--_000_CY4PR14MB168719093DFEF0B3DA20FEDC892C0CY4PR14MB1687namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I somehow agree to this statement While ovirt team is really doing an awesome job and ovirt is getting more a= nd more polished at every release, a +100 critical bugfixes statement in a = minor release tends to underline the flaws of 4.1.0 rather than the good th= ings of 4.1.1 Considering that A) there could be no test environment to check the upgraded version be= havior and B) the upgrade itself may require more than a bit of effort when there= are dozen hosts and multiple clusters involved, this does not really encourage to always push the datacenter to the latest = version available, especially if the in-production version is not misbehavi= ng. Please note I'm just sharing our company view and not blaming anyone. Cheers Andrea From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of= Christophe TREFOIS Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 12:18 AM To: Sandro Bonazzola <sbonazzo@redhat.com> Cc: users <users@ovirt.org> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] [ANN] oVirt 4.1.1 First Release Candidate Hi, Is 4.1.0 still recommneded an upgrade from 4.0.6 in production or should we= wait for 4.1.1 to comee out? 100+ critical bugs fixed sounds good but doesnt really encourage upgrading = to 4.1.0 thoughts? Christophe On 3 Mar 2017, at 14:48, Sandro Bonazzola <sbonazzo@redhat.com<mailto:sbona= zzo@redhat.com>> wrote: The oVirt Project is pleased to announce the availability of the First Release Candidate of oVirt 4.1.1 for testing, as of March 3rd, 2017 This is pre-release software. Please take a look at our community page[1] to know how to ask questions and interact with developers and users. All issues or bugs should be reported via oVirt Bugzilla[2]. This pre-release should not to be used in production. This update is the first release candidate of the first in a series of stabilization updates to the 4.1 series. 4.1.1 brings 26 enhancements and more than 350 bugfixes, including more than 130 high or urgent severity fixes, on top of oVirt 4.1 series This release is available now for: * Fedora 24 (tech preview) * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.3 or later * CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.3 or later This release supports Hypervisor Hosts running: * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.3 or later * CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.3 or later * Fedora 24 (tech preview) See the release notes draft [3] for installation / upgrade instructions and a list of new features and bugs fixed. Notes: - oVirt Live has been already built [4] - oVirt Node and Appliance has not been built for this release due to build= issues we're still investigating. Additional Resources: * Read more about the oVirt 4.1.1 release highlights:http://www.ovirt.org/r= elease/4.1.1/ * Get more oVirt Project updates on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ovirt * Check out the latest project news on the oVirt blog:http://www.ovirt.org/= blog/ [1] https://www.ovirt.org/community/ [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=3DoVirt [3] http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.1.1/ [4] http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.1-pre/iso/ -- Sandro Bonazzola Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community collaboration. See how it works at redhat.com<http://redhat.com> _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org<mailto:Users@ovirt.org> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users --_000_CY4PR14MB168719093DFEF0B3DA20FEDC892C0CY4PR14MB1687namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-micr= osoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns=3D"http:= //www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"=
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link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"> <div class=3D"WordSection1"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif">I somehow agree to this statement<o:p></o:p></span>= </p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif">While ovirt team is really doing an awesome job and= ovirt is getting more and more polished at every release, a +100 criti= cal bugfixes statement in a minor release tends to underline the flaws of 4.1.0 rather than the good things of 4.1.1<o:p></o:= p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif">Considering that <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level= 1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&q= uot;Calibri",sans-serif"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">A)<span style= =3D"font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:= "Calibri",sans-serif">there could be no test environment to check= the upgraded version behavior and <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level= 1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&q= uot;Calibri",sans-serif"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">B)<span style= =3D"font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:= "Calibri",sans-serif">the upgrade itself may require more than a = bit of effort when there are dozen hosts and multiple clusters involved,<o:= p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif">this does not really encourage to always push the d= atacenter to the latest version available, especially if the in-production = version is not misbehaving.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif">Please note I’m just sharing our company view= and not blaming anyone.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif">Andrea<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca= libri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div> <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in = 0in 0in"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"= ;Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;= font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailt= o:users-bounces@ovirt.