Non-Operational state because management interfaces down

<html><bodyHi, I have 2-node ovirt "cluster". Both machines has 4 interfaces. 2 interfaces in bond1 for data 2 interfaces in bond0 for management (short connected directly between servers) switch0 -----\ /-----\ /----- switch0 node1 node2 switch1 -----/ \-----/ \----- switch1 I setup everything as I want/expect but I hit one problem and I don't know how to fix it. The problem is when I switch off one of the machines for maintenance (node01.ovirt in this case). I get in ovirt engine this message: Host node02.ovirt moved to Non-Operational state because interfaces which are down are needed by required networks in the current cluster: 'bond0 (ovirtmgmt)'. Do you have any idea how to avoid it? I can't change physical architecture as I don't have 10Gb switch. BTW it's the same as if I want to start with only 1 node and separated data and mgmt networks: switch ----- host --(not connected iface for mgmt as I don't need it) Thanks, Luf NOTICE: This email and any attachments may contain confidential and proprietary information of NetSuite Inc. and is for the sole use of the intended recipient for the stated purpose. Any improper use or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender; do not review, copy or distribute; and promptly delete or destroy all transmitted information. Please note that all communications and information transmitted through this email system may be monitored by NetSuite or its agents and that all incoming email is automatically scanned by a third party spam and filtering service </body></html>

------=_Part_3314311_1720272140.1415965379263 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,=20 Did you set your bond devices and IP addresses via ovirt's network manageme= nt, or by hand on the nodes?=20 In my experiences you need to set up ip addresses on the node's network int= erface via ovirt' management, because it won't working.=20 Tibor=20 ----- Eredeti =C3=BCzenet ----- > Hi, > I have 2-node ovirt "cluster". Both machines has 4 interfaces. > 2 interfaces in bond1 for data > 2 interfaces in bond0 for management (short connected directly between > servers) > switch0 -----\ /-----\ /----- switch0 > node1 node2 > switch1 -----/ \-----/ \----- switch1 > I setup everything as I want/expect but I hit one problem and I don't > know how to fix it. The problem is when I switch off one of the machines > for maintenance (node01.ovirt in this case). I get in ovirt engine this > message: > Host node02.ovirt moved to Non-Operational state because interfaces > which are down are needed by required networks in the current cluster: > 'bond0 (ovirtmgmt)'. > Do you have any idea how to avoid it? I can't change physical > architecture as I don't have 10Gb switch. > BTW it's the same as if I want to start with only 1 node and separated > data and mgmt networks: > switch ----- host --(not connected iface for mgmt as I don't need it) > Thanks, > Luf > NOTICE: This email and any attachments may contain confidential and > proprietary information of NetSuite Inc. and is for the sole use of the > intended recipient for the stated purpose. Any improper use or distributi= on > is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the > sender; do not review, copy or distribute; and promptly delete or destroy > all transmitted information. 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Both machines has 4 inter= faces.<br> 2 interfaces in bond1 for data<br> 2 interfaces in bond0 for man= agement (short connected directly between<br> servers)<br> <br> switch0 ---= --\ /-----\ /----- switch0<br> node1 node2<br> switch1 -----/ \-----/ \----= - switch1<br> <br> I setup everything as I want/expect but I hit one proble= m and I don't<br> know how to fix it. The problem is when I switch off one = of the machines<br> for maintenance (node01.ovirt in this case). I get in o= virt engine this<br> message:<br> <br> Host node02.ovirt moved to Non-Opera= tional state because interfaces<br> which are down are needed by required n= etworks in the current cluster:<br> 'bond0 (ovirtmgmt)'.<br> <br> Do you ha= ve any idea how to avoid it? 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<html><bodyHi, I setup it via oVirt. The problem is that there is no link detected on the real interfaces for management (ovirtmgmt is UP but NO-CARRIER). If I add another interface (with link detected) to the bond (temporarily as I need it for backup) it's working properly. Cheers, Luf Demeter Tibor píše v Pá 14. 11. 2014 v 12:42 +0100:
Hi,
Did you set your bond devices and IP addresses via ovirt's network management, or by hand on the nodes?
