3:40 p.m.
Feel free to post patches to build oVirt on Fedora for example? What is
needed for it? Is it a big change? Can't we just support FC and CS if
the need is that high?
The SPICE argument is a non-issue imo, there are already some people
that rebuild the qemu packages for CS9 with SPICE enabled, which will
then just work on oVirt afaik.
Honestly, to me it looks like just another excuse to just not take
things into your own hands and start fixing things/work on the project.
Which I totally understand, but don't blame other things :)
On 21/07/2023 08:43, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
Il giorno gio 20 lug 2023 alle ore 20:36 Alex McWhirter
<alex(a)triadic.us> ha scritto:
Largely package / feature support. RHEL is clearly betting the
farm on OpenShift / OKD. Which is fine, but the decision to
depreciate / remove things in RHEL (spice qxl, gluster) are also
reflected in CentOS Stream. Even if you want to backport things to
Stream as rebuilds of old / existing packages to re-enable some of
those features you are now fighting a moving target. Would be
easier to target RHEL than Stream if that is the goal.
Fedora has no such depreciation of features, has a larger package
library, and more room to grow oVirt into something more
compelling. If the decision is made to base on CentOS Stream,
might aa well base on Fedora instead as neither is going to have
the full enterprise life cycle of RHEL and both will break things
here and there. At least with Fedora you don't have to maintain an
ever growing list of things to maintain to keep oVirt's feature
set in tact.
In short, targeting RHEL over Fedora made sense when CentOS
existed as a downstream rebuild, when RHV was a product still, and
when the entire oVirt feature set was supported by RHEL. None of
those things are true today, and instead of targeting a psuedo
RHEL where you still have to maintain a bunch of extra depreciated
packages without the lifecycle commitment, Fedora makes more sense
to me.
My two cents anyways, for my use case not having Gluster or spice
is a breaking change. While i wouldn't mind contributing to oVirt
here and there as needed if someone picks up the pieces, i don't
have the resources to also maintain the growing list of
depreciated / cut features in the base OS.
Ok, I understand the point.
You may consider opening a poll and ask the user community if they
would prefer to have less features and stay on CentOS Stream and
derivatives or if they would prefer more features and move to Fedora.
If there's enough consensus around the move, you can try to gather
some interest around it and get some help pushing for this change.
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