global maintence mode is already on. hosted-engine --vm-start-paused
results in a non-paused VM being started. Of course, this is executed
after hosted-engine --vm-poweroff and suitable time left to let things shut
down.
I just ran another test, and did in fact see the engine was briefly paused,
but then was quickly put in the running state. I don't know by what,
though. Global maintence mode is definitely enabled, every run of the
hosted-engine command reminds me!
On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Darrell Budic <budic(a)onholyground.com>
wrote:
Don’t know if there’s anything special, it’s been a while since I’ve
needed to start it in paused mode. Try putting it in HA maintenance mode
from the CLI and then start it in paused mode maybe?
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*From:* Jim Kusznir <jim(a)palousetech.com>
*Subject:* Re: [ovirt-users] Upgraded host, engine now won't boot
*Date:* September 3, 2018 at 1:08:27 PM CDT
*To:* Darrell Budic
*Cc:* users
Unfortunately, I seem unable to get connected to the console early enough
to actually see a kernel list.
I've tried the hosted-engine --start-vm-paused command, but it just starts
it (running mode, not paused). By the time I can get vnc connected, I have
just that last line. ctrl-alt-del doesn't do anything with it, either.
sending a reset through virsh seems to just kill the VM (it doesn't
respawn).
ha seems to have some trouble with this too...Originally I allowed ha to
start it, and it would take it a good long while before it gave up on the
engine and reset it. It instantly booted to the same crashed state, and
again waited a "good long while" (sorry, never timed it, but I know it was
>5 min).
My current thought is that I need to get the engine started in paused
mode, connect vnc, then unpause it with virsh to catch what is happening.
Is there any magic to getting it started in paused mode?
On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 11:03 AM, Darrell Budic <budic(a)onholyground.com>
wrote:
> Send it a ctl-alt-delete and see what happens. Possibly try an older
> kernel at the grub boot menu. Could also try stopping it with hosted-engine
> —vm-stop and let HA reboot it, see if it boots or get onto the console
> quickly and try and watch more of the boot.
>
> Ssh and yum upgrade is fine for the OS, although it’s a good idea to
> enable Global HA Maintenance first so the HA watchdogs don’t reboot it in
> the middle of that. After that, run “engine-setup” again, at least if there
> are new ovirt engine updates to be done. Then disable Global HA
> Maintenance, and run "shutdown -h now” to stop the Engine VM (rebooting
> seems to cause it to exit anyway, HA seems to run it as a single execution
> VM. Or at least in the past, it seems to quit anyway on me and shutdown
> triggered HA faster). Wait a few minutes, and HA will respawn it on a new
> instance and you can log into your engine again.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Jim Kusznir <jim(a)palousetech.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [ovirt-users] Upgraded host, engine now won't boot
> *Date:* September 3, 2018 at 12:45:22 PM CDT
> *To:* Darrell Budic
> *Cc:* users
>
>
> Thanks to Jayme who pointed me to the --add-console-password
> hosted-engine command to set a password for vnc. Using that, I see only
> the single line:
>
> Probing EDD (edd=off to disable)... ok
>
> --Jim
>
> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Jim Kusznir <jim(a)palousetech.com> wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to get a graphical console on boot of the engine vm so I
>> can see what's causing the failure to boot?
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 10:23 AM, Jim Kusznir <jim(a)palousetech.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks; I guess I didn't mention that I started there.
>>>
>>> The virsh list shows it in state running, and gluster is showing fully
>>> online and healed. However, I cannot bring up a console of the engine VM
>>> to see why its not booting, even though it shows in running state.
>>>
>>> In any case, the hosts and engine were running happily. I applied the
>>> latest updates on the host, and the engine went unstable. I thought, Ok,
>>> maybe there's an update to ovirt that also needs to be applied to the
>>> engine, so I ssh'ed in and ran yum update (never did find clear
>>> instructions on how one is supposed to maintain the engine, but I did see
>>> that listed online). A while later, it reset and never booted again.
>>>
>>> -JIm
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 4:28 PM, Darrell Budic <budic(a)onholyground.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It’s definitely not starting, you’ll have to see if you can figure out
>>>> why. A couple things to try:
>>>>
>>>> - Check "virsh list" and see if it’s running, or paused for
storage.
>>>> (google "virsh saslpasswd2
>>>>
<
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=virsh+saslpa...
>>>> if you need to add a user to do this with, it’s per host)
>>>> - It’s hyper converged, so check your gluster volume for healing
>>>> and/or split brains and wait/resolve those.
>>>> - check “gluster peer status” and on each host and make sure your
>>>> gluster hosts are all talking. I’ve seen an upgrade screwup the
firewall,
>>>> easy fix is to add a rule to allow the hosts to talk to each other on
your
>>>> gluster network, no questions asked (-j ACCEPT, no port, etc).
>>>>
>>>> Good luck!
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Jim Kusznir <jim(a)palousetech.com>
>>>> *Subject:* [ovirt-users] Upgraded host, engine now won't boot
>>>> *Date:* September 1, 2018 at 8:38:12 PM CDT
>>>> *To:* users
>>>>
>>>> Hello:
>>>>
>>>> I saw that there were updates to my ovirt-4.2 3 node hyperconverged
>>>> system, so I proceeded to apply them the usual way through the UI.
>>>>
>>>> At one point, the hosted engine was migrated to one of the upgraded
>>>> hosts, and then went "unstable" on me. Now, the hosted engine
appears to
>>>> be crashed: It gets powered up, but it never boots up to the point
where
>>>> it responds to pings or allows logins. After a while, the hosted engine
>>>> shows status (via console "hosted-engine --vm-status" command)
"Powering
>>>> Down". It stays there for a long time.
>>>>
>>>> I tried forcing a poweroff then powering it on, but again, it never
>>>> gets up to where it will respond to pings. --vm-status shows bad
health,
>>>> but up.
>>>>
>>>> I tried running the hosted-engine --console command, but got:
>>>>
>>>> [root@ovirt1 ~]# hosted-engine --console
>>>> The engine VM is running on this host
>>>> Connected to domain HostedEngine
>>>> Escape character is ^]
>>>> error: internal error: cannot find character device <null>
>>>>
>>>> [root@ovirt1 ~]#
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I tried to run the hosted-engine --upgrade-appliance command, but it
>>>> hangs at obtaining certificate (understandably, as the hosted-engine is
not
>>>> up).
>>>>
>>>> How do i recover from this? And what caused this?
>>>>
>>>> --Jim
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