In my experiences you need to set up ip addresses on the node's network interface via ovirt' management, because it won't working.
Tibor
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Hi,
I have 2-node ovirt "cluster". Both machines has 4 interfaces. 2 interfaces in bond1 for data 2 interfaces in bond0 for management (short connected directly between servers)
switch0 -----\ /-----\ /----- switch0 node1 node2 switch1 -----/ \-----/ \----- switch1
I setup everything as I want/expect but I hit one problem and I don't know how to fix it. The problem is when I switch off one of the machines for maintenance (node01.ovirt in this case). I get in ovirt engine this message:
Host node02.ovirt moved to Non-Operational state because interfaces which are down are needed by required networks in the current cluster: 'bond0 (ovirtmgmt)'.
Do you have any idea how to avoid it? I can't change physical architecture as I don't have 10Gb switch.
BTW it's the same as if I want to start with only 1 node and separated data and mgmt networks:
switch ----- host --(not connected iface for mgmt as I don't need it)
Thanks,
Luf
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Hi Luf, Apologies, I probably don't understand the details of your L2 toplogy; how come when you turn off one host it affects the link state of of the other one's interfaces?... Yours, Lior. On 14/11/14 11:43, Finstrle, Ludek wrote:
Hi,
I have 2-node ovirt "cluster". Both machines has 4 interfaces. 2 interfaces in bond1 for data 2 interfaces in bond0 for management (short connected directly between servers)
switch0 -----\ /-----\ /----- switch0 node1 node2 switch1 -----/ \-----/ \----- switch1
I setup everything as I want/expect but I hit one problem and I don't know how to fix it. The problem is when I switch off one of the machines for maintenance (node01.ovirt in this case). I get in ovirt engine this message:
Host node02.ovirt moved to Non-Operational state because interfaces which are down are needed by required networks in the current cluster: 'bond0 (ovirtmgmt)'.
Do you have any idea how to avoid it? I can't change physical architecture as I don't have 10Gb switch.
BTW it's the same as if I want to start with only 1 node and separated data and mgmt networks:
switch ----- host --(not connected iface for mgmt as I don't need it)
Thanks,
Luf
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Hi Lior, If I'm not mistaken, on Luf's topology, there is no switch on the management bond (bond0) - just a cross or regular eth cable connecting physical interfaces on both nodes. So when one node is powered down, there is no link detected on the other node. Regards, On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Lior Vernia <lvernia@redhat.com> wrote:
Hi Luf,
Apologies, I probably don't understand the details of your L2 toplogy; how come when you turn off one host it affects the link state of of the other one's interfaces?...
Yours, Lior.
On 14/11/14 11:43, Finstrle, Ludek wrote:
Hi,
I have 2-node ovirt "cluster". Both machines has 4 interfaces. 2 interfaces in bond1 for data 2 interfaces in bond0 for management (short connected directly between servers)
switch0 -----\ /-----\ /----- switch0 node1 node2 switch1 -----/ \-----/ \----- switch1
I setup everything as I want/expect but I hit one problem and I don't know how to fix it. The problem is when I switch off one of the machines for maintenance (node01.ovirt in this case). I get in ovirt engine this message:
Host node02.ovirt moved to Non-Operational state because interfaces which are down are needed by required networks in the current cluster: 'bond0 (ovirtmgmt)'.
Do you have any idea how to avoid it? I can't change physical architecture as I don't have 10Gb switch.
BTW it's the same as if I want to start with only 1 node and separated data and mgmt networks:
switch ----- host --(not connected iface for mgmt as I don't need it)
Thanks,
Luf
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<html><bodyHi, yes that's exactly what I tried to describe. Thanks Ekin. There is no switch between 2 hosts/nodes (for ovirtmgmt network). It's similar to situation when I tried just one host/node and put the ovirtmgmt network to not connected network interface (will connect it once we buy second host). Cheers, Luf Ekin Meroğlu píše v Út 18. 11. 2014 v 00:00 +0200:
Hi Lior,
If I'm not mistaken, on Luf's topology, there is no switch on the management bond (bond0) - just a cross or regular eth cable connecting physical interfaces on both nodes. So when one node is powered down, there is no link detected on the other node.
