On 2017-05-29 01:22, Luca 'remix_tj' Lorenzetto wrote: Thanks, Luca. That is what I will do.

For now, it is just for me to learn. If I like the solution, I will then build a POC with "real" hardware (which I already have). Then I can deploy at my colo for clients. On 2017-05-29 04:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 10:21 AM, <ovirt(a)fateknollogee.com&gt; wrote: Sure, I was just wondering why you were running in nested virtualization :-) Being your use case a "playground" environment, I can suggest you to have a look at Lago http://lago.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ and at Lago demo at https://github.com/lago-project/lago-demo to help you preparing an isolated test environment for your learning. -- SANDRO BONAZZOLA ASSOCIATE MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA ENG VIRTUALIZATION R&D Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/> <https://red.ht/sig> TRIED. TESTED. TRUSTED. <https://redhat.com/trusted>

Sandro, If & when one decides to "graduate" & use real hardware, what is the install process? Is the gluster part still automated or that has to be done manually? Another question, what type of use cases & jobs is oVirt being deployed in & how are people getting tech support? On 2017-05-29 04:33, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:

I want to test oVirt with real hardware, no more nested VMs. 3 hosts, each vm will be Fedora (maybe CentOS, I prefer Fedora) What is the install process? On 2017-05-30 02:42, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 10:13 PM, <ovirt(a)fateknollogee.com&gt; wrote: Please note Fedora support within oVirt project is a best-effort task. There's no testing of oVirt on Fedora done by the core development team. That said, I would be happy if you contribute fedora testing :-) I'm not sure to understand what you're looking into now since you talk about real hardware and VMs in the same sentence. Suggested minimal deployment is 3 real hardware hosts as hypervisor nodes and hosted engine with hyperconverged deployment. You can use oVirt Node iso in order to do the whole deployment using cockpit. -- SANDRO BONAZZOLA ASSOCIATE MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA ENG VIRTUALIZATION R&D Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/> <https://red.ht/sig> TRIED. TESTED. TRUSTED. <https://redhat.com/trusted>

