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I=E2=80=99d heard some contradictory information from various sources so was=
n=E2=80=99t quite sure what to believe.
I=E2=80=99ve already contributed one (tiny) documentation patch that was mer=
ged in yesterday - if we go ahead with ovirt from XenServer - I=E2=80=99ll d=
efinitely be contributing more, you have my word on that.
Thanks again for your time.
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On 10 Jan 2018, at 19:27, Yaniv Kaul <ykaul(a)redhat.com> wrote:
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> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 8:35 AM, Sam McLeod <mailinglists(a)smcleod.net> wr=
ote:
> I'm trying to find the stable / current oVirt-live ISO to
download.
>=20
> According to the official documentation, it looks like there is only the l=
egacy 4.1 ISO, or nightly / unstable builds of 4.2(.2?)?
>=20
> SRC: https://www.ovirt.org/download/ovirt-live/
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I'm hoping we have deprecated it. For demo purposes, you could set up ovir=
t-system-tests[1]. For an all-in-one you could either install the Engine and=
the hypervisor on the same physical host, or a self-hosted-engine with a si=
ngle physical node.
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>=20
> ---
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> Alternatively, if one is to deploy the 'self-hosted-engine' on top of Cen=
tOS 7.4, the documentation doesn't make it clear what you should vs
shouldn'=
t setup on the host prior to deploying the hosted engine.
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> For example, some big questions pop up around networking, e.g.:
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> - Should I be setting those up during CentOS's install using the installe=
r (which I believe configures them with Network Manager), or should I be set=
ting up the ifcfg files manually by hand without touching Network Manager vi=
a the server's remote console after the install has finished?
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Either is fine.
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>=20
> - Is it OK for me to setup my first two NICs in a mode 1 (A/P) or 4 (XOR)=
bond (these are connected to a 'dumb' switch and provide internet access an=
d later will be used for management activities such as vm migrations).
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It is, though if not needed, I think it's easier to do it later via oVirt.=
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>=20
> - Is it OK for me to setup my second two NICs in a LACP bond (required as=
they connect to our core switches) and to add VLANs on top of that bond, in=
clude the storage VLAN required for iSCSI access which is later required to h=
ost the hosted-engine?
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It is, though it might be easier to do it later via oVirt (unless you need=
it to
access the storage Hosted-Engine is using!)
Hosted_Engine/
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> ---
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> I think the hardest thing is that the documentation for oVirt seems very p=
oorly maintained, or it's at least scattered around various links or differe=
nt guides.
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Our documentation, like the code, is open source. Patches are always welco=
me.
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>=20
> Perhaps this isn't obvious to people that are already familiar with the c=
omponents, terminology and setup practises of oVirt / RHEV, but for someone l=
ike me coming from XenServer - it's confusing as anything.
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> Example diagram of infrastructure: https://i.imgur.com/U4hCP3a.png
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With iSCSI, I prefer multipathing, but I see why you'd want bond, if it's u=
sed for other traffic as well.
Y.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type"
content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Excellent responses, I
think you really cov=
ered everything quite well there.<div><br></div><div>I=E2=80=99d
heard some c=
ontradictory information from various sources so wasn=E2=80=99t quite sure w=
hat to believe.</div><div><br></div><div>I=E2=80=99ve
already contributed on=
e (tiny) documentation patch that was merged in yesterday - if we go ahead w=
ith ovirt from XenServer - I=E2=80=99ll definitely be contributing more, you=
have my word on that.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks again
for your time.<=
br><div><br><div>--<div>Sam McLeod (protoporpoise on
IRC)</div></div><div><b=
r>On 10 Jan 2018, at 19:27, Yaniv Kaul <<a
href=3D"mailto:ykaul@redhat.co=
m">ykaul(a)redhat.com</a>&gt;
wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote">On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 8:35 AM, Sam McLeod <span
dir=3D"ltr"><<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:mailinglists@smcleod.net"
target=3D"_blank">mailinglists@smcle=
od.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:=
1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div>I'm trying
to find the stable /=
current oVirt-live ISO to
download.</div><div><br></div><div>According to t=
he official documentation, it looks like there is only the legacy 4.1 ISO, o=
r nightly / unstable builds of
4.2(.2?)?</div><div><br></div><div>SRC: =
<a href=3D"https://www.ovirt.org/download/ovirt-live/"
target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://www.ovirt.org/<wbr>download/ovirt-live/</a></div>&...
