6:06 p.m.
We had an incident where a VM hosts' disk filled up, the VMs all went
unknown in the web console, but were fully functional if you were to login
or use the services of one. We couldn't migrate them so we powered them
down on that host and powered them up and let ovirt choose the host for it,
same as always. However the disk image on a few of them were corrupted
because once we fixed the host with the full disk, it still thought it
should be running the VM. Which promptly corrupted the disk, the error
seems to be this in the logs:
2017-09-19 21:59:11,058 INFO
[org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.monitoring.VmAnalyzer]
(DefaultQuartzScheduler3) [36c806f6] VM
'70cf75c7-0fc2-4bbe-958e-7d0095f70960'(testhub) is running in db and not
running on VDS 'ef6dc2a3-af6e-4e00-aa4
0-493b31263417'(vm-int7)
We upgraded to 4.1.6 from 4.0.6 earlier in the day, I don't really think
it's anything more than coincidence, but it's worrying enough to send to
the community.
Regards,
Logan
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On 20 Sep 2017, at 18:06, Logan Kuhn
<support(a)jac-properties.com> =
wrote:
=20
We had an incident where a VM hosts' disk filled up, the VMs all went =
unknown
in the web console, but were fully functional if you were to =
login or use the services of one.
Hi,
yes, that can happen since the VM=E2=80=99s storage is on NAS whereas =
the server itself is non-functional as the management and all other =
local processes are using local resources
We couldn't migrate them so we powered them down on that host
and =
powered them up and let ovirt choose the host for it, same as always.=20
that=E2=80=99s a mistake. The host should be fenced in that case, you =
likely do not have a power management configured, do you? Even when you =
do not have a fencing device available it should have been resolved =
manually by rebooting it manually(after fixing the disk problem), or in =
case of permanent damage (e.g. server needs to be replaced, that takes a =
week, you need to run those VMs in the meantime elsewhere) it should =
have been powered off and VM states should be reset by =E2=80=9Cconfirm =
host has been rebooted=E2=80=9D manual action.
Normally you should now be able to run those VMs while the status of the =
host is still Not Responding - was it not the case? How exactly you get =
to the situation that you were able to power up the VMs?
However the disk image on a few of them were corrupted because once
we =
fixed the host with the full disk, it still thought it should be running =
the VM. Which promptly corrupted the disk, the error seems to be this =
in the logs:
this can only happen for VMs flagged as HA, is it a case?
Thanks,
michal
=20
2017-09-19 21:59:11,058 INFO =
[org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.monitoring.VmAnalyzer] =
(DefaultQuartzScheduler3) [36c806f6] VM =
'70cf75c7-0fc2-4bbe-958e-7d0095f70960'(testhub) is running in db and not =
running on VDS 'ef6dc2a3-af6e-4e00-aa4
0-493b31263417'(vm-int7)
=20
We upgraded to 4.1.6 from 4.0.6 earlier in the day, I don't really =
think
it's anything more than coincidence, but it's worrying enough to =
send to the community.
