On 23/08/13 08:51, Karli Sjöberg wrote:
tor 2013-08-22 klockan 20:43 +0300 skrev Lior Vernia:
>
> On 22/08/13 20:04, Einav Cohen wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is about attempting to address the difficulty of finding the edit-action in
> > the Setup Host Network dialog, as documented in "Bug 984737 - usability:
webadmin
> > difficulty in assigning client ip, no gateway possible" in bugzilla.
> > We have a suggestion from Eldan (see attached
"HostSetupNetworks-HoverPopUp.png")
> > which was described in the BZ (comment #3) and seemed acceptable by the reporter
> > (comment #4), however IIUC - one of the main pain points described in the BZ was
> > the fact that the user could not find the option to Edit the connection
properties
> > since he was looking in the wrong place, and needed to hover on the correct
place,
> > in order to find that option.
> > So although the idea is somewhat helpful, my concern is that this solution is
not
> > enough (comment #5).
> >
> > Another proposal from Malini (comment #6) is to add an "actions"
drop-down menu in
> > the form of a small "gear" icon-button - see attached
"HostSetupNetworks-DropDownMenu.png".
> > This proposal addresses my concern, however I have a question about another
concern
> > with this solution:
> > would the actions-drop-down menu-items panel be revealed appear upon click or
upon
> > hover?
> >
> > if it will be upon hover, it might seem weird/be conflicted/be somewhat
confusing
> > with the hover functionality that reveals the logical-network details pop-up.
>
> If this proposal is accepted (see my comments below about both
> proposals), one solution might be to get rid of the network details
> tooltip. Most people probably don't use MTU,
Just a FYI there Lior; we do:) And when 10GbE becomes available, Jumbo
Frames is going to be required to use all that bandwidth. Otherwise you
are capped at about half(500MB/s as opposed to 1,2GB/s).
And is it at all helpful to see it in the Host Setup Networks context?
It is set in the DC context when adding or editing a network, to my
understanding it doesn't have much to do with a specific host.
I'm guessing the main reason it's there is to give people a shot at
guessing why their network appears out-of-sync, when it's caused by the
MTU being configured differently on the host, but I don't think that
would be easy to figure out anyway.
/Karli
> and the rest is just
> explaining the network role icons; so maybe not that useful.
>
> > if it will be upon click, it means that in order to edit a logical network, two
> > clicks will be required in order to get to the edit dialog, as opposed to one
click
> > in the current state and in Eldan's suggestion.
> > maybe having two clicks in order to get to the edit dialog is acceptable,
however
> > there may be some solutions for that:
> >
> > one possible solution would be to combine both attached suggestions, i.e. the
actions
> > within the hover pop-up, as well as the actions drop-down menu, however it means
that
> > there will be some redundancy of the actions availability.
>
> That sounds bad to me regardless of the other alternatives.
>
> > another possible solution is to keep only the gear + down-arrow icon (or maybe
only
> > the down-arrow icon), without the actual drop-down menu there, just in order to
indicate
> > that there are some options available in that area, and have Eldan's pop-up
appear when
> > hovering on that icon (or even on the entire logical-network area, as happens
today with
> > the current details pop-up)
> >
> > thoughts?
>
> I like the gear icon because it's noticeable and easily recognizable.
> However, keep in mind that bonds should also have the same icon to keep
> a consistent design. Now imagine a configuration with several bonds on
> the left-hand-side and quite a few networks on the right-hand-side; I'm
> no designer, but it could get cluttered with all those gear icons.
>
> It MIGHT be preferable to use the other design (tooltip with action bar)
> and risk the odd person not easily finding it (no disrespect intended,
> Jason). I have no idea, however, if it's gonna be just the odd person or
> most people. I'd love to hear others' opinions.
>
> >
> > ----
> > Regards,
> > Einav
> >
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