On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Karli Sjöberg <Karli.Sjoberg(a)slu.se>
wrote:
sön 2013-06-23 klockan 09:38 +0003 skrev Alex Lourie: Hi Karli
>
> I've written up all we know at [1], please try to follow it (if you
> haven't yet) and let us know how it goes. If anything goes wrong, we
> will look for the ways to resolve it.
>
Hi Alex!
Awesome job, I´m going to test this right away and let you know how
it goes. Wish me luck;)
/Karli
>
> Alex.
>
> [
1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.1_to_3.2_upgrade
>
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Alex Lourie <alourie(a)redhat.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Karli
> >
> > I am reviewing all the actions again, and hopefully will have
> > something
> > documented on Sunday.
> >
> > Alex.
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Karli Sjöberg
> > <Karli.Sjoberg(a)slu.se>
> > wrote:
> > > tis 2013-06-18 klockan 10:06 +0300 skrev Moran Goldboim: On
> > > 06/17/2013 02:51 PM, Karli Sjöberg wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > > mån 2013-06-17 klockan 10:11 +0003 skrev Alex Lourie: On
> Fri,
> > > Jun 14, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Karli Sjöberg <Karli.Sjoberg(a)slu.se>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>> > Hi!
> > >>>> >
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi Karli,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > More than two months have passed without any notices or
> > updates
> > >>>> on
> > >>>> > this issue, and looking at the bugreport absolutely
nothing
> > has
> > >>>> been
> > >>>> > done since then. What´s confusing me is that the release
> > >>>> management
> > >>>> > for oVirt 3.2 has this clearly printed:
> > >>>> > "MUST: Upgrade from previous release"
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > And you all seem too busy with getting the next release
out
> of
> > >>>> the
> > >>>> > door before fixing the current... What gives? Don´t you
> care
> > >>>> about
> > >>>> > early adopters?
> > >>>> >
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I apologise that this issue wasn't taken care of yet. It is
> > clear
> > >>>> that
> > >>>> the priorities of developers shifted towards work on features
> in
> > >>>> 3.3
> > >>>> release, which feature freeze is happening in about 2 weeks,
> so
> > >>>> you can
> > >>>> understand the time pressure they all have. There's no need
> to
> > be
> > >>>> angry
> > >>>> about that. It is an open source project and as resources for
> > the
> > >>>> development are limited, we're trying to do our best to
cover
> as
> > >>>> much
> > >>>> issues as possible. This can lead to situations as this
> issue,
> > >>>> which
> > >>>> may be left behind for some time.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I´m not angry, as I stated before, I´m more confused, and
> maybe
> > a
> > >>> little disappointed that important(in my opinion) pieces of a
> > >>> projects continuum have been ignored like that. I´m having a
> > hard
> > >>> time understanding the reasoning behind the priorities that
> have
> > >>> made this issue appear. In my mind, making sure that users of
> any
> > >>> project are able to follow between minor upgrades is a given,
> > with
> > >>> a schedule like; 1) Feature freeze, 2) Fix release blockers
> > >>> (upgrading being one of them), 3) Release, in that order. Now
> > >>> what´s happening is that you are kind of hoping to drag this
> out
> > >>> until the problem goes away by itself when you decide it´s
> time
> > to
> > >>> stop supporting 3.1.
> > >>>
> > >>>> That said, the process for upgrading the oVirt 3.1 on Fedora
> 17
> > to
> > >>>> oVirt 3.2 on Fedora 18 is complex and non-trivial, that's
why
> it
> > >>>> is
> > >>>> taking time to resolve all the issues that come up in the
> > process.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If this matter is not extremely urgent, we are currently
> working
> > >>>> on a
> > >>>> tool that may make this upgrade easier, albeit, maybe, not
> > >>>> completely
> > >>>> automatic.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On the other hand, if this is a completely and utterly
> urgent,
> > we
> > >>>> may
> > >>>> try to guide you through possible manual attempts to perform
> the
> > >>>> upgrade. Mind though, that they weren't thoroughly tested,
> and
> > not
> > >>>> promised to go smoothly or even work, and we may have to
> think
> > >>>> about
> > >>>> possible alternative solutions on the go.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Straight answer: Am I ever going to be able to upgrade from
> 3.1
> > to
> > >>> 3.2?
> > >>>
> > >>> My concern (fear) is about being left behind, abandoned. It
> makes
> > >>> me feel non-important. Just like any admin, the work put down
> to
> > >>> make Templates, to set up quotas, create VMPools, a dozen of
> > >>> guests. And then have to export everything (nullifying the
> idea
> > of
> > >>> "Thin Provisioning"), redo every Role, reset every
permission,
> > >>> quota, and so on, isn´t (in my opinion) viable in the long
> run
> > for
> > >>> oVirt as a project to demand. That´s why I had the notion
> that
> > >>> upgrading surely had to be a high priority. Was I wrong about
> > that?