=20
Regards,
Logan
_______________________________________________
Users mailing list
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http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On 20 Sep 2017, at 18:06, Logan Kuhn <<a =
href=3D"mailto:support@jac-properties.com" =
class=3D"">support(a)jac-properties.com</a>&gt;
wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div
dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-size: 16px; =
background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253);" class=3D"">We had an incident =
where a VM hosts' disk filled up, the VMs all went unknown in the web =
console, but were fully functional if you were to login or use the =
services of one.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br
=
class=3D""></div><div>Hi,</div>yes, that can happen since
the VM=E2=80=99s=
storage is on NAS whereas the server itself is non-functional as the =
management and all other local processes are using local =
resources</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote
type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr"
class=3D""><div =
style=3D"font-family: arial; font-size: 16px; background-color: rgb(253, =
253, 253);" class=3D""> We couldn't migrate them so we
powered =
them down on that host and powered them up and let ovirt choose the host =
for it, same as
always. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br
=
class=3D""></div><div>that=E2=80=99s a mistake. The host should
be =
fenced in that case, you likely do not have a power management =
configured, do you? Even when you do not have a fencing device available =
it should have been resolved manually by rebooting it =
manually(after fixing the disk problem), or in case of permanent =
damage (e.g. server needs to be replaced, that takes a week, you need to =
run those VMs in the meantime elsewhere) it should have been powered off =
and VM states should be reset by =E2=80=9Cconfirm host has been =
rebooted=E2=80=9D manual action.</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>Normally you should now be able to run
those VMs =
while the status of the host is still Not Responding - was it not the =
case? How exactly you get to the situation that you were able to power =
up the VMs?</div><div><br
class=3D""></div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div=
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: arial;
font-size: =
16px; background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253);" class=3D""> However the =
disk image on a few of them were corrupted because once we fixed the =
host with the full disk, it still thought it should be running the =
VM. Which promptly corrupted the disk, the error seems to be this =
in the logs:</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br
class=3D""></div>this =
can only happen for VMs flagged as HA, is it a case?</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div><div>Thanks,</div><div>michal</div><div
=
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><blockquote
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div
style=3D"font-family: arial; =
font-size: 16px; background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253);"
class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-size:
16px; =
background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253);" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family:monospace" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"gmail-Object" id=3D"gmail-OBJ_PREFIX_DWT446_com_zimbra_date"
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style=3D"color:rgb(111,22,22)"><span class=3D"gmail-Object" =
id=3D"gmail-OBJ_PREFIX_DWT447_com_zimbra_date" style=3D"cursor: =
pointer;">2017-09-19</span></span> 21:59:11,058 INFO =
[org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.monitoring.VmAnalyzer] =
(DefaultQuartzScheduler3) [36c806f6] VM =
'70cf75c7-0fc2-4bbe-958e-7d0095f70960'(testhub) is </span><span
=
style=3D"font-weight:bold;color:rgb(255,84,84);background-color:rgb(255,25=
5,255)" class=3D"">running</span><span =
style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=3D""> in
db and =
not </span><span =
style=3D"font-weight:bold;color:rgb(255,84,84);background-color:rgb(255,25=
5,255)" class=3D"">running</span><span =
style=3D"background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=3D""> on
VDS =
'ef6dc2a3-af6e-4e00-aa4</span><br
class=3D"">0-493b31263417'(vm-int7)<br =
class=3D""></span></div><div style=3D"font-family: arial;
font-size: =
16px; background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253);" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-size:
16px; =
background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253);" class=3D"">We upgraded to 4.1.6
=
from 4.0.6 earlier in the day, I don't really think it's anything more =
than coincidence, but it's worrying enough to send to the =
community.</div><div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-size: 16px; =
background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253);" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-size:
16px; =
background-color: rgb(253, 253, 253);" class=3D"">Regards,<br =
class=3D"">Logan</div></div>
_______________________________________________<br class=3D"">Users =
mailing list<br class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:Users@ovirt.org"
=
class=3D"">Users(a)ovirt.org</a><br =
class=3D"">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users<br =
class=3D""></div></blockquote></div><br
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This matches about with what we were thinking, thank you!
To answer your questions
We do not have power management configured due to it causing a cascading fa=
ilure early in our deployment. The host was not fenced and "confirm host r=
ebooted" was never used. The VMs were powered on via virsh (this shouldn't=
have happened)
The way they were powered on is most likely why they were corrupted is our =
thought
Logan
On September 20, 2017 at 12:03 PM Michal Skrivanek
<michal.skrivanek@=
redhat.com> wrote:
=20
=20
=20
> > On 20 Sep 2017, at 18:06, Logan Kuhn <support@jac-pro=
perties.com mailto:support@jac-properties.com > wrote:
>=20
> We had an incident where a VM hosts' disk filled up, the VMs al=
l
went unknown in the web console, but were fully functional if you were to=
login or use the services of one.
