--_000_D86C48DF8800164BBE50B87623F7AC9585F5111Dln2wio001devtra_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Another example. This one was moved to a new storage domain root@ovirt_host1> qemu-img info dd6f25f6-7830-4024-915f-a20268797c34 image: dd6f25f6-7830-4024-915f-a20268797c34 file format: raw virtual size: 200G (214748364800 bytes) disk size: 5.0G root@ ovirt_host1> cat dd6f25f6-7830-4024-915f-a20268797c34.meta DOMAIN=3D53560d43-874a-49c5-9c5a-8b90487c79f8 VOLTYPE=3DLEAF CTIME=3D1470305678 FORMAT=3DRAW IMAGE=3D741976cd-d1cb-4031-bdbe-6a745dff16ef DISKTYPE=3D2 PUUID=3D00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 LEGALITY=3DLEGAL MTIME=3D0 POOL_UUID=3D SIZE=3D419430400 TYPE=3DPREALLOCATED DESCRIPTION=3D EOF This one has not been moved: root@ny2-lvb-066.mgt> qemu-img info 155f0d33-c280-4236-8d1e-fcb88f9a1242 image: 155f0d33-c280-4236-8d1e-fcb88f9a1242 file format: raw virtual size: 90G (96636764160 bytes) disk size: 90G root@ny2-lvb-066.mgt> cat 155f0d33-c280-4236-8d1e-fcb88f9a1242.meta DOMAIN=3D59bde2ff-e10d-477e-91c1-6355abff0999 CTIME=3D1464946639 FORMAT=3DRAW DISKTYPE=3D2 LEGALITY=3DLEGAL SIZE=3D188743680 VOLTYPE=3DLEAF DESCRIPTION=3D{"DiskAlias":"ny2-laa-010.prod_Disk1","DiskDescription":""} IMAGE=3D82158182-81a4-458e-a41b-663756962666 PUUID=3D00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 MTIME=3D0 POOL_UUID=3D TYPE=3DPREALLOCATED EOF See the mismatch between "virtual size" and "disk size" on the one that was= moved. TIA, Simon From: users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of= Simon Barrett Sent: Friday, 5 August, 2016 10:25 To: users@ovirt.org Subject: [ovirt-users] preallocated storage issue? If I create a preallocated disk for a VM, I see the disk image file listing= as the size I requested (100G): cd /rhev/data-center/mnt/storage_host1:_vol_pa1__nas__01b__oVirt__prod__01/= 53560d43-874a-49c5-9c5a-8b90487c79f8/images/d97f7706-3662-40bf-9358-80e0dc5= 1bff4 root@ovirt_host> ls -l total 105064644 -rw-rw---- 1 vdsm kvm 107374182400 Aug 5 10:57 75c14559-e18f-4cc8-a3fe-bc0= de507720b -rw-rw---- 1 vdsm kvm 1048576 Aug 5 10:57 75c14559-e18f-4cc8-a3fe-bc0= de507720b.lease -rw-r--r-- 1 vdsm kvm 313 Aug 5 10:57 75c14559-e18f-4cc8-a3fe-bc0= de507720b.meta and the corresponding space used on disk matches root@ ovirt_host > du -sh * 101G 75c14559-e18f-4cc8-a3fe-bc0de507720b 1.1M 75c14559-e18f-4cc8-a3fe-bc0de507720b.lease 4.0K 75c14559-e18f-4cc8-a3fe-bc0de507720b.meta If I then migrate that storage (while the VM is shutdown) to a new storage = domain, the size on disk does not match the allocated size. In this case th= ere is nothing in the disk yet so it shows as 0. cd /rhev/data-center/mnt/storage_host2:_vol_pa1__ovirt__uatprod/1f2c2b48-1e= 77-4c98-a6da-5dc09b78cead/images/d97f7706-3662-40bf-9358-80e0dc51bff4 root@ ovirt_host> ls -l total 1032 -rw-rw---- 1 vdsm kvm 107374182400 Aug 5 11:06 75c14559-e18f-4cc8-a3fe-bc0= de507720b -rw-rw---- 1 vdsm kvm 1048576 Aug 5 11:06 75c14559-e18f-4cc8-a3fe-bc0= de507720b.lease -rw-r--r-- 1 vdsm kvm 313 Aug 5 11:06 75c14559-e18f-4cc8-a3fe-bc0= de507720b.meta root@ ovirt_host > du -sh * 0 75c14559-e18f-4cc8-a3fe-bc0de507720b 1.1M 75c14559-e18f-4cc8-a3fe-bc0de507720b.lease 4.0K 75c14559-e18f-4cc8-a3fe-bc0de507720b.meta oVirt still lists the disk as preallocated in the GUI but it is in fact thi= n provisioned. I see the same issue if I clone a preallocated VM. The size on disk ends up= being the equivalent of a thin-provisioned disk. I also had the issue when= importing VM's from an export domain when I had selected preallocated in t= he import dialog box. Is this a known issue? Should preallocated not mean preallocated on physica= l disk? Ovirt Engine is running 3.6.4.1-1.el6 The ovirt nodes are running: OS Version: RHEL - 7 - 2.1511.el7.centos.2.10 Kernel Version: 3.10.0 - 327.4.5.el7.x86_64 KVM Version: 2.3.0 - 31.el7_2.7.1 LIBVIRT Version: libvirt-1.2.17-13.el7_2.2 VDSM Version: vdsm-4.17.23.2-0.el7.centos SPICE Version: 0.12.4 - 15.el7 GlusterFS Version: [N/A] CEPH Version: librbd1-0.80.7-3.el7 Many thanks, Simon --_000_D86C48DF8800164BBE50B87623F7AC9585F5111Dln2wio001devtra_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-micr= osoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns=3D"http:= //www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"=
</o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">FORMAT=3DRAW<o:p></o:p= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">IMAGE=3D741976cd-d1cb-= 4031-bdbe-6a745dff16ef<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">DISKTYPE=3D2<o:p></o:p= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">PUUID=3D00000000-0000-= 0000-0000-000000000000<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">LEGALITY=3DLEGAL<o:p><= /o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">MTIME=3D0<o:p></o:p></= span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">POOL_UUID=3D<o:p></o:p= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">SIZE=3D419430400<o:p><= /o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">TYPE=3DPREALLOCATED<o:=