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> upgrade actually was high priority task, but due to lots of
> > platform
> > >> (fedora 18) changes, it became a huge operation to support it
> > (which
> > >> comes on top new features/bugs/support etc.).
> > >> in addition we have noticed that the interest from the
> community
> > >> regarding it, is very limited.
> > >>
> > >> from where i see i we have couple of options:
> > >> -if there is enough interest from the community we can give it
> > >> another go (though i think most of it moved long ago to oVirt
> 3.2)
> > >>
> > >
> > > You certainly have my interest at least;)
> > >
> > >> -we can help individuals by making a migration (3.1->3.2)
> document
> > >> on fedora base systems- we'll probably need your assistance on
> > >> testing side here
> > >>
> > >
> > > A document explaining how to upgrade would be completly
> acceptable
> > > for me. I´m not asking for a turnkey command that makes
> everything
> > > for me, I´ve managed to get quite far by myself any way. I
> would
> > > love to help testing the procedure, as I´ve stated before, we
> have
> > > set up a dedicated test environment dedicated for this specific
> > > upgrade task in mind, with engine, hosts and storage somewhat
> equal
> > > to the production system. Please, if there´s anything I can do
> to
> > > help, don´t hesitate to ask!
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Best regards,
> > >>>> Alex Lourie,
> > >>>> Software Developer in Integration,
> > >>>> RHEV, Red Hat.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > Best Regards
> > >>>> > Karli Sjöberg
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > fre 2013-04-05 klockan 10:24 +0200 skrev Sandro Bonazzola:
> Hi
> > >>>> Karli,
> > >>>> >> we're still working on it
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> Il 02/04/2013 12:22, Karli Sjöberg ha scritto:
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> > Hi,
> > >>>> >>>
> > >>>> >>> has there been any progress regarding this
matter?
> > >>>> >>>
> > >>>> >>> Best Regards
> > >>>> >>> Karli Sjöberg
> > >>>> >>>
> > >>>> >>> fre 2013-03-15 klockan 14:12 +0000 skrev Karli
Sjöberg:
> > >>>> >>>> fre 2013-03-15 klockan 14:59 +0100 skrev
Sandro
> Bonazzola:
> > >>>> >>>>> Il 13/03/2013 12:24, Karli Sjöberg ha
scritto:
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>>> ons 2013-03-13 klockan 12:00 +0100
skrev Dave Neary:
> Hi
> > >>>> Karli,
> > >>>> >>>>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>>>> On 03/11/2013 12:16 PM, Karli
Sjöberg wrote:
> > >>>> >>>>>>> > Hi,
> > >>>> >>>>>>> >
> > >>>> >>>>>>> > in the absence of any
official path, we have
> started
> > >>>> working
> > >>>> >>>>>>> out our own
> > >>>> >>>>>>> > procedure for going from
oVirt-3.1/Fedora 17 to
> > >>>> >>>>>>> oVirt-3.2/Fedora 18.
> > >>>> >>>>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>>>> Indeed, I have not seen any
documentation in the wiki
> > yet
> > >>>> on
> > >>>> >>>>>>> upgrading
> > >>>> >>>>>>> oVirt - would you be interested in
writing up your
> > >>>> experiences
> > >>>> >>>>>>> there as
> > >>>> >>>>>>> a guide to others?
> > >>>> >>>>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>>>> Thanks!
> > >>>> >>>>>>> Dave.
> > >>>> >>>>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>>> That was my intention to share a
working procedure
> once
> > it
> > >>>> was
> > >>>> >>>>>> complete but I unfortunately hit a
wall at
> > >>>> "engine-upgrade". I
> > >>>> >>>>>> would be very glad, and able to
continue, if that
> > obstacle
> > >>>> could
> > >>>> >>>>>> be lifted.
> > >>>> >>>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>> My experience in upgrading from
oVirt-3.1/Fedora 17 to
> > >>>> >>>>> oVirt-3.2/Fedora 18:
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>> On Fedora 17:
> > >>>> >>>>> Be sure to have the latest updates
running: yum
> distro-sync
> > >>>> >>>>> Set exclude=ovirt* in /etc/yum.conf
> > >>>> >>>>> Execute: fedup --disablerepo=ovirt*
--network 18
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>> When you have a running Fedora 18:
> > >>>> >>>>> # systemctl list-units --failed
> > >>>> >>>>> UNIT LOAD ACTIVE SUB
DESCRIPTION
> > >>>> >>>>> httpd.service loaded failed failed
The Apache HTTP
> > >>>> Server
> > >>>> >>>>> postgresql.service loaded failed failed
PostgreSQL
> > database
> > >>>> server
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>> # systemctl stop postgresql.service
> > >>>> >>>>> # tar cJvf pgsql-backup.tar.xz
/var/lib/pgsql/data/
> > >>>> >>>>> # yum install postgresql-upgrade
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>> # cp /var/lib/pgsql/data/pg_hba.conf
> > /root/pg_hba.conf.ovirt
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>> edit /var/lib/pgsql/data/pg_hba.conf
changing md5 to
> trust
> > >>>> on the
> > >>>> >>>>> local line.
