On 12/05/2012 11:50 AM, Roy Golan wrote:
On 12/05/2012 11:01 AM, Yair Zaslavsky wrote:
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From: "Dennis Böck" <dennis@webdienstleistungen.com> To: "Itamar Heim" <iheim@redhat.com> Cc: "users@oVirt.org" <users@ovirt.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 10:48:58 AM Subject: Re: [Users] Manage users without Red Hat Directory Server or IBM Tivoli Directory Server?
Dear Itamar,
we (German Air Navigation Services) would like to use oVirt for testing our air traffic applications. In our air traffic application system, there is no directory service, since we don't need one. Consequently our test system has no directory service too. We differentiate only between root-users (manage the OS), air traffic application operational-users and air traffic application technical-users. For three kinds of users a directory service would mean too much overhead. oVirt is complex enough, therefore it would be advantegous to have a simple user-management without the need to install/configure/run a directory service infrastructure.
Best regards Dennis Hi Dennis, From what you're describing - you have to populate oVirt somehow with 3 groups - root-users, air trafdfic application operational-users and air traffic application technical-users.
Not sure if you have technical developers at your organization, but at past we developed an internal broker [1] which is not Ldap/Directory-Service based. We have future thoughts about supporting not just directory services. But for now - perhaps the quickest thing for you guys (if you have a technical team of developers) is to write your own broker, similar to the internal broker). I actually saw a non ldap broker that was implemented based on the way the internal broker was implemented. But I really think you should reconsider your decision NOT to use ldap directory-service
[1] - Internal broker - the piece of code responsible for the admin@interal user
Yair
I feel that we do need a plain and simple user management broker (could be file based similar to jboss user/group properties). Dennis concerns about the time/money to invest in an up & running installation with few groups seems just.
we can make /etc/ovirt-engine/user-management/users.properties and group.properties
users.properties:
#key could be considered as the DN
user1.name=Dennis user1.id={UUID} user1.groupids={admins group id},{others} user1.pass=plaintext
group properties:
admins.id={UUID} admins.desc=some description
there are enough implementations for these things, we don't need to invent our own.
________________________________________ Von: Itamar Heim [iheim@redhat.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. Dezember 2012 00:44 An: Dennis Böck Cc: users@oVirt.org Betreff: Re: [Users] Manage users without Red Hat Directory Server or IBM Tivoli Directory Server?
On 12/03/2012 08:51 AM, Dennis Böck wrote:
Dear oVirt-Community,
how can I add a new User? If I click “Add” under the “Users”-Tag of the web interface, I cannot create a new user. If I start a search, only the user “admin” is displayed.
Is it maybe not possible to create users out of oVirt?
Even users which I added locally (on the fedora host which runs the ovirt engine) are not displayed.
Can you only manage users if oVirt is connected to a Red Hat Directory Server or IBM Tivoli Directory Server?
can you please explain the use case where there is no existing directory to handle group membership and authentication?
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