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On 12/29/2014 12=3A56 AM=2C Dan Kenigsberg wrote=3A
=3E On Fri=2C Dec 26=2C 2014 at 12=3A39=3A45PM -0600=2C Blaster wrote=3A
=3E=3E On 12/23/2014 2=3A55 AM=2C Dan Kenigsberg wrote=3A
=3E=3E=3E Bug 1094842 - Bonding modes 0=2C 5 and 6 should be avoided for VM=
networks
=3E=3E=3E https=3A//bugzilla=2Eredhat=2Ecom/show=5Fbug=2Ecgi=3Fid=3D1094842=
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=3E=3E Dan=2C
=3E=3E
=3E=3E What is bad about these modes that oVirt can=27t use them=3F
=3E I can only quote jpirko=27s workds from the link above=3A
=3E
=3E Do not use tlb or alb in bridge=2C never! It does not work=2C that=
=27s it=2E The reason
=3E is it mangles source macs in xmit frames and arps=2E When it is pos=
sible=2C just
=3E use mode 4 =28lacp=29=2E That should be always possible because all=
enterprise
=3E switches support that=2E Generally=2C for 99=25 of use cases=2C you=
*should* use mode
=3E 4=2E There is no reason to use other modes=2E
=3E
This switch is more of an office switch and only supports part of the
802=2E3ad standard=3A
PowerConnect* *2824
Scalable from small workgroups to dense access solutions=2C the 2824
offers 24-port flexibility plus two combo small=E2=80=91form=E2=80=91fa=
ctor
pluggable =28SFP=29 ports for connecting the switch to other networking=
equipment located beyond the 100 m distance limitations of copper
cabling=2E
Industry-standard link aggregation adhering to IEEE 802=2E3ad
standards =28static support only=2C LACP not supported=29
So the only way to have some kind of bonding without buying more
expensive switches=2C is using balance-rr =28mode=3D0=29=2C balance-xor=20=
=28mode=3D2=29
or broadcast =28modes=3D3=29=2E
=3E=3E I just tested mode 4=2C and the LACP with Fedora 20 appears to not b=
e
=3E=3E compatible with the LAG mode on my Dell 2824=2E
=3E=3E
=3E=3E Would there be any issues with bringing two NICS into the VM and doi=
ng
=3E=3E balance-alb at the guest level=3F
=3E=3E
Kind regards=2C
Jorick Astrego
Met vriendelijke groet=2C With kind regards=2C
Jorick Astrego
Netbulae Virtualization Experts=20
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