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>> # diff -u pg_hba.conf.ovirt pg_hba.conf
> > >>>> >>>>> --- pg_hba.conf.ovirt 2013-01-30
20:58:49.404000000
> +0100
> > >>>> >>>>> +++ pg_hba.conf 2013-01-30
20:59:06.709000000 +0100
> > >>>> >>>>> @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@
> > >>>> >>>>> # TYPE DATABASE USER
ADDRESS
>
> >
> > >>>>
> > >>>> >>>>> METHOD
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>> # "local" is for Unix domain
socket connections only
> > >>>> >>>>> -local all all
>
> >
> > >>>>
> > >>>> >>>>> md5
> > >>>> >>>>> +local all all
>
> >
> > >>>>
> > >>>> >>>>> trust
> > >>>> >>>>> # IPv4 local connections:
> > >>>> >>>>> host all all
127.0.0.1/32
>
> >
> > >>>>
> > >>>> >>>>> md5
> > >>>> >>>>> # IPv6 local connections:
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>> # postgresql-setup upgrade
> > >>>> >>>>> Redirecting to /bin/systemctl stop
postgresql.service
> > >>>> >>>>> Upgrading database: OK
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>> See /var/lib/pgsql/pgupgrade.log for
details.
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>> # cp /root/pg_hba.conf.ovirt
> > /var/lib/pgsql/data/pg_hba.conf
> > >>>> >>>>> # systemctl postgrsql.service restart
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>> edit /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf:
> > >>>> >>>>> # diff -u ssl.conf.ovirt ssl.conf
> > >>>> >>>>> --- ssl.conf.ovirt 2013-01-30
21:21:06.906000000 +0100
> > >>>> >>>>> +++ ssl.conf 2013-01-30 21:22:02.757000000
+0100
> > >>>> >>>>> @@ -9,7 +9,7 @@
> > >>>> >>>>> # consult the online docs. You have been
warned.
> > >>>> >>>>> #
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>> -LoadModule ssl_module modules/mod_ssl.so
> > >>>> >>>>> +#LoadModule ssl_module
modules/mod_ssl.so
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>> #
> > >>>> >>>>> # When we also provide SSL we have to
listen to the
> > >>>> >>>>> @@ -40,7 +40,7 @@
> > >>>> >>>>> # Semaphore:
> > >>>> >>>>> # Configure the path to the mutual
exclusion
> semaphore
> > the
> > >>>> >>>>> # SSL engine uses internally for
inter-process
> > >>>> >>>>> synchronization.
> > >>>> >>>>> -SSLMutex default
> > >>>> >>>>> +#SSLMutex default
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>> # Pseudo Random Number Generator
(PRNG):
> > >>>> >>>>> # Configure one or more sources to seed
the PRNG of
> the
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>> # /bin/systemctl restart httpd.service
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>> Remove the line exclude=ovirt* from
/etc/yum.conf
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>> # yum update ovirt-engine-setup
> > >>>> >>>>> # engine-upgrade
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>> However, during the upgrade I've
stepped into
> > >>>> >>>>>
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=906270
> > >>>> >>>>> We are still working on the upgrade
actions.
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>> Our procedures looks almost exactly the same,
and we
> have
> > >>>> gotten
> > >>>> >>>> just as far as you have. Good to know.
> > >>>> >>>>
> > >>>> >>>> /Karli
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>>
> > >>>> >>>>
> > >>>> >>>>
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> --
> > >>>> >> Sandro Bonazzola
> > >>>> >> Better technology. Faster innovation. Powered by
community
> > >>>> >> collaboration.
> > >>>> >> See how it works at
redhat.com
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > --
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > Med Vänliga Hälsningar
> > >>>> >
> > >>>>
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>> > Karli Sjöberg
> > >>>> > Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences
> > >>>> > Box 7079 (Visiting Address Kronåsvägen 8)
> > >>>> > S-750 07 Uppsala, Sweden
> > >>>> > Phone: +46-(0)18-67 15 66
> > >>>> > karli.sjoberg(a)slu.se
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>>
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> > >>> Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences
> > >>> Box 7079 (Visiting Address Kronåsvägen 8)
> > >>> S-750 07 Uppsala, Sweden
> > >>> Phone: +46-(0)18-67 15 66
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> > >>>
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Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences
Box 7079 (Visiting Address Kronåsvägen 8)
S-750 07 Uppsala, Sweden
Phone: +46-(0)18-67 15 66
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