
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070303050007040904030204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/29/2014 12=3A56 AM=2C Dan Kenigsberg wrote=3A =3E On Fri=2C Dec 26=2C 2014 at 12=3A39=3A45PM -0600=2C Blaster wrote=3A =3E=3E On 12/23/2014 2=3A55 AM=2C Dan Kenigsberg wrote=3A =3E=3E=3E Bug 1094842 - Bonding modes 0=2C 5 and 6 should be avoided for VM= networks =3E=3E=3E https=3A//bugzilla=2Eredhat=2Ecom/show=5Fbug=2Ecgi=3Fid=3D1094842= =23c0 =3E=3E Dan=2C =3E=3E =3E=3E What is bad about these modes that oVirt can=27t use them=3F =3E I can only quote jpirko=27s workds from the link above=3A =3E =3E Do not use tlb or alb in bridge=2C never! It does not work=2C that= =27s it=2E The reason =3E is it mangles source macs in xmit frames and arps=2E When it is pos= sible=2C just =3E use mode 4 =28lacp=29=2E That should be always possible because all= enterprise =3E switches support that=2E Generally=2C for 99=25 of use cases=2C you= *should* use mode =3E 4=2E There is no reason to use other modes=2E =3E This switch is more of an office switch and only supports part of the 802=2E3ad standard=3A PowerConnect* *2824 Scalable from small workgroups to dense access solutions=2C the 2824 offers 24-port flexibility plus two combo small=E2=80=91form=E2=80=91fa= ctor pluggable =28SFP=29 ports for connecting the switch to other networking= equipment located beyond the 100 m distance limitations of copper cabling=2E Industry-standard link aggregation adhering to IEEE 802=2E3ad standards =28static support only=2C LACP not supported=29 So the only way to have some kind of bonding without buying more expensive switches=2C is using balance-rr =28mode=3D0=29=2C balance-xor=20= =28mode=3D2=29 or broadcast =28modes=3D3=29=2E =3E=3E I just tested mode 4=2C and the LACP with Fedora 20 appears to not b= e =3E=3E compatible with the LAG mode on my Dell 2824=2E =3E=3E =3E=3E Would there be any issues with bringing two NICS into the VM and doi= ng =3E=3E balance-alb at the guest level=3F =3E=3E Kind regards=2C Jorick Astrego Met vriendelijke groet=2C With kind regards=2C Jorick Astrego Netbulae Virtualization Experts=20 ---------------- =09Tel=3A 053 20 30 270 =09info=40netbulae=2Eeu =09Staalsteden 4-3A =09KvK= 08198180 =09Fax=3A 053 20 30 271 =09www=2Enetbulae=2Eeu =097547 TA Enschede =09BTW= NL821234584B01 ---------------- --------------070303050007040904030204 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =3Chtml=3E =3Chead=3E =3Cmeta content=3D=22text/html=3B charset=3DUTF-8=22 http-equiv=3D=22Co= ntent-Type=22=3E =3C/head=3E =3Cbody bgcolor=3D=22=23FFFFFF=22 text=3D=22=23000000=22=3E =3Cbr=3E =3Cdiv class=3D=22moz-cite-prefix=22=3EOn 12/29/2014 12=3A56 AM=2C Dan= Kenigsberg wrote=3A=3Cbr=3E =3C/div=3E =3Cblockquote cite=3D=22mid=3A20141228235658=2EGE21690=40redhat=2Ecom= =22 type=3D=22cite=22=3E =3Cpre wrap=3D=22=22=3EOn Fri=2C Dec 26=2C 2014 at 12=3A39=3A45PM -06= 00=2C Blaster wrote=3A =3C/pre=3E =3Cblockquote type=3D=22cite=22=3E =3Cpre wrap=3D=22=22=3EOn 12/23/2014 2=3A55 AM=2C Dan Kenigsberg wr= ote=3A =3C/pre=3E =3Cblockquote type=3D=22cite=22=3E =3Cpre wrap=3D=22=22=3EBug 1094842 - Bonding modes 0=2C 5 and 6 s= hould be avoided for VM networks =3Ca class=3D=22moz-txt-link-freetext=22 href=3D=22https=3A//bugzilla=2Ered= hat=2Ecom/show=5Fbug=2Ecgi=3Fid=3D1094842=23c0=22=3Ehttps=3A//bugzilla=2Ere= dhat=2Ecom/show=5Fbug=2Ecgi=3Fid=3D1094842=23c0=3C/a=3E =3C/pre=3E =3C/blockquote=3E =3Cpre wrap=3D=22=22=3E Dan=2C What is bad about these modes that oVirt can=27t use them=3F =3C/pre=3E =3C/blockquote=3E =3Cpre wrap=3D=22=22=3E I can only quote jpirko=27s workds from the link above=3A Do not use tlb or alb in bridge=2C never! 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