On 01/20/2014 11:53 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 05:06:13PM +0100, Sander Grendelman wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Itamar Heim <iheim(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>> I see a lot of threads about v2v pains (mostly from ESX?)
>>
>> I'm interested to see if we can make this simpler/easier.
> hear hear!
>
>>
>> if you have experience with this, please describe the steps you are using
>> (also the source platform),
>
> Sources:
> - Existing KVM (virt-manager/libvirt) platform
> - ESX
> - ova/ovf templates from several sources
>
> Methods:
> - KVM:
> virt-v2v with libvirtxml option, works reasonably well, most issues
> are with windows guests where virt-v2v needs libguestfs-winsupport and
> virtio-win (RHEL only)
> - ESX:
> virt-v2v which works reasonably well _if_ the right packages
> (libguestfs-winsupport virtio-win) are installed.
> virt-v2v can be used directly from ESX/ESX host (configure .netrc
> first) but this is quite slow
> another option is to export the VM as an OVA and then import it with virt-v2v
> - ova/ovf templates:
> hit and miss with virt-v2v, especially if they contain something
> that is not a regular windows/linux guest.
> Another option is to do a direct copy of the disks on a pre-created
> VM, clumsy.
>
>> and how you would like to see this make simpler
>> (I'm assuming that would start from somewhere in the webadmin probably).
>
> Webadmin would be nice, but better behaviour from existing tools would be
> a nice start too.
>
> For example: the flow with virt-v2v is
> 1) Analyze source, look for disks
> 2) Convert/copy disks to ovirt export domain
> 3) Try to add virtio stuff to the copied disks on the export domain
>
> If step 3 fails ( which happens a LOT), the copied disks are removed.
> This is very frustrating if you just waited a couple of hours for a large
> VM (e.g. 200GB) to be copied :(
>
> Some kind of graceful abort/resume would be VERY welcome.
The above basically come down to the fact that currently virt-v2v does
the copy first and the v2v step second. It was my understanding
[Matt?] that guestconv is supposed to do the v2v step first followed
by the copy, which should solve all of that.
would we focus on integrating with guestconv? how different from
virt-v2v from integration perspective?
> Another issue with virt-v2v is that it _always_ tries to add virtio
> drivers. I have a virtual appliance that contains some kind of
> proprietary embedded OS: adding drivers will always fail, give me
> some option to override that and configure simple ide / e1000
> hardware for the VM
I suspect in this case what you really should be doing is just copying
the source disk image, without using virt-v2v at all.
Rich.