On Dec 21, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Nicolas Ecarnot <nicolas@ecarnot.net> = wrote: =20 Hello, =20 Most of our virtual machines are Linux, but an increasing number of = windows VMs are being integrated into our oVirt DCs. =20 We bought tons of windows server licences, and successfully activated =
=20 Due to how Windows Product Activation is working, when a windows VM is = migrating from a host to another, this product activation is reset, = launching a 30 days countdown to auto-shutdown. =20 According to this old page : =20 = https://mazimi.wordpress.com/2007/07/11/getting-around-windows-activation-= when-virtualizing/ =20 and what I can read in microsoft's 2012 server documentations, I then = can re-activate it twice during the next 90 days. =20 Assuming I *want* to have *no* control upon the location of the VMs = amongst their hosts (I want them to fly freely, confident in the lovely = auto-balance scheduler), I understand all this is not the way to go. =20 At present, we have 2003, 2008 and 2012 server editions. the only things I can read about windows 2012 server is related to the = commercial aspects (standard licence =3D 2 VMs, datacenter licencce =3D = infinite # of VMs), but not about this Windows Product Activation =
=20 How do you deal with this? Is there a special licence type or something dedicated that would =
--Apple-Mail=_07CF79C9-3AC0-40AB-A55C-2683F34D68E3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Something is triggering the activation that windows is detecting as a = change in hardware. I=E2=80=99ve not had this problem on 2012 or past = versions, you=E2=80=99ll usually encounter it when changing the hardware = drivers (such as converting from physical to virtual). Generally you = want to install compatible drivers (like the ovirt windows guest tools). = A good practice though is to snapshot before you make a change such as = drivers in case you need to set the activation key. For Desktops in VDI when you use a gold image, you generally make a = snapshot before activation - see here for an answer - = https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/25c4c85c-c8a9-4316-8bfa-= d3b7848e6dc6/microsoft-vdi-collections-and-activation?forum=3Dwinserver8se= tup = <https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/25c4c85c-c8a9-4316-8bfa= -d3b7848e6dc6/microsoft-vdi-collections-and-activation?forum=3Dwinserver8s= etup> what kind of activation keys are you using? Do you have KMS server? Tom Gamull them. trouble. prevent such an uncomfortable situation? (Christmas is near, I favor = soft terms.)
=20 Regards. =20 --=20 Nicolas ECARNOT _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
--Apple-Mail=_07CF79C9-3AC0-40AB-A55C-2683F34D68E3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html = charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" = class=3D"">Something is triggering the activation that windows is = detecting as a change in hardware. I=E2=80=99ve not had this problem on = 2012 or past versions, you=E2=80=99ll usually encounter it when changing = the hardware drivers (such as converting from physical to virtual). = Generally you want to install compatible drivers (like the ovirt = windows guest tools). A good practice though is to snapshot before = you make a change such as drivers in case you need to set the activation = key.<div class=3D"">For Desktops in VDI when you use a gold image, you = generally make a snapshot before activation - see here for an answer = - <a = href=3D"https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/25c4c85c-c8a9-43= 16-8bfa-d3b7848e6dc6/microsoft-vdi-collections-and-activation?forum=3Dwins= erver8setup" = class=3D"">https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/25c4c85c-c8a9= -4316-8bfa-d3b7848e6dc6/microsoft-vdi-collections-and-activation?forum=3Dw= inserver8setup</a></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D"">what kind of activation keys are you using? Do you have = KMS server?</div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div= class=3D""><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; = font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" = class=3D""><span style=3D"color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: arial, = sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" = class=3D"">T</span><span style=3D"color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: = arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, = 255);" class=3D"">om Gamull</span></div> </div> <br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div = class=3D"">On Dec 21, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Nicolas Ecarnot <<a = href=3D"mailto:nicolas@ecarnot.net" class=3D"">nicolas@ecarnot.net</a>>= wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div = class=3D"">Hello,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Most of our virtual = machines are Linux, but an increasing number of windows VMs are being = integrated into our oVirt DCs.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">We bought = tons of windows server licences, and successfully activated them.<br = class=3D""><br class=3D"">Due to how Windows Product Activation is = working, when a windows VM is migrating from a host to another, this = product activation is reset, launching a 30 days countdown to = auto-shutdown.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">According to this old page = :<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><a = href=3D"https://mazimi.wordpress.com/2007/07/11/getting-around-windows-act= ivation-when-virtualizing/" = class=3D"">https://mazimi.wordpress.com/2007/07/11/getting-around-windows-= activation-when-virtualizing/</a><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">and what = I can read in microsoft's 2012 server documentations, I then can = re-activate it twice during the next 90 days.<br class=3D""><br = class=3D"">Assuming I *want* to have *no* control upon the location of = the VMs amongst their hosts (I want them to fly freely, confident in the = lovely auto-balance scheduler), I understand all this is not the way to = go.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">At present, we have 2003, 2008 and 2012 = server editions.<br class=3D"">the only things I can read about windows = 2012 server is related to the commercial aspects (standard licence =3D 2 = VMs, datacenter licencce =3D infinite # of VMs), but not about this = Windows Product Activation trouble.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">How do = you deal with this?<br class=3D"">Is there a special licence type or = something dedicated that would prevent such an uncomfortable situation? = (Christmas is near, I favor soft terms.)<br class=3D""><br = class=3D"">Regards.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">-- <br class=3D"">Nicolas= ECARNOT<br class=3D"">_______________________________________________<br = class=3D"">Users mailing list<br class=3D"">Users@ovirt.org<br = class=3D"">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users<br = class=3D""></div></div></blockquote></div><br = class=3D""></div></div></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_07CF79C9-3AC0-40AB-A55C-2683F34D68E3--