</o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">FORMAT=3DRAW<o:p></o:p= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">DISKTYPE=3D2<o:p></o:p= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">LEGALITY=3DLEGAL<o:p><= /o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">SIZE=3D188743680<o:p><= /o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">VOLTYPE=3DLEAF<o:p></o= :p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">DESCRIPTION=3D{"D= iskAlias":"ny2-laa-010.prod_Disk1","DiskDescription&quo= t;:""}<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">IMAGE=3D82158182-81a4-= 458e-a41b-663756962666<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">PUUID=3D00000000-0000-= 0000-0000-000000000000<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">MTIME=3D0<o:p></o:p></= span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">POOL_UUID=3D<o:p></o:p= </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">TYPE=3DPREALLOCATED<o:=
</p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a name=3D"_MailEndCompose"><span style=3D"color:#1F= 497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p> <div> <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in = 0in 0in"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> users-bounces@ovirt.org [mailto:users-b= ounces@ovirt.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Simon Barrett<br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, 5 August, 2016 10:25<br> <b>To:</b> users@ovirt.org<br> <b>Subject:</b> [ovirt-users] preallocated storage issue?<o:p></o:p></p> </div> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">If I create a preallocated disk for a VM, I see the = disk image file listing as the size I requested (100G):<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Co= urier New",serif">cd /rhev/data-center/mnt/storage_host1:_vol_pa1__nas= __01b__oVirt__prod__01/53560d43-874a-49c5-9c5a-8b90487c79f8/images/d97f7706= -3662-40bf-9358-80e0dc51bff4<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Co= urier New",serif">root@ovirt_host> ls -l<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Co= urier New",serif">total 105064644<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Co= urier New",serif">-rw-rw---- 1 vdsm kvm 107374182400 Aug 5 10:57= 75c14559-e18f-4cc8-a3fe-bc0de507720b<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Co= urier New",serif">-rw-rw---- 1 vdsm kvm = 1048576 Aug 5 10:57 75c14559-e18f-4cc8-a3fe-bc0de507720b.lease<o:p></= o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Co= urier New",serif">-rw-r--r-- 1 vdsm kvm &= nbsp; 313 Aug 5 10:57 75c14559-e18f-4cc8-a3fe-bc0de= 507720b.meta<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">and the corresponding space used on disk matches<o:p= </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Co= urier New",serif">root@ ovirt_host > du -sh *<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Co= urier New",serif">101G 75c14559-e18f-4cc8-a3fe-bc0de= 507720b<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Co= urier New",serif">1.1M 75c14559-e18f-4cc8-a3fe-bc0de= 507720b.lease<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Co= urier New",serif">4.0K 75c14559-e18f-4cc8-a3fe-bc0de= 507720b.meta<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">If I then migrate that storage (while the VM is shut= down) to a new storage domain, the size on disk does not match the allocate= d size. In this case there is nothing in the disk yet so it shows as 0.<o:p= </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Co= urier New",serif">cd /rhev/data-center/mnt/storage_host2:_vol_pa1__ovi= rt__uatprod/1f2c2b48-1e77-4c98-a6da-5dc09b78cead/images/d97f7706-3662-40bf-= 9358-80e0dc51bff4<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Co= urier New",serif">root@ ovirt_host> ls -l<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Co= urier New",serif">total 1032<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Co= urier New",serif">-rw-rw---- 1 vdsm kvm 107374182400 Aug 5 11:06= 75c14559-e18f-4cc8-a3fe-bc0de507720b<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Co= urier New",serif">-rw-rw---- 1 vdsm kvm = 1048576 Aug 5 11:06 75c14559-e18f-4cc8-a3fe-bc0de507720b.lease<o:p></= o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Co= urier New",serif">-rw-r--r-- 1 vdsm kvm &= nbsp; 313 Aug 5 11:06 75c14559-e18f-4cc8-a3fe-bc0de= 507720b.meta<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Co= urier New",serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Co= urier New",serif">root@ ovirt_host > du -sh *<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Co= urier New",serif">0 75c14559-e18f-= 4cc8-a3fe-bc0de507720b<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Co= urier New",serif">1.1M 75c14559-e18f-4cc8-a3fe-bc0de= 507720b.lease<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Co= urier New",serif">4.0K 75c14559-e18f-4cc8-a3fe-bc0de= 507720b.meta<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">oVirt still lists the disk as preallocated in the GU= I but it is in fact thin provisioned.