I do not know what happened to my other VMs. Two are important ns01 and ns02 which are my IDM cluster nodes with also plex and other utilities / services. Most of the rest are throw away VMs for testing / OCP /OKD I think I may have to redeploy... but concerns are 1) CentOS8 Streams has package conflicts with cockpit and ovirt https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1917011 2) I do have a backup.. but hoping the deployment could redeploy and use existing PostGres DB... and so save rebuild. I think I have a backup.. but it is weeks old.. and.. so lots of things changed. (need to automate backups to my NAS .. on todo list now). I think I will try to redeploy and see how it goes... Thanks for help.. I am sure this drama fest is not over. More to come.