Hi All, Just wondering if anyone could shed some light on an issue I'm seeing? I've followed the instructions on the wiki to try and get an ovirt setup running. (F17 minimal, updated, add repo, yum install ovirt-engine, engine-setup) All that seemed to go OK, and the database creation etc seemed to be fine, however starting the ovirt-engine service seems to have failed to start, was getting a http 503 error on trying the web interface. Looking deeper into it, it seems that jboss-as seems to be failing to start with some errors around logging. when I run systemctl start ovirt-engine.service i get the following in the logs: Feb 6 14:33:52 host1 engine-service.py[25212]: Started engine process 25213. Failed to configure handler FILE on Logger '' in context org.jboss.logmanager.LogContext@afc824e: Handler FILE has no class name Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError at org.jboss.as.server.Main.main(Main.java:73) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:57) at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43) at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:601) at org.jboss.modules.Module.run(Module.java:260) at org.jboss.modules.Main.main(Main.java:291) Caused by: java.lang.IllegalStateException: The LogManager was not properly installed (you must set the "java.util.logging.manager" system property to "org.jboss.logmanager.LogManager") at org.jboss.logmanager.Logger.getLogger(Logger.java:60) at org.jboss.logmanager.log4j.BridgeRepositorySelector.<clinit>(BridgeRepositorySelector.java:42) ... 7 more Feb 6 14:33:53 host1 systemd[1]: ovirt-engine.service: main process exited, code=exited, status=1 Feb 6 14:33:53 host1 engine-service.py[25230]: The engine PID file "/var/run/ovirt-engine.pid" contains 25213, but that process doesn't exist. Feb 6 14:33:53 host1 systemd[1]: ovirt-engine.service: control process exited, code=exited status=1 Feb 6 14:33:53 host1 systemd[1]: Unit ovirt-engine.service entered failed state. Any ideas? Thanks Jon