Thank you all!
On Feb 22, 2014 2:25 PM, "Koen Vanoppen" <vanoppen.koen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Zie facebook :-). Doe dat vandaag nog. Misschien maandag antwoord
:-)
On Feb 22, 2014 12:22 PM, "David Van Zeebroeck" <
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> Maandag is ook goed hoor
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> Schildpad ?
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> On 22-feb.-2014, at 10:57, "Koen Vanoppen" <vanoppen.koen(a)gmail.com>
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> Komt in orde hoor... Geen probleem. Zal dat vanavond doen. Eerst
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>> koen file er een bug voor want ik denk niet dat iemand het gedaan heeft
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Koen Vanoppen <vanoppen.koen(a)gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I think someone created one. Don't know for sure... What do you think
>>> it is then?
>>> On Feb 21, 2014 11:24 AM, "Martin Sivak" <msivak(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I think I found the issue. I suspect it will happen when you get over
>>>> 35% of used memory.
>>>>
>>>> Can you please create a bug for this issue? Or is there one already?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Martin Sivák
>>>> msivak(a)redhat.com
>>>> Red Hat Czech
>>>> RHEV-M SLA / Brno, CZ
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > I'm waiting for the next alarm. In the meanwhile this is the
output
>>>> now:
>>>> > vdsClient -s saturnus2 getVmStats
>>>> 3b9aa245-75ff-42e8-b921-1c9ce61826bf
>>>> >
>>>> > 3b9aa245-75ff-42e8-b921-1c9ce61826bf
>>>> > Status = Running
>>>> > guestFQDN = galatea.***.****
>>>> > memUsage = 32
>>>> > acpiEnable = true
>>>> > netIfaces = [{'inet6': [], 'hw':
'52:54:00:49:11:9d', 'inet':
>>>> > ['192.168.99.19'], 'name': 'eth1'},
{'inet6': [], 'hw':
>>>> > '00:1a:4a:67:c4:b3', 'inet': ['10.110.X.X'],
'name': 'eth2'},
>>>> {'inet6': [],
>>>> > 'hw': '52:54:00:f1:22:48', 'inet':
['192.168.122.1'], 'name':
>>>> 'virbr0'}]
>>>> > pid = 38144
>>>> > session = Unknown
>>>> > vmType = kvm
>>>> > timeOffset = 0
>>>> > balloonInfo = {'balloon_max': '12582912',
'balloon_min':
>>>> '8388608',
>>>> > 'balloon_target': '12582912', 'balloon_cur':
'12582912'}
>>>> > pauseCode = NOERR
>>>> > disksUsage = [{'path': '/', 'total':
'37655093248', 'fs': 'ext4',
>>>> > 'used': '21765771264'}, {'path':
'/boot', 'total': '507744256', 'fs':
>>>> > 'ext4', 'used': '49356800'}]
>>>> > network = {'vnet0': {'macAddr':
'00:1a:4a:67:c4:b3',
>>>> 'rxDropped': '0',
>>>> > 'txDropped': '0', 'rxErrors': '0',
'txRate': '0.0', 'rxRate': '0.0',
>>>> > 'txErrors': '0', 'state': 'unknown',
'speed': '1000', 'name':
>>>> 'vnet0'},
>>>> > 'vnet1': {'macAddr': '52:54:00:49:11:9d',
'rxDropped': '0',
>>>> 'txDropped':
>>>> > '0', 'rxErrors': '0', 'txRate':
'0.0', 'rxRate': '0.0', 'txErrors':
>>>> '0',
>>>> > 'state': 'unknown', 'speed': '1000',
'name': 'vnet1'}, 'vnet2':
>>>> {'macAddr':
>>>> > '52:54:00:66:d3:aa', 'rxDropped': '0',
'txDropped': '0', 'rxErrors':
>>>> '0',
>>>> > 'txRate': '0.0', 'rxRate': '0.0',
'txErrors': '0', 'state':
>>>> 'unknown',
>>>> > 'speed': '1000', 'name': 'vnet2'}}
>>>> > memoryStats = {'swap_out': '0',
'majflt': '0', 'mem_free':
>>>> '8520656',
>>>> > 'swap_in': '0', 'pageflt': '396',
'mem_total': '12197520',
>>>> 'mem_unused':
>>>> > '1580896'}
>>>> > guestName = galatea.brusselsairport.aero
