
On 09/20/2012 04:36 PM, users-request@ovirt.org wrote:
On 20.09.2012 16:01, Itamar Heim wrote:
>Power management is configured for both nodes. But this might be the >problem: we use the integrated IPMI over LAN power management - and >if I pull the plug on the machine the power management becomes un- >available, too. > >Could this be the problem?
yes... no auto recovery if can't verify node was fenced. for your tests, maybe power off the machine for your tests as opposed to "no power"?
Ugh, this is ugly. I'm evaluating oVirt currently myself and have already suffered from a dead PSU that took down IPMI as well. I really don't want to imagine what happens if the host with SPM goes down due to a power failure :/ Is there really no other way? I guess multiple fence devices are not possible right now. E.g. first try to fence via IPMI and if that fails pull the plug via APC MasterSwitch. Any thoughts? SPM would be down until you manually confirm shutdown in this case. SPM doesn't affect running VMs on NFS/posix/local domains, and only
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 17:13:25 +0300 From: Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com> To: patrick.hurrelmann@lobster.de Cc: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] SPM not selected after host failed Message-ID: <505B2485.9080604@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed On 09/20/2012 05:09 PM, Patrick Hurrelmann wrote: thinly provisioned VMs on block storage (iscsi/FC).
question, if no power, would the APC still work? why not just use it to fence instead of IPMI?
(and helping us close the gap on support for multiple fence devices would be great)
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Message: 8 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:24:47 +0200 From: Patrick Hurrelmann<patrick.hurrelmann@lobster.de> To:users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] SPM not selected after host failed Message-ID:<505B272F.7000301@lobster.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15
On 20.09.2012 16:13, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 09/20/2012 05:09 PM, Patrick Hurrelmann wrote:
On 20.09.2012 16:01, Itamar Heim wrote:
>>>Power management is configured for both nodes. But this might be the >>>problem: we use the integrated IPMI over LAN power management - and >>>if I pull the plug on the machine the power management becomes un- >>>available, too. >>> >>>Could this be the problem? > >yes... no auto recovery if can't verify node was fenced. >for your tests, maybe power off the machine for your tests as opposed to >"no power"?
Ugh, this is ugly. I'm evaluating oVirt currently myself and have already suffered from a dead PSU that took down IPMI as well. I really don't want to imagine what happens if the host with SPM goes down due to a power failure :/ Is there really no other way? I guess multiple fence devices are not possible right now. E.g. first try to fence via IPMI and if that fails pull the plug via APC MasterSwitch. Any thoughts?
SPM would be down until you manually confirm shutdown in this case. SPM doesn't affect running VMs on NFS/posix/local domains, and only thinly provisioned VMs on block storage (iscsi/FC).
question, if no power, would the APC still work? why not just use it to fence instead of IPMI?
(and helping us close the gap on support for multiple fence devices would be great)
Ok, maybe I wasn't precise enough. With power failure I actually meant a broken PSU on the server and I won't be running any local/NFS storage but only iSCSI. But you're right with your point that in such situation fencing via APC would be sufficient. I was mixing my different environments. My lab only has IPMI right now, while the live environment most likely will have APC as well.
Regards Patrick We don't have an APC, but we have dual psu's on two independent power feeds with independent backup power. Would we be sufficiently protected?
-- Kind Regards, Netbulae Jorick Astrego