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Christophe TREFOIS<br> <b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 6, 2017 12:18 AM<br> <b>To:</b> Sandro Bonazzola <sbonazzo@redhat.com><br> <b>Cc:</b> users <users@ovirt.org><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [ovirt-users] [ANN] oVirt 4.1.1 First Release Candidate= <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Is 4.1.0 still recommneded an upgrade from 4.0.6 in = production or should we wait for 4.1.1 to comee out?<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">100+ critical bugs fixed sounds good but doesnt = really encourage upgrading to 4.1.0<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">thoughts?<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br> Christophe<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br> On 3 Mar 2017, at 14:48, Sandro Bonazzola <<a href=3D"mailto:sbonazzo@re= dhat.com">sbonazzo@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <div> <div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">The oVirt Project is pleased to announce the availab= ility of the First<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Release Candidate of oVirt 4.1.1 for testing, as of = March 3rd, 2017<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">This is pre-release software. Please take a look at = our community page[1]<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">to know how to ask questions and interact with devel= opers and users.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">All issues or bugs should be reported via oVirt Bugz= illa[2].<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">This pre-release should not to be used in production= .<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">This update is the first release candidate of the fi= rst in a series of<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">stabilization updates to the 4.1 series.<o:p></o:p><= /p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">4.1.1 brings 26 enhancements and more than 350 bugfi= xes,<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">including more than 130 high or urgent<o:p></o:p></p=
</p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">This release is available now for:<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">* Fedora 24 (tech preview)<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">* Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.3 or later<o:p></o:p></=
</div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">severity fixes, on top of oVirt 4.1 series<o:p></o:p= p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">* CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.3 or later<o:p></o:p><= /p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">This release supports Hypervisor Hosts running:<o:p>= </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">* Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.3 or later<o:p></o:p></= p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">* CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.3 or later<o:p></o:p><= /p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">* Fedora 24 (tech preview)<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">See the release notes draft [3] for installation / u= pgrade instructions and<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">a list of new features and bugs fixed.<o:p></o:p></p=
</o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">[1] <a href=3D"https://www.ovirt.org/community/">htt=
</div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Notes:<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">- oVirt Live has been already built [4]<o:p></o:p></= p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">- oVirt Node and Appliance has not been built for th= is release due to build issues we're still investigating.<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Additional Resources:<o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">* Read more about the oVirt 4.1.1 release highlights= :<a href=3D"http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.1.1/">http://www.ovirt.org/relea= se/4.1.1/</a><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">* Get more oVirt Project updates on Twitter: <a href= =3D"https://twitter.com/ovirt"> https://twitter.com/ovirt</a><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">* Check out the latest project news on the oVirt blo= g:<a href=3D"http://www.ovirt.org/blog/">http://www.ovirt.org/blog/</a><o:p= ps://www.ovirt.org/community/</a><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">[2] <a href=3D"https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug= .cgi?classification=3DoVirt"> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=3DoVirt</a><o:p></= o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">[3] <a href=3D"http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.1.1/">= http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.1.1/</a><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">[4] <a href=3D"http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-= 4.1-pre/iso/"> http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.1-pre/iso/</a><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">-- <o:p></o:p></p> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sandro Bonazzola<br> Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by community collaboration.<b= r> See how it works at <a href=3D"http://redhat.com" target=3D"_blank">redhat.= com</a><o:p></o:p></p> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> <blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br> Users mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:Users@ovirt.org">Users@ovirt.org</a><br> <a href=3D"http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users">http://lists.ovir= t.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a><o:p></o:p></p> </div> </blockquote> </div> </body> </html> --_000_CY4PR14MB168719093DFEF0B3DA20FEDC892C0CY4PR14MB1687namp_--