>=20
> >=20
Hi,
yes, that can happen since the VM=E2=80=99s storage is on NAS whereas=
the
server itself is non-functional as the management and all other local =
processes are using local resources
=20
=20
> > We couldn't migrate them so we powered them down on=
that host and powered them up and let ovirt choose the host for it, same a=
s always.=20
>=20
> >=20
that=E2=80=99s a mistake. The host should be fenced in that case, you=
likely
do not have a power management configured, do you? Even when you do=
not have a fencing device available it should have been resolved manually =
by rebooting it manually(after fixing the disk problem), or in case of per=
manent damage (e.g. server needs to be replaced, that takes a week, you nee=
d to run those VMs in the meantime elsewhere) it should have been powered o=
ff and VM states should be reset by =E2=80=9Cconfirm host has been rebooted=
=E2=80=9D manual action.
=20
Normally you should now be able to run those VMs while the status of =
the host
is still Not Responding - was it not the case? How exactly you get=
to the situation that you were able to power up the VMs?
=20
=20
=20
> > However the disk image on a few of them were corrupte=
d
because once we fixed the host with the full disk, it still thought it sh=
ould be running the VM. Which promptly corrupted the disk, the error seems=
to be this in the logs:
>=20
> >=20
this can only happen for VMs flagged as HA, is it a case?
=20
Thanks,
michal
=20
=20
> >=20
> 2017-09-19 21:59:11,058 INFO [org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.=
monitoring.VmAnalyzer] (DefaultQuartzScheduler3) [36c806f6] VM '70cf75c7-0f=
c2-4bbe-958e-7d0095f70960'(testhub) is running in db and not running on VDS=
'ef6dc2a3-af6e-4e00-aa4
> 0-493b31263417'(vm-int7)
>=20
> We upgraded to 4.1.6 from 4.0.6 earlier in the day, I don't rea=
lly think it's anything more than coincidence, but it's worrying enough to
=
send to the community.
>=20
> Regards,
> Logan
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> Users(a)ovirt.org mailto:Users@ovirt.org
> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>=20
> >=20
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</head><body><p>This matches about with what we were thinking, thank
you!</=
p><p>To answer your questions</p><p>We do not have power management
configu=
red due to it causing a cascading failure early in our deployment.  Th=
e host was not fenced and "confirm host rebooted" was never used.&#=
160; The VMs were powered on via virsh (this shouldn't have happened)</=
p><p>The way they were powered on is most likely why they were corrupted is=
our thought</p><p><br></p><p>Logan</p><blockquote
type=3D"cite"><div id=3D=
"ox-3145df7df0" style=3D"word-wrap: break-word;"
class=3D"">On September 20=
, 2017 at 12:03 PM Michal Skrivanek &#60;michal.skrivanek(a)redhat.com&#62; w=
rote:<br><br><br class=3D""><div><blockquote
type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"">=
On 20 Sep 2017, at 18:06, Logan Kuhn <<a href=3D"mailto:support@jac-pro=
perties.com" class=3D"">support(a)jac-properties.com</a>&#62;
wrote:</div><br=
class=3D"ox-3145df7df0-Apple-interchange-newline"><div
class=3D""><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: arial;
font-size: 16px; back=
ground-color: #fdfdfd;" class=3D"">We had an incident where a VM
hosts'=
disk filled up, the VMs all went unknown in the web console, but were full=
y functional if you were to login or use the services of
one.</div></div></=
div></blockquote><div><br
class=3D""></div><div>Hi,</div>yes, that can happ=
en since the VM’s storage is on NAS whereas the server itself is non-=
functional as the management and all other local processes are using local =
resources</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote
type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"=
"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div
style=3D"font-family: arial; font-size: =
16px; background-color: #fdfdfd;" class=3D"">  We