v><br></div><div>I'm hoping we have deprecated it. For demo
purposes, you co=
uld set up ovirt-system-tests[1]. For an all-in-one you could either install=
the Engine and the hypervisor on the same physical host, or a self-hosted-e=
ngine with a single physical
node.</div><div> </div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></=
div><div>---</div><div><br></div><div>Alternatively,
if one is to deploy the=
'self-hosted-engine' on top of CentOS 7.4, the documentation doesn't make i=
t clear what you should vs shouldn't setup on the host prior to deploying th=
e hosted engine.</div><div><br></div><div>For example, some
big questions po=
p up around networking, e.g.:</div><div><br></div><div>-
Should I be setting=
those up during CentOS's install using the installer (which I believe confi=
gures them with Network Manager), or should I be setting up the ifcfg files m=
anually by hand without touching Network Manager via the server's remot=
e console after the install has
finished?</div></div></blockquote><div><br><=
/div><div>Either is
fine.</div><div> </div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,20=
4);padding-left:1ex"><div
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div><div=
- Is it OK for me to setup my first two NICs in a mode 1 (A/P) or 4
(XOR) b=
ond (these are connected to a 'dumb' switch and provide internet
access and l=
ater will be used for management activities such as vm migrations).</div></d=
iv></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It is, though if not
needed, I think it'=
s easier to do it later via
oVirt.</div><div> </div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></=
div><div>- Is it OK for me to setup my second two NICs in a LACP bond (requi=
red as they connect to our core switches) and to add VLANs on top of that bo=
nd, include the storage VLAN required for iSCSI access which is later requir=
ed to host the
hosted-engine?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It=
is, though it might be easier to do it later via oVirt (unless you need it t=
o access the storage Hosted-Engine is
using!)</div><div> </div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px
s=
olid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">=
<div><br></div><div>SRC: <a
href=3D"https://www.ovirt.org/documentation=
/self-hosted/chap-Deploying_Self-Hosted_Engine/"
target=3D"_blank">https://w=
ww.ovirt.org/<wbr>documentation/self-hosted/<wbr>chap-Deployi...
<wbr>Engine/</a></div><div><br></div><div>---</div><div><br></div><div>I
thi=
nk the hardest thing is that the documentation for oVirt seems very poorly m=
aintained, or it's at least scattered around various links or different guid=
es.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Our
documentation, like the c=
ode, is open source. Patches are always
welcome.</div><div><br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left:1px=
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word=
"><div><br></div><div>Perhaps this isn't obvious to
people that are already f=
amiliar with the components, terminology and setup practises of oVirt / RHEV=
, but for someone like me coming from XenServer - it's confusing as anything=
.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Example
diagram of infrastructure:=
<a href=3D"https://i.imgur.com/U4hCP3a.png"
target=3D"_blank">https://=
i.<wbr>imgur.com/U4hCP3a.png</a></div></div></...
![href=3D"https://i.imgur.com/U4hCP3a.png"](http://href=3D"https://i.imgur.com/U4hCP3a.png%22){kind=link}
With iSCSI, I prefer multipathing, but I see why you'd want bond,
if it's u=
sed for other traffic as
well.</div><div>Y.</div><div><br></div><div>[1]&nbs=
p;<a
href=3D"http://ovirt-system-tests.readthedocs.io/en/latest/">ovirt-syst=
em-tests.readthedocs.io/en/latest/</a> </div><blockquote
class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,=
204);padding-left:1ex"><div
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"></div></blockquot=
e><div> </div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"
style=3D"margin:0px 0px=
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div sty=
le=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div><div><div