Regards,
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Lior Vernia <lvernia@redhat.com> wrote: Hi Luf,
Apologies, I probably don't understand the details of your L2 toplogy; how come when you turn off one host it affects the link state of of the other one's interfaces?...
Yours, Lior.
On 14/11/14 11:43, Finstrle, Ludek wrote: > > Hi, > > I have 2-node ovirt "cluster". Both machines has 4 interfaces. > 2 interfaces in bond1 for data > 2 interfaces in bond0 for management (short connected directly between > servers) > > switch0 -----\ /-----\ /----- switch0 > node1 node2 > switch1 -----/ \-----/ \----- switch1 > > I setup everything as I want/expect but I hit one problem and I don't > know how to fix it. The problem is when I switch off one of the machines > for maintenance (node01.ovirt in this case). I get in ovirt engine this > message: > > Host node02.ovirt moved to Non-Operational state because interfaces > which are down are needed by required networks in the current cluster: > 'bond0 (ovirtmgmt)'. > > Do you have any idea how to avoid it? I can't change physical > architecture as I don't have 10Gb switch. > > BTW it's the same as if I want to start with only 1 node and separated > data and mgmt networks: > > switch ----- host --(not connected iface for mgmt as I don't need it) > > Thanks, > > Luf > > > NOTICE: This email and any attachments may contain confidential and > proprietary information of NetSuite Inc. and is for the sole use of the > intended recipient for the stated purpose. Any improper use or > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, > please notify the sender; do not review, copy or distribute; and > promptly delete or destroy all transmitted information. Please note that > all communications and information transmitted through this email system > may be monitored and retained by NetSuite or its agents and that all > incoming email is automatically scanned by a third party spam and > filtering service which may result in deletion of a legitimate e-mail > before it is read by the intended recipient. > >
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Hey, Thanks, so how come node2 moves to non-operational state rather than non-responsive (i.e. how come it's reachable from the engine)? The IP address via which it was installed, belongs to which network interface? bond1 which is used for data? Lior. On 18/11/14 12:17, Finstrle, Ludek wrote:
Hi,
yes that's exactly what I tried to describe. Thanks Ekin. There is no switch between 2 hosts/nodes (for ovirtmgmt network). It's similar to situation when I tried just one host/node and put the ovirtmgmt network to not connected network interface (will connect it once we buy second host).
Cheers,
Luf
Ekin Meroğlu píše v Út 18. 11. 2014 v 00:00 +0200:
Hi Lior,
If I'm not mistaken, on Luf's topology, there is no switch on the management bond (bond0) - just a cross or regular eth cable connecting physical interfaces on both nodes. So when one node is powered down, there is no link detected on the other node.
Regards,
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Lior Vernia <lvernia@redhat.com> wrote: Hi Luf,
Apologies, I probably don't understand the details of your L2 toplogy; how come when you turn off one host it affects the link state of of the other one's interfaces?...
Yours, Lior.
On 14/11/14 11:43, Finstrle, Ludek wrote:
Hi,
I have 2-node ovirt "cluster". Both machines has 4
2 interfaces in bond1 for data 2 interfaces in bond0 for management (short connected
servers)
switch0 -----\ /-----\ /----- switch0 node1 node2 switch1 -----/ \-----/ \----- switch1
I setup everything as I want/expect but I hit one problem and I don't know how to fix it. The problem is when I switch off one of
for maintenance (node01.ovirt in this case). I get in ovirt engine this message:
Host node02.ovirt moved to Non-Operational state because interfaces which are down are needed by required networks in the current cluster: 'bond0 (ovirtmgmt)'.
Do you have any idea how to avoid it? I can't change
architecture as I don't have 10Gb switch.
