it appears that even though I've set up the ovirtmgmt network
>> using defaults, and it has the "VM Network" option checked, my
>> logical network is still set to only allow traffic between the VMs
>> and hosts.
>>
>> What am I missing?
>>
>> -randy
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6:03 p.m.
You should query the network to team for sure.
You should also use use the ping command (from the VM) to troubleshoot possible MTU
problems getting to your infrastructure DNS servers and gateway.
# ping -M do -s 1472 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
Starting at 1472 and “walking” the -s up and down will help you determine your situation.
If at all possible, you could take the production switches and gateway out of the equation
with your own isolated gear.
On May 7, 2018, at 5:45 PM, Rue, Randy <randyrue(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Looks like the physical interface on the host and the virtual interface on the VM are
both at the default 1500 MTU.
How can I determine the MTU setting for the physical switches without admin access to
them? Or do I need to ask the network team?
> On 5/7/2018 2:03 PM, Clint Boggio wrote:
> Randy this flaky layer two problem reeks of a possible MTU situation between your
oVirt switches and your physical switches.
>
>> On May 7, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Dominik Holler <dholler(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 7 May 2018 11:43:51 -0700
>> "Rue, Randy" <randyrue(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've sort of had some progress. On Friday I went to the dentist and
>>> when I returned, my VM could ping google.
>>>
>>> I don't believe I changed anything Friday morning but I confess I've
>>> been flailing on this for so long I'm not keeping detailed notes on
>>> what I change. And as I'm evaluating oVirt as a possible replacement
>>> for our production xencenter/xenserver systems, I need to know what
>>> was wrong and what fixed it.
>>>
>>> I reinstalled the ovirt-engine box and two hosts and started again.
>>> The only change I've made beyond the default is to remove the
>>> no-mac-spoofing filter from the ovirtmgmt vNIC profile so there are
>>> no filters applied. At this point I'm back to an ubuntu LTS server VM
>>> that again, is getting a DHCP IP address, nameserver entries in
>>> resolv.conf, and "route" shows correct local routing for addresses
on
>>> the same subnet and the correct gateway for the rest of the world.
>>> The VM is even registering its hostname in our DNS correctly. And I
>>> can ping the static IP of the host the VM is on, but not the subnet
>>> gateway or anything in the real world.
>>>
>> Can you ping the DHCP server?
>>
>>> Two things I haven't mentioned that I haven't seen anything in the
>>> docs about. My ovirt-engine box is on a different subnet than my
>>> hosts, and my hosts are using a bonded pair of physical interfaces
>>> (XOR mode) for their single LAN connection.
>> Was the bond created before adding the hosts to oVirt, or after adding
>> the hosts via oVirt web UI?
>> If the switch requires configuration for the bond, is this applied?
>> Can you check if the VM can ping the getaway, if you use a simple
>> Ethernet connection instead of the bond?
>>
>>> Did I miss something in the docs where these are a problem?
>>>
>>> Dominik, to answer your thoughts earlier:
>>>
>>> * name resolution isn't happening at all, the VM can't reach a DNS
>>> server
>>>
>>> * I don't manage the data center network gear but am pretty sure
>>> there's no configuration that blocks traffic. This is supported by my
>>> temporary success on Friday. And we also have other virtualization
>>> hosts (VMWare hosts) in the same subnet, that forward traffic to/from
>>> their VMs just fine.
>>>
>> OK, L3 seems to work now sometimes.
>>
>>> * tcpdump on the host's ovirtmgmt interface is pretty noisy but if I
>>> grep for the ubuntu DDNS name I see a slew of ARP requests. I can see
>>> pings to the host's IP address, and attempts to SSH from the VM to
>>> its host. Any attempt to touch anything past the host shows nothing
>>> on any interface in tcpdump, not a ping to the subnet gateway, not an
>>> SSH attempt, not a DNS query or a ping to known IP address.
>>>
>> The outgoing ARP requests looks like the traffic of the VM is forwarded
>> to ovirtmgmt.
>> Do you see ARP reply to the VM?
>> Maybe the VM fails to get the MAC address of the gateway.
>>
>>> * hot damn, here's a clue! I can ping other oVirt hosts! (by IP only)
>>> I also tried pinging the ovirt-engine box, wasn't surprised when that
>>> failed as the VM would need to reach the gateway to get to the
>>> different subnet.
>>>
>>> So it appears that even though I've set up the ovirtmgmt network
>>> using defaults, and it has the "VM Network" option checked, my
>>> logical network is still set to only allow traffic between the VMs
>>> and hosts.
>>>
>>> What am I missing?
>>>
>>> -randy
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>>
5:44 p.m.
Was the bond created before adding the hosts to oVirt, or after adding
the hosts via oVirt web UI?
If the switch requires configuration for the bond, is this applied?
Can you check if the VM can ping the getaway, if you use a simple Ethernet connection
instead of the >bond?