>>>> > elapsedTime = 2251149
>>>> > displayType = qxl
>>>> > cpuSys = 12.76
>>>> > appsList = ['ovirt-guest-agent-1.0.8-1.el6',
>>>> 'kernel-2.6.32-71.el6']
>>>> > guestOs = 2.6.32-71.el6.x86_64
>>>> > username = vandenpt
>>>> > hash = -3779086589437073991
>>>> > displayIp = 0
>>>> > displayPort = 5900
>>>> > guestIPs = 192.168.99.19 10.110.50.84 192.168.122.1
>>>> > kvmEnable = true
>>>> > disks = {'vda': {'readLatency': '0',
'apparentsize':
>>>> '45097156608',
>>>> > 'writeLatency': '1313701', 'imageID':
>>>> > '528a377f-4f98-4023-92de-ce52c394d4a9',
'flushLatency': '187524',
>>>> > 'readRate': '0.00', 'truesize':
'45097156608', 'writeRate':
>>>> '8502.90'},
>>>> > 'hdc': {'readLatency': '0',
'apparentsize': '0', 'writeLatency': '0',
>>>> > 'flushLatency': '0', 'readRate':
'0.00', 'truesize': '0',
>>>> 'writeRate':
>>>> > '0.00'}}
>>>> > monitorResponse = 0
>>>> > statsAge = 0.47
>>>> > cpuUser = 68.45
>>>> > lastLogin = 1392707812.29
>>>> > clientIp =
>>>> > displaySecurePort = 5901
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > 2014-02-17 14:00 GMT+01:00 Martin Sivak <msivak(a)redhat.com>:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Hi Koen,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > can you try the mentioned vdsClient command (vdsClient
getVmStats
>>>> > > <affected vm>) as soon as you get the warning about
negative
>>>> memory? The
>>>> > > one David sent to us does not contain the negative number and
we
>>>> weren't
>>>> > > able to find the issue based on it.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Thanks
>>>> > >
>>>> > > --
>>>> > > Martin Sivák
>>>> > > msivak(a)redhat.com
>>>> > > Red Hat Czech
>>>> > > RHEV-M SLA / Brno, CZ
>>>> > >
>>>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > > > Any updates about the issue? Because just now, the alarm
went
>>>> off again
>>>> > > :-)
>>>> > > > Kind regards,
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Koen
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > 2014-02-13 16:55 GMT+01:00 Martin Sivak
<msivak(a)redhat.com>:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > > Thank you.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > I wonder why mem_total is smaller than balloon_cur
(and max).
>>>> I will
>>>> > > have
>>>> > > > > to dig a bit more to see what happened.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > --
>>>> > > > > Martin Sivák
>>>> > > > > msivak(a)redhat.com
>>>> > > > > Red Hat Czech
>>>> > > > > RHEV-M SLA / Brno, CZ
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> > > > > > From: "david van zeebroeck" <
>>>> david(a)analytics.brusselsairport.be >
>>>> > > > > > Date: Feb 13, 2014 4:31 PM
>>>> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Users] Memory usage
>>>> > > > > > To: "Martin Sivak" <
msivak(a)redhat.com >
>>>> > > > > > Cc: "Doron Fediuck" <
dfediuck(a)redhat.com >, "Koen
>>>> Vanoppen" <
>>>> > > > > > vanoppen.koen(a)gmail.com >, <
users(a)ovirt.org >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > in attachement is the output of vdsclient
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Martin Sivak
<
>>>> msivak(a)redhat.com >
>>>> > > > > wrote:
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > Hi everybody,
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > would it be possible to add the output of
vdsClient
>>>> getVmStats
>>>> > > <affected
>>>> > > > > vm
>>>> > > > > > id> from the affected host here and to the
bug?