Hi, Hosted engine runs as VM on one of the hosts. But not necessarily on the first one (it can even move if it decides so). Well you can always run the engine on a physical node directly too. The question is why would you want that when hosted engine gives you fail-over and reliability features. So I would install Node on all four hosts, enable all of them for hosted engine and enable three of them for Gluster if hyperconverged is what your want. Best regards -- Martin Sivak SLA / oVirt On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 10:09 AM, <ovirt(a)fateknollogee.com&gt; wrote: > Sandro, thx for the reply. > Once I get comfortable with oVirt + CentOS, then I'll go & use Fedora 25/26 > and contribute! > > > > > On 2017-06-06 03:29, Sandro Bonazzola wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 10:13 PM, <ovirt(a)fateknollogee.com&gt; wrote: >> >>> I want to test oVirt with real hardware, no more nested VMs. >>> 3 hosts, each vm will be Fedora (maybe CentOS, I prefer Fedora) >> >> >> Please note Fedora support within oVirt project is a best-effort task. >> There's no testing of oVirt on Fedora done by the core development >> team. >> That said, I would be happy if you contribute fedora testing :-) >> >> I'm not sure to understand what you're looking into now since you talk >> about real hardware and VMs in the same sentence. >> Suggested minimal deployment is 3 real hardware hosts as hypervisor >> nodes and hosted engine with hyperconverged deployment. >> You can use oVirt Node iso in order to do the whole deployment using >> cockpit. >> >>> What is the install process? >>> >>> On 2017-05-30 02:42, Sandro Bonazzola wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 5:18 AM, <ovirt(a)fateknollogee.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>> Sandro, >>> If & when one decides to "graduate" & use real hardware, what is the >>> install process? >>> >>> The install process depends on how you want to design your lab . >>> You can have a small deployment with just 3 hosts in hyperconverged >>> setup or a large datacenter with 200 hypervisors and one or more >>> dedicated SAN for the storage. >>> If you go with an hyperconverged setup, you can install oVirt Node >>> on >>> 3 hosts and then on one of them use cockpit to deploy gluster and >>> hosted engine on top of it in hyperconverged mode. >>> >>> You can find an installation guide here: >>> http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/install-guide/Installation_Guide/ >>> [1] >>> >>> Is the gluster part still automated or that has to be done >>> manually? >>> >>> If you go with hyperconverged mode it's now automated. You can find >>> more info here: >>> >> >> http://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/gluster/gdeploy-... >>> >>> [2] >>> Sahina, please ensure above link is updated. I see it shows the >>> feature still in WIP while it's been released. >>> >>> Another question, what type of use cases & jobs is oVirt being >>> deployed in & how are people getting tech support? >>> >>> About use cases for oVirt you can find some examples here: >>> http://www.ovirt.org/community/user-stories/users-and-providers/ [3] >>> If you want dedicated support, I would recommend to get a Red Hat >>> Virtualization (which is oVirt with technical support and some >>> additions) subscription getting Red Hat support. >>> Another place to get support if you stay with oVirt is the >>> community: >>> this mailing list, the IRC channel and social media, have a look >>> here >>> for other contacts: http://www.ovirt.org/community/ [4] >>> >>> On 2017-05-29 04:33, Sandro Bonazzola wrote: >>> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 10:21 AM, <ovirt(a)fateknollogee.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>> I assume people are using oVirt in production? >>> >>> Sure, I was just wondering why you were running in nested >>> virtualization :-) >>> Being your use case a "playground" environment, I can suggest you to >>> have a look at Lago http://lago.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ [5] [1] >>> and at Lago demo at https://github.com/lago-project/lago-demo [6] >>> [2] >>> to help you preparing an isolated test environment for your >>> learning. >>> >>> On 2017-05-29 04:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote: >>> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 12:12 AM, <ovirt(a)fateknollogee.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>> >> >> http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-with-nested-kvm/ >>> >>> [7] >>> [3] >>> [1] >>> [1] >>> >>> I have one CentOS7 host (physical) & 3x oVirt nodes 4.1.2 (these are >>> vm's). >>> >>> Hi, can you please share the use case for this setup? >>> >>> I have installed vdsm-hook-nestedvm on the host. >>> >>> Should I install vdsm-hook-macspoof on the 3x node vm's? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Users mailing list >>> Users(a)ovirt.org >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users [8] [4] [2] [2] >>> >>> -- >>> >>> SANDRO BONAZZOLA >>> >>> ASSOCIATE MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA ENG VIRTUALIZATION R&D >>> >>> Red Hat EMEA [3] >>> >>> [4] >>> >>> TRIED. TESTED. TRUSTED. [5] >>> >>> Links: >>> ------ >>> [1] >>> >>> >> >> http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-with-nested-kvm/ >>> >>> [7] >>> [3] >>> [1] >>> [2] http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users [8] [4] [2] >>> [3] https://www.redhat.com/ >>> [4] https://red.ht/sig >>> [5] https://redhat.com/trusted >>> >>> -- >>> >>> SANDRO BONAZZOLA >>> >>> ASSOCIATE MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA ENG VIRTUALIZATION R&D >>> >>> Red Hat EMEA [3] >>> >>> [4] >>> >>> TRIED. TESTED. TRUSTED. [5] >>> >>> Links: >>> ------ >>> [1] >>> >>> >> >> http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-with-nested-kvm/ >>> >>> [7] >>> [3] >>> [2] http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users [8] [4] >>> [3] https://www.redhat.com/ >>> [4] https://red.ht/sig >>> [5] https://redhat.com/trusted >>> >>> -- >>> >>> SANDRO BONAZZOLA >>> >>> ASSOCIATE MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA ENG VIRTUALIZATION R&D >>> >>> Red Hat EMEA [5] >>> >>> [6] >>> >>> TRIED. TESTED. TRUSTED. [7] >>> >>> Links: >>> ------ >>> [1] http://lago.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ [5] >>> [2] https://github.com/lago-project/lago-demo [6] >>> [3] >>> >> >> http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-with-nested-kvm/ >>> >>> [7] >>> [4] http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users [8] >>> [5] https://www.redhat.com/ >>> [6] https://red.ht/sig >>> [7] https://redhat.com/trusted >> >> >> -- >> >> SANDRO BONAZZOLA >> >> ASSOCIATE MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA ENG VIRTUALIZATION R&D >> >> Red Hat EMEA [9] >> >> [10] >> >> TRIED. TESTED. TRUSTED. [11] >> >> >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/install-guide/Installation_Guide/ >> [2] >> >> http://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/gluster/gdeploy-... >> [3] http://www.ovirt.org/community/user-stories/users-and-providers/ >> [4] http://www.ovirt.org/community/ >> [5] http://lago.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ >> [6] https://github.com/lago-project/lago-demo >> [7] >> http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-with-nested-kvm/ >> [8] http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> [9] https://www.redhat.com/ >> [10] https://red.ht/sig >> [11] https://redhat.com/trusted > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

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