------=_Part_17958912_581886440.1492593291184 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello pavel,=20 Thanks for you answer.=20 I did find this parameter (only) in /etc/vdsm/vdsm.conf.rpmnew (??)=20 Parameter is commented with value 2 so my guess is that it is not used... S= o this brings a few more questions :=20 - Since parameter is commented, default value must be used... can we be sur= e that 2 is default value?=20 I do found strange that migrations are limited to 2, I have the feeling tha= t more than two are simultaneously being migrated (but I'm maybe wrong), ho= w to be sure?=20 cordialement, regards,=20 =09Nelson LAMEIRAS=20 Ing=C3=A9nieur Syst=C3=A8mes et R=C3=A9seaux / Systems and Networks enginee= r=20 Tel: +33 5 32 09 09 70=20 nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com=20 www.lyra-network.com | www.payzen.eu=20 =09 =09 =09 Lyra Network, 109 rue de l'innovation, 31670 Lab=C3=A8ge, FRANCE=20 From: "Pavel Gashev" <Pax@acronis.com>=20 To: users@ovirt.org, "nelson lameiras" <nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com>= =20 Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 7:16:08 PM=20 Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] massive simultaneous vms migrations ?=20 VDSM has the following config option:=20 # Maximum concurrent outgoing migrations=20 # max_outgoing_migrations =3D 2=20 On Tue, 2017-04-18 at 18:48 +0200, Nelson Lameiras wrote:=20 hello,=20 When putting a host on "maintenance mode", all vms start migrating to other= hosts.=20 We have some hosts that have 60 vms. So this will create a 60 vms migrating= simultaneously.=20 Some vms are under so much heavy loads that migration fails often (our gues= s is that massive simultaneous migrations does not help migration convergen= ce) - even with "suspend workload if needed" migraton policy.=20 - Does oVirt really launches 60 simultaneous migrations or is there a queui= ng system ?=20 - If there is a queuing system, is there a way to configure a maximum numbe= r of simultaneous migrations ?=20 I did see a "migration bandwidth limit", but this is quite what we are look= ing for.=20 my setup:=20 ovirt-engine +hosted engine 4.1.1=20 hosts : centos 7.3 fully updated.=20 for full context to understand this question : 2 times in the past, when tr= ying to put a host in maintenance, host stopped responding during massive m= igrations and was fenced by engine. It's still unclear why host stopped res= ponding, but we think that migrating 60+ vms simultaneously puts a heavy st= rain on storage ? So we would like to better control migration process in o= rder to better understand what's happening. This scenario is "production on= ly" since our labs do not contain nearly as much vm with such heavy loads. = So rather than trying to reproduce, we are trying to avoid ;)=20 cordialement, regards,=20 =09 =09 =09Nelson LAMEIRAS=20 =09Ing=C3=A9nieur Syst=C3=A8mes et R=C3=A9seaux / Systems and Networks engi= neer=20 =09Tel: +33 5 32 09 09 70=20 =09nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com=20 =09www.lyra-network.com | www.payzen.eu=20 =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 Lyra Network, 109 rue de l'innovation, 31670 Lab=C3=A8ge, FRANCE=20 _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/= users=20 ------=_Part_17958912_581886440.1492593291184 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_Part_17958913_1022873398.1492593291184" ------=_Part_17958913_1022873398.1492593291184 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-s= ize: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>hello pavel,<br></div><div><br data-mce-bog= us=3D"1"></div><div>Thanks for you answer.<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><d= iv>I did find this parameter (only) in /etc/vdsm/vdsm.conf.rpmnew (??)<br d= ata-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Paramete= r is commented with value 2 so my guess is that it is not used... So this b= rings a few more questions :<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mc= e-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>- Since parameter is commented, default value must= be used... can we be sure that 2 is default value?<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"=
</div><div>I do found strange that migrations are limited to 2, I have the= feeling that more than two are simultaneously being migrated (but I'm mayb= e wrong), how to be sure?<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-b= ogus=3D"1"></div><div data-marker=3D"__SIG_PRE__"><div>cordialement, regard= s,</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><table style=3D"margin: 0px; ta= ble-layout: fixed; border: none; width: 345pt; padding: 0px;" data-mce-styl= e=3D"margin: 0px; table-layout: fixed; border: none; width: 345pt; padding:= 0px;" width=3D"460" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0"><tbod= y><tr><td style=3D"margin: 0; font-size: 11px; font-family: Arial,sans-seri= f; color: #2b3c7a; line-height: 16px; width: 86.25pt; text-align: left;" da= ta-mce-style=3D"margin: 0; font-size: 11px; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; =
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<div><br> </div> <div>On Tue, 2017-04-18 at 18:48 +0200, Nelson Lameiras wrote:</div> <blockquote> <div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c= olor: #000000"> <div>hello,<br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div>When putting a host on "maintenance mode", all vms start migrating to = other hosts. </div> <div><br> </div> <div>We have some hosts that have 60 vms. So this will create a 60 vms migr= ating simultaneously.<br> </div> <div>Some vms are under so much heavy loads that migration fails often (our= guess is that massive simultaneous migrations does not help migration conv= ergence) - even with "suspend workload if needed" migraton policy.<br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div>- Does oVirt really launches 60 simultaneous migrations or is there a = queuing system ?<br> </div> <div>- If there is a queuing system, is there a way to configure a maximum = number of simultaneous migrations ?<br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div>I did see a "migration bandwidth limit", but this is quite what we are= looking for.<br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div>my setup:<br> </div> <div>ovirt-engine +hosted engine 4.1.1<br> </div> <div>hosts : centos 7.3 fully updated.<br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div> <div>for full context to understand this question : 2 times in the past, wh= en trying to put a host in maintenance, host stopped responding during mass= ive migrations and was fenced by engine. It's still unclear why host stoppe= d responding, but we think that migrating 60+ vms simultaneously puts a heavy strain on storage ? So we wo= uld like to better control migration process in order to better understand = what's happening. This scenario is "production only" since our labs do not = contain nearly as much vm with such heavy loads. So rather than trying to reproduce, we are trying to avoid ;)= <br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div>cordialement, regards,</div> <div><br> </div> <table style=3D"margin: 0px; table-layout: fixed; border: none; width: 345p= t; padding: 0px;" width=3D"460" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border= =3D"0"> <tbody> <tr> <td style=3D"margin: 0; font-size: 11px; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; col= or: #2b3c7a; line-height: 16px; width: 86.25pt; text-align: left;" width=3D= "115" valign=3D"top"> <a href=3D"https://www.lyra-network.com/" style=3D"border: none; text-decor= ation: none; width: 100%; display: block; clear: both;" target=3D"_blank"><= img src=3D"cid:1492535709.17056.4.camel@acronis.com" alt=3D"" width=3D"115"= height=3D"94" border=3D"0"></a><br> </td> <td style=3D"margin: 0; font-size: 11px; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; col= or: #2b3c7a; line-height: 16px; width: 258.75pt;" width=3D"345" valign=3D"t= op"> <table style=3D"margin: 0; width: 258.75pt; table-layout: fixed; border: no= ne;" width=3D"345" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0"> <tbody> <tr> <td style=3D"font-size: 16px; 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