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > Also can we please get the bug number that
tracks this
>>>> issue? I
>>>> > > could not
>>>> > > > > > find it in BZ.
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > --
>>>> > > > > > Martin Sivák
>>>> > > > > > msivak(a)redhat.com
>>>> > > > > > Red Hat Czech
>>>> > > > > > RHEV-M SLA / Brno, CZ
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > > > > > > > From: "Koen Vanoppen" <
vanoppen.koen(a)gmail.com >
>>>> > > > > > > > To: users(a)ovirt.org
>>>> > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014
12:18:24 PM
>>>> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Users] Memory usage
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > We can't turn off the memory
balloon option because we
>>>> are
>>>> > > running
>>>> > > > > the
>>>> > > > > > > > 3.3.2
>>>> > > > > > > > with the bug of the memory balloon.
Thx for the help!
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > Which balloon bug?
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > On Feb 13, 2014 10:51 AM, "Doron
Fediuck" <
>>>> dfediuck(a)redhat.com>
>>>> > > > > wrote:
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > > > > > > > > From: "René Koch" <
rkoch(a)linuxland.at >
>>>> > > > > > > > > To: "Doron Fediuck"
< dfediuck(a)redhat.com >
>>>> > > > > > > > > Cc: "Koen Vanoppen"
< vanoppen.koen(a)gmail.com >,
>>>> > > users(a)ovirt.org ,
>>>> > > > > > > > > "Martin
>>>> > > > > > > > > Sivak" <
msivak(a)redhat.com >
>>>> > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014
11:16:27 AM
>>>> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Users] Memory
usage
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 03:49
-0500, Doron Fediuck wrote:
>>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message
-----
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > From: "René
Koch" < rkoch(a)linuxland.at >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > To: "Doron
Fediuck" < dfediuck(a)redhat.com >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > Cc: "Koen
Vanoppen" < vanoppen.koen(a)gmail.com >,
>>>> > > > > users(a)ovirt.org ,
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > "Martin
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > Sivak" <
msivak(a)redhat.com >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday,
February 12, 2014 7:31:47 PM
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Users]
Memory usage
>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2014-02-12 at
11:22 -0500, Doron Fediuck
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original
Message -----
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > From:
"René Koch" < rkoch(a)linuxland.at >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > To:
"Koen Vanoppen" < vanoppen.koen(a)gmail.com>
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Cc:
users(a)ovirt.org
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent:
Wednesday, February 12, 2014 4:18:37 PM
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re:
[Users] Memory usage
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed,
2014-02-12 at 15:14 +0100, Koen
>>>> Vanoppen wrote:
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In The
GUI, it says it's using 25% of the
>>>> memory.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess
it's the real value, right?
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > The same
happened for the memcached vm, someone
>>>> > > reported
>>>> > > > > to me
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > -
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > negative
value in REST-API, but correct graph
>>>> in oVirt
>>>> > > > > webadmin
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > GUI.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > I fear I have
no idea how this can happen - so
>>>> maybe
>>>> > > > > someone
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > else
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > can
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > help you
troubleshoot this issue.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2014-02-12 15:10 GMT+01:00 Koen Vanoppen <
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
vanoppen.koen(a)gmail.com >:
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
for the quick respons, but there is no
>>>> > > memcached
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > running
on that VM.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind
regards
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2014-02-12 15:06 GMT+01:00 René Koch <
>>>> > > > > rkoch(a)linuxland.at >:
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed,
2014-02-12 at 14:55 +0100, Koen
>>>> Vanoppen
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Dear all,
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
When we monitor one of our machines, we
>>>> noticed
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
that
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > there
was one vm
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
that was constantly giving a error of
>>>> memory
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
usage.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > But when
we took a
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
look at it, there is actually nothing
>>>> wrong with
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
it.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now we
looked
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
furhter then that. We looked at the API of
>>>> the
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > machine
and noticed
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
something very strange:
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
<statistic
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > >
>>>>
href="/api/vms/3b9aa245-75ff-42e8-b921-1c9ce61826bf/statistics/b7499508-c1c3-32f0-8174-c1783e57bb08"
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > >
>>>>
id="b7499508-c1c3-32f0-8174-c1783e57bb08"><name>memory.used</name><description>Memory
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > used
(agent)</description><values
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > >
>>>>
type="INTEGER"><value><datum>-944892806</datum></value></values><type>GAUGE</type><unit>BYTES</unit>
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
It's a negative...