Should any of this be done before adding the host to oVirt?
1:42 a.m.
On Mon, 7 May 2018 22:44:08 +0000
Justin Zygmont <jzygmont(a)proofpoint.com> wrote:
>Was the bond created before adding the hosts to oVirt, or after
>adding the hosts via oVirt web UI? If the switch requires
>configuration for the bond, is this applied? Can you check if the VM
>can ping the getaway, if you use a simple Ethernet connection
>instead of the >bond?
Should any of this be done before adding the host to oVirt?
It is recommended to do as much as possible configuration via oVirt.
If the configuration via oVirt is not possible, the network
configuration has to be done before adding the host to oVirt.
5:59 p.m.
I installed the ovirt node to standalone interfaces, then created the
bond via the ovirt-node webui at port 9090, before adding the node to
the cluster.
The DHCP server happens to be in the same subnet but no, I can't ping it
as I can't ping anything beyond the physical interfaces of the hosts.
I've added a third host and can also ping that from the VM on node 1.
For a hoot also spun up a new CentOS VM in case this was an OS problem.
Same results. And when the two VMs are on different hosts, they can't
ping each other. When I migrate one so they're both on the same host,
they can each ping each other.
On 5/7/2018 1:58 PM, Dominik Holler wrote:
On Mon, 7 May 2018 11:43:51 -0700
"Rue, Randy" <randyrue(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I've sort of had some progress. On Friday I went to the dentist and
> when I returned, my VM could ping google.
>
> I don't believe I changed anything Friday morning but I confess I've
> been flailing on this for so long I'm not keeping detailed notes on
> what I change. And as I'm evaluating oVirt as a possible replacement
> for our production xencenter/xenserver systems, I need to know what
> was wrong and what fixed it.
>
> I reinstalled the ovirt-engine box and two hosts and started again.
> The only change I've made beyond the default is to remove the
> no-mac-spoofing filter from the ovirtmgmt vNIC profile so there are
> no filters applied. At this point I'm back to an ubuntu LTS server VM
> that again, is getting a DHCP IP address, nameserver entries in
> resolv.conf, and "route" shows correct local routing for addresses on
> the same subnet and the correct gateway for the rest of the world.
> The VM is even registering its hostname in our DNS correctly. And I
> can ping the static IP of the host the VM is on, but not the subnet
> gateway or anything in the real world.
>
Can you ping the DHCP server?
> Two things I haven't mentioned that I haven't seen anything in the
> docs about. My ovirt-engine box is on a different subnet than my
> hosts, and my hosts are using a bonded pair of physical interfaces
> (XOR mode) for their single LAN connection.
Was the bond created before adding the hosts to oVirt, or after adding
the hosts via oVirt web UI?
If the switch requires configuration for the bond, is this applied?
Can you check if the VM can ping the getaway, if you use a simple
Ethernet connection instead of the bond?
> Did I miss something in the docs where these are a problem?
>
> Dominik, to answer your thoughts earlier:
>
> * name resolution isn't happening at all, the VM can't reach a DNS
> server
>
> * I don't manage the data center network gear but am pretty sure
> there's no configuration that blocks traffic. This is supported by my
> temporary success on Friday. And we also have other virtualization
> hosts (VMWare hosts) in the same subnet, that forward traffic to/from
> their VMs just fine.
>
OK, L3 seems to work now sometimes.
> * tcpdump on the host's ovirtmgmt interface is pretty noisy but if I
> grep for the ubuntu DDNS name I see a slew of ARP requests. I can see
> pings to the host's IP address, and attempts to SSH from the VM to
> its host. Any attempt to touch anything past the host shows nothing
> on any interface in tcpdump, not a ping to the subnet gateway, not an
> SSH attempt, not a DNS query or a ping to known IP address.
>
The outgoing ARP requests looks like the traffic of the VM is forwarded
to ovirtmgmt.
Do you see ARP reply to the VM?
Maybe the VM fails to get the MAC address of the gateway.
> * hot damn, here's a clue! I can ping other oVirt hosts! (by IP only)
> I also tried pinging the ovirt-engine box, wasn't surprised when that
> failed as the VM would need to reach the gateway to get to the
> different subnet.
>
> So it appears that even though I've set up the ovirtmgmt network
> using defaults, and it has the "VM Network" option checked, my
> logical network is still set to only allow traffic between the VMs
> and hosts.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> -randy
2:02 a.m.
On Mon, 7 May 2018 15:59:54 -0700
"Rue, Randy" <randyrue(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I installed the ovirt node to standalone interfaces, then created the
bond via the ovirt-node webui at port 9090, before adding the node to
the cluster.
I recommend to use oVirt to configure the network interfaces of the
host, whenever possible. So the bond of the host should be configured by
oVirt, but maybe there is an additional configuration on the switch
required, too.
The troubleshooting can be done step by step, to find the action which
breaks the network connection.
