9:49 a.m.
I first received news about the RHEV and OpenShift convergence from my Red Hat TAM at one
of my jobs.
However, a quick search on Google produces this:
https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/rhev, which says, in part:
Moving forward the RHV management feature set will be converged with OpenShift and
OpenShift Virtualization providing customers with requirements for containers and VMs a
migration path and a common platform for deploying and managing both.
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On Saturday, April 3, 2021 4:52 AM, Timo Veith <timo.veith(a)uni-tuebingen.de> wrote:
Dear David,
do you have a link to that anouncement which you have referenced
below "so the announcement of RHV's (commercial) demise was poor timing for me“
Cheers
Timo
> Am 02.04.2021 um 17:10 schrieb David White via Users
users(a)ovirt.org:
> I'm replying to Thomas's thread below, but am creating a new subject so as
not to hijack the original thread.
> I'm sure that this topic has come up before.
> I first joined this list last fall, when I began planning and testing with oVirt,
but as of the past few weeks, I'm paying closer attention to the mailing list now that
I'm actually using oVirt and am getting ready to deploy to a production environment.
> I'll also try to jump in and help other people as time permits and as my
experience grow.
> I echo Thomas's concerns here. While I'm thankful for Red Hat's gesture
to allow people to use up to 16 Red Hat installs at no charge, I'm concerned about the
longevity of oVirt, now that Red Hat is no longer going to support RHV going forward.
> What is the benefit to Red Hat / IBM of supporting this platform now that it is no
longer being commercialized as a Red Hat product? What is to prevent Red Hat from pulling
the plug on this project, similar to what happened to CentOS 8?
> As a user of oVirt (4.5, installed on Red Hat 8.3), how can I and others help to
contribute to the project to ensure its longevity? Or should I really just go find an
alternative in the future? (I had been planning to use oVirt for a while, and did some
testing last fall, so the announcement of RHV's (commercial) demise was poor timing
for me, because I don't have time to switch gears and change my plans to use something
else, like Proxmox or something.
> From what I've seen, this is a great product, and I guess I can understand Red
Hat's decision to pull the plug on the commercial project, now that OpenShift supports
full VMs. But my understanding is that OpenShift is a lot more complicated and requires
more resources. I really don't need a full kubernetes environment. I just need a
stable virtualization platform.
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> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 5:44 PM, Thomas Hoberg thomas(a)hoberg.net wrote:
>
> > I personally consider the fact that you gave up on
4.3/CentOS7 before CentOS 8 could have even been remotely reliable to run "a free
open-source virtualization solution for your entire enterprise", a rather violent
break of trust.
>
> > I understand Redhat's motivation with Python 2/3 etc.,
but users just don't. Please just try for a minute to view this from a user's
perspective.
>
> > With CentOS 7 supported until 2024, we naturally expect the
added value on top via oVirt to persist just as long.
>
> > And with CentOS 8 support lasting until the end of this
year, oVirt 4.4 can't be considered "Petrus" or a rock to build on.
>
> > Most of us run oVirt simply because we are most interested
in the VMs it runs (tenants paying rent).
>
> > We're not interested in keeping oVirt itself stable and
from failing after any update to the house of cards.
>
> > And yes, by now I am sorry to have chosen oVirt at all,
finding that 4.3 was abandonend before 4.4 or the CentOS 8 below was even stable and long
before the base OS ran out of support.
>
> > To the users out there oVirt is a platform, a tool, not a
means to itself.
>
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