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On Dec 6, 2013, at 5:25 AM, Vinzenz Feenstra <vfeenstr(a)redhat.com> =
wrote:
I understand that you're disappointed and we're trying to
make our =
best to make the user experience better. You should be considering the =
age of the project and what we're actually already providing. Yes not =
everything is perfect, but we're working hard on improving it.
We're working in a collaborative way together with the community,
if =
you're missing something, there's always the possibility to help out.
=
Even if you're not a programmer you can help improving the experience.
Bob pretty much said it all for me already=85I=92m not so much as =
disappointed in ovirt development as I am the marketing of it. ovirt is =
being marketed as an ESXi replacement when it surely isn=92t. Probably =
90%+ of what ESXi is used for is virtualizing Windows. Give ovirt in =
it=92s current form to a typical Windows user and they=92ll self =
destruct.
The first issue with the agents as I can=92t even find any documentation =
on what agents really need installing, and what features I=92m getting =
with that agent!
Another thing is, I would think that Fedora would be integrated enough =
with ovirt that it would be able to automatically detect it=92s running =
on ovirt and install all the required agents automatically.
I forgot my number 5) BIOS needs to work like a standard PC BIOS (as =
does ESXi) in allowing you to press F8 to get a boot menu or F12 for =
network boot. This run once stuff is silly. It works fine the first =
time I create a VM as there=92s no bootable OS on the datastore, but if =
I need to re-PXE boot a VM, then I have to Run Once..OK, fine, but when =
the PXE completes it reboots, back into network boot, then I have to =
kill the VM and restart it normally. Under a PC (or ESXi) BIOS, I just =
hit F12, network boot, OS re-installs, then reboots normally. Much =
better user experience. I gave our Red Hat sales people feedback on =
this issue and was told it=92s not going to change.=20=
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after-white-space;"><br><div><div>On Dec 6, 2013, at 5:25 AM,
Vinzenz =
Feenstra <<a =
href=3D"mailto:vfeenstr@redhat.com">vfeenstr@redhat.com</a>> =
wrote:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div
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start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">I =
understand that you're disappointed and we're trying to make our best to =
make the user experience better. You should be considering the age of =
the project and what we're actually already providing. Yes not =
everything is perfect, but we're working hard on improving it.<br>We're =
working in a collaborative way together with the community, if you're =
missing something, there's always the possibility to help out. Even if =
you're not a programmer you can help improving the =
experience.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Bob
pretty much =
said it all for me already=85I=92m not so much as disappointed in ovirt =
development as I am the marketing of it. ovirt is being marketed =
as an ESXi replacement when it surely isn=92t. Probably 90%+ of =
what ESXi is used for is virtualizing Windows. Give ovirt in it=92s =
current form to a typical Windows user and they=92ll self =
destruct.</div><div><br></div><div>The first issue with the
agents as I =
can=92t even find any documentation on what agents really need =
installing, and what features I=92m getting with that =
agent!</div><div><br></div><div>Another thing is, I would
think that =
Fedora would be integrated enough with ovirt that it would be able to =
automatically detect it=92s running on ovirt and install all the =
required agents automatically.</div><div><br></div><div>I
forgot my =
number 5) BIOS needs to work like a standard PC BIOS (as does =
ESXi) in allowing you to press F8 to get a boot menu or F12 for network =
boot. This run once stuff is silly. It works fine the first =
time I create a VM as there=92s no bootable OS on the datastore, but if =
I need to re-PXE boot a VM, then I have to Run Once..OK, fine, but when =
the PXE completes it reboots, back into network boot, then I have to =
kill the VM and restart it normally. Under a PC (or ESXi) BIOS, I =
just hit F12, network boot, OS re-installs, then reboots normally. =
Much better user experience. I gave our Red Hat sales =
people feedback on this issue and was told it=92s not going to =
change. </div></div></body></html>=
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