[Users] spice issues preventing me using Ovirt (not been able to test it yet) - Is it possible to use VNC ?

Hi For the last few weeks I have been tried to test Ovirt - but am failing due to spice not working... I have created a bugzilla ticket about my spice issues https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=805552 At the minute spice just doesn't work for me - I have tried from multiple desktops - (1 FC16 1 opensuse 12.1) - both have the same spice versions (spice-xpi, etc). All I want to do really is see Ovirt working, can I use VNC or is that a WIP? If I select VNC in Ovirt how do I connect (the spice icon is greyed out) Or (preferred) can anyone help me with spice? Regards