Re: [ovirt-users] Ovirt and Gluster

Wednesday, 29 July 2015

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For RHEV I don=27t have an answer=2E

But for anyone that cares=2C we=27ve been running oVirt 3=2E5 and GlusterFS=

3=2E6 for about three months in production now=2E We run a Gluster cluster=

and a seperate virtualization hosts cluster=2E The Gluster cluster is
installed=2C configured and managed seperately from oVirt as there is no
way to have a seperate storage network in oVirt 3=2E5

There have been no specific incompatibility issues=2C so we are very
happy=2E But as we don=27t use every feature mileage may vary=2E

The best thing is we we=27re able to kick our Corosync/Pacemaker/DRBD HA
iSCSI nightmare to the curb =3B-=29

We do recommend using only replica 3 and monitoring your environment and
glusterfs logfiles extensively=2E

Kind regards=2C

Jorick Astrego

On 07/29/2015 02=3A07 AM=2C John Gardeniers wrote=3A
=3E What makes me say that RHEV and the community version of Gluster are
=3E incompatible is a message from Red Hat saying so=2E
=3E
=3E Of particular note=2C the RHSS version of Gluster uses afr-v1=2C wherea=
s
=3E the community version uses afr-v2=2E Exactly how the mismatch will
=3E manifest itself or what problems may result has not been described=2E=

=3E
=3E
=3E On 29/07/15 09=3A31=2C Matthew Lagoe wrote=3A
=3E=3E
=3E=3E Sorry my mistake I ment RHEV
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=3E=3E
=3E=3E *From=3A*John Gardeniers =5Bmailto=3Ajgardeniers=40objectmastery=2Ec=
om=5D
=3E=3E *Sent=3A* Tuesday=2C July 28=2C 2015 04=3A30 PM
=3E=3E *To=3A* Matthew Lagoe=3B =27Donny Davis=27
=3E=3E *Cc=3A* =27users=27
=3E=3E *Subject=3A* Re=3A =5Bovirt-users=5D Ovirt and Gluster
=3E=3E
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=3E=3E
=3E=3E Seriously=3F I very explicitly said RHEV=2C not Ovirt=2E
=3E=3E
=3E=3E On 29/07/15 09=3A10=2C Matthew Lagoe wrote=3A
=3E=3E
=3E=3E     Ive never heard that ovirt isn=92t compatible with the community=

=3E=3E     version of gluster=2E What is it that makes you say that=3F
=3E=3E
=3E=3E     =20
=3E=3E
=3E=3E     *From=3A*users-bounces=40ovirt=2Eorg =3Cmailto=3Ausers-bounces=
=40ovirt=2Eorg=3E
=3E=3E     =5Bmailto=3Ausers-bounces=40ovirt=2Eorg=5D *On Behalf Of *John G=
ardeniers
=3E=3E     *Sent=3A* Tuesday=2C July 28=2C 2015 04=3A06 PM
=3E=3E     *To=3A* Donny Davis
=3E=3E     *Cc=3A* users
=3E=3E     *Subject=3A* Re=3A =5Bovirt-users=5D Ovirt and Gluster
=3E=3E
=3E=3E     =20
=3E=3E
=3E=3E     No=2C not yet=2E I figured that I should be able to get better=

=3E=3E     answers here=2C as the Gluster list has been particularly poor f=
or
=3E=3E     answers to Ovirt related questions=2E
=3E=3E
=3E=3E
=3E=3E     On 29/07/15 08=3A55=2C Donny Davis wrote=3A
=3E=3E
=3E=3E         One more question
=3E=3E         Have you asked anyone on the gluster list=3F
=3E=3E
=3E=3E         On Jul 28=2C 2015 5=3A32 PM=2C =22John Gardeniers=22
=3E=3E         =3Cjgardeniers=40objectmastery=2Ecom
=3E=3E         =3Cmailto=3Ajgardeniers=40objectmastery=2Ecom=3E=3E wrote=3A=

=3E=3E
=3E=3E         The =22feature=22 I require is solid compatibility between O=
virt
=3E=3E         and Gluster=2E We currently use RHEV and now learn that it i=
s
=3E=3E         inherently=2C and possibly quite deliberately=2C incompatibl=
e
=3E=3E         with the community versions of Gluster=2E
=3E=3E
=3E=3E
=3E=3E         On 29/07/15 08=3A18=2C Donny Davis wrote=3A
=3E=3E
=3E=3E             What feature is it that you need for your production
=3E=3E             environment=3F I would be looking for !required! feature=
s
=3E=3E             for the environment=2C and then which versions are the m=
ost
=3E=3E             mature=2E
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=3E=3E             =20
=3E=3E
=3E=3E             =20
=3E=3E
=3E=3E             =20
=3E=3E
=3E=3E             On Tue=2C Jul 28=2C 2015 at 5=3A07 PM=2C John Gardeniers=

=3E=3E             =3Cjgardeniers=40objectmastery=2Ecom
=3E=3E             =3Cmailto=3Ajgardeniers=40objectmastery=2Ecom=3E=3E wrot=
e=3A
=3E=3E
=3E=3E             That =22popular Linux company=22 uses versions with redu=
ced
=3E=3E             features and functionality=2C which have no direct
=3E=3E             comparison to the community versions=2E
=3E=3E
=3E=3E
=3E=3E
=3E=3E
=3E=3E             On 29/07/15 08=3A04=2C Donny Davis wrote=3A
=3E=3E
=3E=3E                 I would stick with the same versions I see a popular=