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I see the same issue if I clone a preallocated VM. T= he size on disk ends up being the equivalent of a thin-provisioned disk. I = also had the issue when importing VM’s from an export domain when I h= ad selected preallocated in the import dialog box.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Is this a known issue? Should preallocated not mean =
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This = one was moved to a new storage domain<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= n></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">root@ovirt_host1> q= emu-img info dd6f25f6-7830-4024-915f-a20268797c34<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">image: dd6f25f6-7830-4= 024-915f-a20268797c34<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">file format: raw<o:p><= /o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">virtual size: 200G (21= 4748364800 bytes)<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">disk size: 5.0G<o:p></= o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= n></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">root@ ovirt_host1> = cat dd6f25f6-7830-4024-915f-a20268797c34.meta<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">DOMAIN=3D53560d43-874a= -49c5-9c5a-8b90487c79f8<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">VOLTYPE=3DLEAF<o:p></o= :p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">CTIME=3D1470305678<o:p= p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">DESCRIPTION=3D<o:p></o= :p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">EOF<o:p></o:p></span><= /p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= n></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= n></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">This one has not been = moved:<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= n></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">root@ny2-lvb-066.mgt&g= t; qemu-img info 155f0d33-c280-4236-8d1e-fcb88f9a1242<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">image: 155f0d33-c280-4= 236-8d1e-fcb88f9a1242<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">file format: raw<o:p><= /o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">virtual size: 90G (966= 36764160 bytes)<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">disk size: 90G<o:p></o= :p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= n></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">root@ny2-lvb-066.mgt&g= t; cat 155f0d33-c280-4236-8d1e-fcb88f9a1242.meta<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">DOMAIN=3D59bde2ff-e10d= -477e-91c1-6355abff0999<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">CTIME=3D1464946639<o:p= p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">EOF<o:p></o:p></span><= /p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= n></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">See the mismatch betwe= en “virtual size” and “disk size” on the one that w= as moved.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= n></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">TIA,<o:p></o:p></span>= </p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></spa= n></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Simon<o:p></o:p></span= preallocated on physical disk?<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ovirt Engine is running 3.6.4.1-1.el6<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">The ovirt nodes are running: <o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">OS Version: = ; &= nbsp; RHEL - 7 - 2.1511.el7.centos.2.10<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Kernel Version: = 3.10.0 - 327.4.5.el7= .x86_64<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">KVM Version: &nb= sp; 2.3.0= - 31.el7_2.7.1<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">LIBVIRT Version: = libvirt-1.2.17-13.el7_2.2<= o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">VDSM Version: &n= bsp; vdsm-4.17.23.2-0.el7.c= entos<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">SPICE Version: &= nbsp; 0.12.4 - 15.el7= <o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">GlusterFS Version: &nbs= p; [N/A]<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">CEPH Version: &n= bsp; librbd1-0.= 80.7-3.el7<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Many thanks,<o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Simon<o:p></o:p></p> </div> </body> </html> --_000_D86C48DF8800164BBE50B87623F7AC9585F5111Dln2wio001devtra_--