
On 1 Feb 2018, at 13:43, Harry Mallon <Harry.Mallon@codex.online> = wrote: =20 Apologies for the formatting in the following message, I can't get = Office for Mac to play ball... =20 =20 Harry Mallon CODEX | Senior Software Engineer 60 Poland Street | London | England | W1F 7NT E harry.mallon@codex.online <mailto:harry.mallon@codex.online> | T +44 = 203 7000 989 On 01/02/2018, 09:28, "Michal Skrivanek" <michal.skrivanek@redhat.com = <mailto:michal.skrivanek@redhat.com>> wrote:
On 31 Jan 2018, at 16:53, Yedidyah Bar David <didi@redhat.com = <mailto:didi@redhat.com>> wrote: =20 On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 5:43 PM, Harry Mallon = <Harry.Mallon@codex.online <mailto:Harry.Mallon@codex.online>> wrote:
Hello all, =20 Has anyone used oVirt with non-oVirt provided QEMU versions? I need a feature provided by upstream QEMU, but it is disabled in =
=20 just curious - which one? Typically the reason for disabling it is that it=E2=80=99s not = really stable =20 I am trying to run OSX guests on a host (Apple hardware). The = "applesmc" device is part of that puzzle and is disabled in the Red Hat = QEMU. =20
=20 I have two possible methods to avoid the issue: 1. Fedora has a more recent QEMU which is closer to 'stock'. I see =
--Apple-Mail=_4FDA5BC8-AC44-4FBB-91B5-5CB41C1331C7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 the oVirt/CentOS7 QEMU RPM. that oVirt 4.2 has no Fedora support,
=20 Indeed, mostly =20
but is it possible to install the host onto a Fedora machine? =20 Didn't try this recently, but it might require not-too-much work with fc25 or so. IIRC fc27 is python3-only, and this will require more work (which is ongoing, but don't hold your breath). =20 I am trying to use the master branch rpms as recommended in the "No = Fedora Support" note with no luck currently. =20 Another option is to try to rebuild the fedora srpm for CentOS 7. =20 2. Is it safe/sensible to use oVirt with a CentOS7 host running an = upstream QEMU version? =20 No idea. If it's only for development/testing, I'd say give it a try. =20 it=E2=80=99s as sensible as running any bleeding edge stuff. It = should work if you manage to resolve qemu deps =20 you could also rebuild qemu-kvm-ev without the patch which = blacklists the feature you want to see. =20 I was able to patch and rebuild qemu-kvm-ev, but I think I have hit = more problems using the patched firmware from here: = http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~somlo/OSXKVM/ = <http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~somlo/OSXKVM/>. Hopefully that gets = me a little closer though. Getting these mac VMs to work has so far been = a huge pain.
I did try that couple years ago, it did work eventually, but I wasn=E2=80=99= t able to get accelerated graphics and without that it was kind of = useless
=20 Thanks, michal
=20
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widows: auto; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D"">On 31 Jan 2018, at 16:53, = Yedidyah Bar David <<a href=3D"mailto:didi@redhat.com" = class=3D"">didi@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">On = Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 5:43 PM, Harry Mallon <<a = href=3D"mailto:Harry.Mallon@codex.online" = class=3D"">Harry.Mallon@codex.online</a>> wrote:<br = class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">Hello all,<br = class=3D""><br class=3D"">Has anyone used oVirt with non-oVirt provided = QEMU versions?<br class=3D"">I need a feature provided by upstream QEMU, = but it is disabled in the oVirt/CentOS7 QEMU RPM.<br = class=3D""></blockquote></blockquote><br style=3D"font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = display: inline !important;" class=3D""> just curious - = which one?</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; = font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: = inline !important;" class=3D""> Typically the reason = for disabling it is that it=E2=80=99s not really stable</span><br = style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br= style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" = class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; = font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline = !important;" class=3D"">I am trying to run OSX guests on a host (Apple = hardware). The "applesmc" device is part of that puzzle and is disabled = in the Red Hat QEMU.</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br = style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" = class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" = class=3D""><br class=3D"">I have two possible methods to avoid the = issue:<br class=3D"">1. Fedora has a more recent QEMU which is closer to = 'stock'. I see that oVirt 4.2 has no Fedora support,<br = class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">Indeed, mostly<br class=3D""><br = class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">but is it possible to = install the host onto a Fedora machine?<br class=3D""></blockquote><br = class=3D"">Didn't try this recently, but it might require not-too-much = work with<br class=3D"">fc25 or so.<br class=3D"">IIRC fc27 is = python3-only, and this will require more work (which is<br = class=3D"">ongoing, but<br class=3D"">don't hold your breath).<br = class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">I am = trying to use the master branch rpms as recommended in the "No Fedora = Support" note with no luck currently.<br class=3D""></blockquote><br = class=3D"">Another option is to try to rebuild the fedora srpm for = CentOS 7.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" = class=3D"">2. Is it safe/sensible to use oVirt with a CentOS7 host = running an upstream QEMU version?<br class=3D""></blockquote><br = class=3D"">No idea. If it's only for development/testing, I'd say give = it a try.<br class=3D""></blockquote><br style=3D"font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = display: inline !important;" class=3D""> it=E2=80=99s = as sensible as running any bleeding edge stuff. It should work if you = manage to resolve qemu deps</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br = style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" = class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; = font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline = !important;" class=3D""> you could also rebuild = qemu-kvm-ev without the patch which blacklists the feature you want to = see.</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; = font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = display: inline !important;" class=3D"">I was able to patch and rebuild = qemu-kvm-ev, but I think I have hit more problems using the patched = firmware from here:<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a = href=3D"http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~somlo/OSXKVM/" = style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: = none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" = class=3D"">http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~somlo/OSXKVM/</a><span = style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = display: inline !important;" class=3D"">. Hopefully that gets me a = little closer though. Getting these mac VMs to work has so far been a = huge pain.</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; = font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br = class=3D""></div>I did try that couple years ago, it did work = eventually, but I wasn=E2=80=99t able to get accelerated graphics and = without that it was kind of useless</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote = type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = display: inline !important;" = class=3D""> Thanks,</span><br style=3D"font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span = style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; = display: inline !important;" class=3D""> michal</span><br= style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" = class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote = type=3D"cite" class=3D""><br class=3D"">Thanks,<br class=3D"">Harry<br = class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Harry Mallon<br class=3D"">CODEX = | Senior Software Engineer<br class=3D"">60 Poland Street | London | = England | W1F 7NT<br class=3D"">E <a = href=3D"mailto:harry.mallon@codex.online" = class=3D"">harry.mallon@codex.online</a> | T +44 203 7000 989<br = class=3D"">_______________________________________________<br = class=3D"">Users mailing list<br class=3D""><a = href=3D"mailto:Users@ovirt.org" class=3D"">Users@ovirt.org</a><br = class=3D"">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users<br = class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">--<br= class=3D"">Didi<br = class=3D"">_______________________________________________<br = class=3D"">Users mailing list<br class=3D""><a = href=3D"mailto:Users@ovirt.org" class=3D"">Users@ovirt.org</a><br = class=3D"">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users<br class=3D""><br= class=3D""><br class=3D""></blockquote><br style=3D"font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><br = style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" = class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; = font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline = !important;" class=3D"">Harry</span></div></blockquote></div><br = class=3D""></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_4FDA5BC8-AC44-4FBB-91B5-5CB41C1331C7--