=3E=3E                 Linux company putting out=2E
=3E=3E
=3E=3E                 On Jul 27=2C 2015 6=3A15 PM=2C =22John Gardeniers=22=

=3E=3E                 =3Cjgardeniers=40objectmastery=2Ecom
=3E=3E                 =3Cmailto=3Ajgardeniers=40objectmastery=2Ecom=3E=3E=
 wrote=3A
=3E=3E
=3E=3E                 Hi All=2C
=3E=3E
=3E=3E                 What information is available regarding the
=3E=3E                 compatibility of Ovirt and Gluster=3F Is there a
=3E=3E                 combination known to be stable and if so=2C what are=

=3E=3E                 the relevant versions=3F I am asking with respect to=
 a
=3E=3E                 production system=2C not an experimental lab environ=
ment=2E
=3E=3E
=3E=3E                 regards=2C
=3E=3E                 John
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    GlusterFS 3=2E6 for about three months in production now=2E We run a
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    Gluster cluster is installed=2C configured and managed seperately from=

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    The best thing is we we=27re able to kick our Corosync/Pacemaker/DRBD=

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    We do recommend using only replica 3 and monitoring your environment
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              my mistake I ment RHEV=3Co=3Ap=3E=3C/o=3Ap=3E=3C/span=3E=3C/p=
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                  John Gardeniers =5B=3Ca moz-do-not-send=3D=22true=22
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                  =3Cb=3ESent=3A=3C/b=3E Tuesday=2C July 28=2C 2015 04=3A30=
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                  =3Cb=3ETo=3A=3C/b=3E Matthew Lagoe=3B =27Donny Davis=27=
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                  =3Cb=3ESubject=3A=3C/b=3E Re=3A =5Bovirt-users=5D Ovirt a=
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=22=3ESeriously=3F I
            very explicitly said RHEV=2C not Ovirt=2E=3Cbr=3E
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                never heard that ovirt isn=92t compatible with the
                community version of gluster=2E What is it that makes you=

                say that=3F=3C/span=3E=3Co=3Ap=3E=3C/o=3Ap=3E=3C/p=3E
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                    =3Cb=3EOn Behalf Of =3C/b=3EJohn Gardeniers=3Cbr=3E
                    =3Cb=3ESent=3A=3C/b=3E Tuesday=2C July 28=2C 2015 04=3A=
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                    =3Cb=3ETo=3A=3C/b=3E Donny Davis=3Cbr=3E
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                    =3Cb=3ESubject=3A=3C/b=3E Re=3A =5Bovirt-users=5D Ovirt=
 and Gluster=3C/span=3E=3Co=3Ap=3E=3C/o=3Ap=3E=3C/p=3E
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              yet=2E I figured that I should be able to get better answers=

              here=2C as the Gluster list has been particularly poor for
              answers to Ovirt related questions=2E=3Cbr=3E
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              =3Cp=3EOne more question=3Cbr=3E
                Have you asked anyone on the gluster list=3F=3Co=3Ap=3E=3C/=
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=2C =22John
                  Gardeniers=22 =26lt=3B=3Ca moz-do-not-send=3D=22true=22=

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2=2E0pt=22=3EThe
                    =22feature=22 I require is solid compatibility between=

                    Ovirt and Gluster=2E We currently use RHEV and now
                    learn that it is inherently=2C and possibly quite
                    deliberately=2C incompatible with the community
                    versions of Gluster=2E=3Cbr=3E
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onny Davis
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                    =3Cdiv=3E
                      =3Cp class=3D=22MsoNormal=22=3EWhat feature is it tha=
t you
                        need for your production environment=3F I would be=

                        looking for !required! features for the
                        environment=2C and then which versions are the
                        most mature=2E =3Co=3Ap=3E=3C/o=3Ap=3E=3C/p=3E
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                        =3Cp class=3D=22MsoNormal=22=3EOn Tue=2C Jul 28=2C=
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                          5=3A07 PM=2C John Gardeniers =26lt=3B=3Ca
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                          =3Cp class=3D=22MsoNormal=22=3EThat =22popular Li=
nux
                            company=22 uses versions with reduced features=

                            and functionality=2C which have no direct
                            comparison to the community versions=2E =3Co=3A=
p=3E=3C/o=3Ap=3E=3C/p=3E
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                                =3Cp=3EI would stick with the same versions=

                                  I see a popular Linux company putting
                                  out=2E =3Co=3Ap=3E=3C/o=3Ap=3E=3C/p=3E
                                =3Cdiv=3E
                                  =3Cp class=3D=22MsoNormal=22=3EOn Jul 27=
=2C 2015
                                    6=3A15 PM=2C =22John Gardeniers=22 =26l=
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                                    wrote=3A=3Co=3Ap=3E=3C/o=3Ap=3E=3C/p=3E=

                                  =3Cp class=3D=22MsoNormal=22=3EHi All=2C=
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                                    =3Cbr=3E
                                    What information is available
                                    regarding the compatibility of Ovirt
                                    and Gluster=3F Is there a combination=

                                    known to be stable and if so=2C what
                                    are the relevant versions=3F I am
                                    asking with respect to a production
                                    system=2C not an experimental lab
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