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From: "Dan Kenigsberg" <danken@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> Cc: "Adam Litke" <agl@us.ibm.com>, "users" <users@ovirt.org>, "Gianluca Cecchi" <gianluca.cecchi@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:37:07 PM Subject: Re: [Users] host deploy and after reboot not responsive
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 05:16:09AM -0500, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
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From: "Dan Kenigsberg" <danken@redhat.com> To: "Gianluca Cecchi" <gianluca.cecchi@gmail.com> Cc: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com>, "Adam Litke" <agl@us.ibm.com>, "users" <users@ovirt.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:09:59 PM Subject: Re: [Users] host deploy and after reboot not responsive
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:57:03AM +0100, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
Gianluca, how about softening our ntpd requirement with something like http://gerrit.ovirt.org/11291 ?
Could you verify that it's working on your system?
Yes, I can test the change the service modification for vdsmd. I presume you want me to test it with default fedora 18, so chronyd enabled and ntpd disabled, correct?
Yes. though my patch may generate excessive noise, with its attempt to start two conflicting service. I suppose that we can/should "want" only chrony. But please provide your input.
We should use either, and default.
I'm not sure that I parse your English properly. Could you be more explict, preferably in a code review of http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/11291/ ?
I guess this will work, however this is primitive approach that a service should explicitly state the service provider in multi-option configuration. Let's assume there is yet another alternative to ntpd, then all services should have three alternatives... And what if I add my own alternative to my system? then I need to manually fix all services... as the authors of these were not aware of the new service I introduce. It is systemd I don't like...
On none systemd other distributions there is the concept of 'provides'. This means that a service like vdsmd can depend on timesync and a service like chronyd *AND* ntpd provide timesync. This is kind of logical name for service. Also other non systemd distributions provides the ability to script the dependencies.
I could not find either of he above methods in systemd documentation.