1. After the ovirt-node is installed, the network connection of
the host should be verified.
2. After the host is added to oVirt, the network connection of
the host should be verified again.
3. The network connection of a VM running on the host should be
verified.
4. The bond should be configured by oVirt, and the network connection
of the host should be verified again. Maybe there is additional
configuration on the switch required, too.
5. The network connection of a VM running on the host with bond should
be verified, again.
In which step the network connection breaks?
The DHCP server happens to be in the same subnet but no, I can't
ping
it as I can't ping anything beyond the physical interfaces of the
hosts.
Interesting, so DHCP is working for the VM, but not a ping to the DHCP
server?
I've added a third host and can also ping that from the VM on
node 1.
For a hoot also spun up a new CentOS VM in case this was an OS
problem. Same results. And when the two VMs are on different hosts,
they can't ping each other. When I migrate one so they're both on the
same host, they can each ping each other.
On 5/7/2018 1:58 PM, Dominik Holler wrote:
> On Mon, 7 May 2018 11:43:51 -0700
> "Rue, Randy" <randyrue(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've sort of had some progress. On Friday I went to the dentist and
>> when I returned, my VM could ping google.
>>
>> I don't believe I changed anything Friday morning but I confess
>> I've been flailing on this for so long I'm not keeping detailed
>> notes on what I change. And as I'm evaluating oVirt as a possible
>> replacement for our production xencenter/xenserver systems, I need
>> to know what was wrong and what fixed it.
>>
>> I reinstalled the ovirt-engine box and two hosts and started again.
>> The only change I've made beyond the default is to remove the
>> no-mac-spoofing filter from the ovirtmgmt vNIC profile so there are
>> no filters applied. At this point I'm back to an ubuntu LTS server
>> VM that again, is getting a DHCP IP address, nameserver entries in
>> resolv.conf, and "route" shows correct local routing for addresses
>> on the same subnet and the correct gateway for the rest of the
>> world. The VM is even registering its hostname in our DNS
>> correctly. And I can ping the static IP of the host the VM is on,
>> but not the subnet gateway or anything in the real world.
>>
> Can you ping the DHCP server?
>
>> Two things I haven't mentioned that I haven't seen anything in the
>> docs about. My ovirt-engine box is on a different subnet than my
>> hosts, and my hosts are using a bonded pair of physical interfaces
>> (XOR mode) for their single LAN connection.
> Was the bond created before adding the hosts to oVirt, or after
> adding the hosts via oVirt web UI?
> If the switch requires configuration for the bond, is this applied?
> Can you check if the VM can ping the getaway, if you use a simple
> Ethernet connection instead of the bond?
>
>> Did I miss something in the docs where these are a problem?
>>
>> Dominik, to answer your thoughts earlier:
>>
>> * name resolution isn't happening at all, the VM can't reach a DNS
>> server
>>
>> * I don't manage the data center network gear but am pretty sure
>> there's no configuration that blocks traffic. This is supported by
>> my temporary success on Friday. And we also have other
>> virtualization hosts (VMWare hosts) in the same subnet, that
>> forward traffic to/from their VMs just fine.
>>
> OK, L3 seems to work now sometimes.
>
>> * tcpdump on the host's ovirtmgmt interface is pretty noisy but if
>> I grep for the ubuntu DDNS name I see a slew of ARP requests. I
>> can see pings to the host's IP address, and attempts to SSH from
>> the VM to its host. Any attempt to touch anything past the host
>> shows nothing on any interface in tcpdump, not a ping to the
>> subnet gateway, not an SSH attempt, not a DNS query or a ping to
>> known IP address.
> The outgoing ARP requests looks like the traffic of the VM is
> forwarded to ovirtmgmt.
> Do you see ARP reply to the VM?
> Maybe the VM fails to get the MAC address of the gateway.
>
>> * hot damn, here's a clue! I can ping other oVirt hosts! (by IP
>> only) I also tried pinging the ovirt-engine box, wasn't surprised
>> when that failed as the VM would need to reach the gateway to get
>> to the different subnet.
>>
>> So it appears that even though I've set up the ovirtmgmt network
>> using defaults, and it has the "VM Network" option checked, my
>> logical network is still set to only allow traffic between the VMs
>> and hosts.
>>
>> What am I missing?
>>
>> -randy
2:15 p.m.
Getting weirder.
I reinstalled a third node from scratch with no bonding and my VM works
fine.
To answer an earlier question, we're not configuring any bonding on the
data center switches so I've stuck to bonding modes like round robin,
active/stand-by, and XOR. I've mostly been using XOR.
Where it gets weird is if I switch the bonding mode from XOR to
active/stand-by, a VM on that host can see the real world. And if I
switch it from active/stand-by back to XOR, it still works.
I'm currently running three nodes, all with bonded interfaces in XOR
mode, and all is well. I wish I knew why.
Randy
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