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you
have memcached running in this vm?
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I heard
about this issue with memcached, but
>>>> never
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested
memcached in
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > my oVirt
environment. You get the real usage
>>>> value
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > with
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
memory.used = memory.installed + memory.used
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Regards,
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > René
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
What could be the problem?
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Kind regards,
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
koen
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > Guys,
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > these values are
usually a result of
>>>> overcommitment
>>>> > > mechanism
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > usage.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > For example, if
KSM is effective, it will free a
>>>> lot of
>>>> > > > > memory
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > pages,
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > and
total-free-committed becomes negative.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for the
information.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > This was reported
in
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=977758
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > and the engine is
using memFree reported by
>>>> vdsm, which
>>>> > > is
>>>> > > > > more
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > accurate.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > The API reports
the old version due to backwards
>>>> > > > > compatibility.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > I just had a look at
the bugzilla report and the
>>>> RHEV
>>>> > > > > documentation
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > which says
"Current memory in bytes used by the
>>>> virtual
>>>> > > > > machine.".
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > So this means, the
reported values are totally
>>>> useless for
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > monitoring
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > memory usage of a
virtual machine if KSM is
>>>> active. I would
>>>> > > > > expect
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > to
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > get the memory usage of
a virtual machine and not
>>>> how much
>>>> > > > > memory
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > is
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > consumed on the
hypervisor (this is pretty useless
>>>> > > information
>>>> > > > > for
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > me).
>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > Is it planned to report
the memory usage in a
>>>> virtual
>>>> > > machine
>>>> > > > > in
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > the
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > API
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > as well?
>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > René
>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > René,
>>>> > > > > > > > > > started digging into this,
but it may take some time.
>>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > Note that there are 2 memory
usage reports; one for
>>>> the host,
>>>> > > > > > > > > > and another for each VM.
>>>> > > > > > > > > > My response is related to
the host, while the
>>>> original
>>>> > > question
>>>> > > > > was
>>>> > > > > > > > > > for the VM. I still think
the root cause is the same
>>>> (ie-
>>>> > > > > related to
>>>> > > > > > > > > > overcommitment; for example
the VM may have a balloon
>>>> > > inflated),
>>>> > > > > but
>>>> > > > > > > > > > would like to properly check
and fix if needed.
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > Yes, I know. So my question was
if we can add another
>>>> value
>>>> > > for the
>>>> > > > > > > > > usage in the vm in addition to
the usage of the vm on
>>>> the host.
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > We'll know once we understand the
cause- ie is it a bug
>>>> needs
>>>> > > fixing
>>>> > > > > or
>>>> > > > > > > > should we indeed add another value
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > If you have a setup with this issue,
try removing the
>>>> balloon
>>>> > > device
>>>> > > > > > > > and see if it helps / changes.
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > In order to make sure we
keep track of it, please
>>>> open a bug
>>>> > > > > with all
>>>> > > > > > > > > > the
>>>> > > > > > > > > > relevant info.
>>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > I'll open a bug for this.
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > Thanks
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > Thanks and keep reporting!
>>>> > > > > > > > > > Doron
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > >
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