couldn't migrate=
them so we powered them down on that host and powered them up and let ovir=
t choose the host for it, same as
always. </div></div></div></blockquo=
te><div><br class=3D""></div><div>that’s a
mistake. The host should b=
e fenced in that case, you likely do not have a power management configured=
, do you? Even when you do not have a fencing device available it should ha=
ve been resolved manually by rebooting it  manually(after fixing the d=
isk problem), or in case of permanent damage (e.g. server needs to be repla=
ced, that takes a week, you need to run those VMs in the meantime elsewhere=
) it should have been powered off and VM states should be reset by “c=
onfirm host has been rebooted” manual action.</div><div><br
class=3D"=
"></div><div>Normally you should now be able to run those VMs while
the sta=
tus of the host is still Not Responding - was it not the case? How exactly =
you get to the situation that you were able to power up the VMs?</div><div>=
<br class=3D""></div><div><br
class=3D""></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><d=
iv class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div
style=3D"font-family: arial;=
font-size: 16px; background-color: #fdfdfd;" class=3D"">However the
disk i=
mage on a few of them were corrupted because once we fixed the host with th=
e full disk, it still thought it should be running the VM.  Which prom=
ptly corrupted the disk, the error seems to be this in the logs:</div></div=
</div></blockquote><div><br
class=3D""></div>this can only happen for VMs =
flagged as HA, is
it a case?</div><div><br
class=3D""></div><div><div>Thank=
s,</div><div>michal</div><div class=3D""><br
class=3D""></div><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr"
class=3D""><div style=3D"font=
-family: arial; font-size: 16px; background-color: #fdfdfd;"
class=3D""><br=
class=3D""></div><div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-size:
16px; backgr=
ound-color: #fdfdfd;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family:
monospace;" cl=
ass=3D""><span style=3D"background-color: #ffffff;"
class=3D""><span class=
=3D"ox-3145df7df0-gmail-Object"
id=3D"ox-3145df7df0-gmail-OBJ_PREFIX_DWT446=
_com_zimbra_date" style=3D"color: #6f1616;"><span
class=3D"ox-3145df7df0-gm=
ail-Object" id=3D"ox-3145df7df0-gmail-OBJ_PREFIX_DWT447_com_zimbra_date"
st=
yle=3D"cursor:
pointer;">2017-09-19</span></span> 21:59:11,058 INFO &#=
160;[org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.monitoring.VmAnalyzer] (DefaultQuartzS=
cheduler3) [36c806f6] VM '70cf75c7-0fc2-4bbe-958e-7d0095f70960'(tes=
thub) is </span><span style=3D"font-weight: bold; color: #ff5454;
back=
ground-color: #ffffff;" class=3D"">running</span><span
style=3D"background-=
color: #ffffff;" class=3D""> in db and
not </span><span style=3D"=
font-weight: bold; color: #ff5454; background-color: #ffffff;"
class=3D"">r=
unning</span><span style=3D"background-color: #ffffff;"
class=3D""> on=
VDS 'ef6dc2a3-af6e-4e00-aa4</span><br
class=3D"">0-493b31263417'(v=
m-int7)<br class=3D""></span></div><div
style=3D"font-family: arial; font-s=
ize: 16px; background-color: #fdfdfd;" class=3D""><br
class=3D""></div><div=
style=3D"font-family: arial; font-size: 16px; background-color: #fdfdfd;" =
class=3D"">We upgraded to 4.1.6 from 4.0.6 earlier in the day, I
don't =
really think it's anything more than coincidence, but it's worrying=
enough to send to the community.</div><div style=3D"font-family: arial;
fo=
nt-size: 16px; background-color: #fdfdfd;" class=3D""><br
class=3D""></div>=
<div style=3D"font-family: arial; font-size: 16px; background-color: #fdfdf=
d;" class=3D"">Regards,<br
class=3D"">Logan</div></div>____________________=
___________________________<br class=3D"">Users mailing list<br
class=3D"">=
<a href=3D"mailto:Users@ovirt.org"
class=3D"">Users(a)ovirt.org</a><br class=
=3D"">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users<br
class=3D""></div></b=
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