BTW it's the same as if I want to start with only 1 node and separated data and mgmt networks:
switch ----- host --(not connected iface for mgmt as I don't need it)
Thanks,
Luf
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<html><bodyHi Lior, Engine has both networks (ovirtmgmt as eth0 and data as eth1). Internally the cluster should communicate via ovirtmgmt (installed using internal name for ovirtmgmt IP and this network is strictly local to the ovirt cluster). I'm reaching web of engine via data IP (public network as web is listening on all interfaces). I'm sorry for worse responses as I'm on a business trip for next few weeks. Cheers, Luf sent from phone Dne 19. 11. 2014 9:34 Lior Vernia <lvernia@redhat.com> napsal(a): Hey, Thanks, so how come node2 moves to non-operational state rather than non-responsive (i.e. how come it's reachable from the engine)? The IP address via which it was installed, belongs to which network interface? bond1 which is used for data? Lior. On 18/11/14 12:17, Finstrle, Ludek wrote:
Hi,
yes that's exactly what I tried to describe. Thanks Ekin. There is no switch between 2 hosts/nodes (for ovirtmgmt network). It's similar to situation when I tried just one host/node and put the ovirtmgmt network to not connected network interface (will connect it once we buy second host).
Cheers,
Luf
Ekin Meroğlu píše v Út 18. 11. 2014 v 00:00 +0200:
Hi Lior,
If I'm not mistaken, on Luf's topology, there is no switch on the management bond (bond0) - just a cross or regular eth cable connecting physical interfaces on both nodes. So when one node is powered down, there is no link detected on the other node.
Regards,
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Lior Vernia <lvernia@redhat.com> wrote: Hi Luf,
Apologies, I probably don't understand the details of your L2 toplogy; how come when you turn off one host it affects the link state of of the other one's interfaces?...
Yours, Lior.
On 14/11/14 11:43, Finstrle, Ludek wrote:
Hi,
I have 2-node ovirt "cluster". Both machines has 4
2 interfaces in bond1 for data 2 interfaces in bond0 for management (short connected
servers)
switch0 -----\ /-----\ /----- switch0 node1 node2 switch1 -----/ \-----/ \----- switch1
I setup everything as I want/expect but I hit one problem and I don't know how to fix it. The problem is when I switch off one of
for maintenance (node01.ovirt in this case). I get in ovirt engine this message:
Host node02.ovirt moved to Non-Operational state because interfaces which are down are needed by required networks in the current cluster: 'bond0 (ovirtmgmt)'.
Do you have any idea how to avoid it? I can't change
architecture as I don't have 10Gb switch.
BTW it's the same as if I want to start with only 1 node and separated data and mgmt networks:
switch ----- host --(not connected iface for mgmt as I don't need it)
Thanks,
Luf
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On 19/11/14 14:42, Finstrle, Ludek wrote:
Hi Lior,
Engine has both networks (ovirtmgmt as eth0 and data as eth1). Internally the cluster should communicate via ovirtmgmt (installed using internal name for ovirtmgmt IP and this network is strictly local to the ovirt cluster). I'm reaching web of engine via data IP (public network as web is listening on all interfaces).
So when you take node1 down and node2's management interface goes down, how come the engine is still able to communicate with node2? Is the hostname also resolved to the data IP?
I'm sorry for worse responses as I'm on a business trip for next few weeks.
Cheers,
Luf
sent from phone
Dne 19. 11. 2014 9:34 Lior Vernia <lvernia@redhat.com> napsal(a): Hey,
Thanks, so how come node2 moves to non-operational state rather than non-responsive (i.e. how come it's reachable from the engine)? The IP address via which it was installed, belongs to which network interface? bond1 which is used for data?
Lior.
On 18/11/14 12:17, Finstrle, Ludek wrote:
Hi,
yes that's exactly what I tried to describe. Thanks Ekin. There is no switch between 2 hosts/nodes (for ovirtmgmt network). It's similar to situation when I tried just one host/node and put the ovirtmgmt network to not connected network interface (will connect it once we buy second host).
Cheers,
Luf
Ekin Meroğlu píše v Út 18. 11. 2014 v 00:00 +0200:
Hi Lior,
If I'm not mistaken, on Luf's topology, there is no switch on the management bond (bond0) - just a cross or regular eth cable connecting physical interfaces on both nodes. So when one node is powered down, there is no link detected on the other node.
Regards,
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Lior Vernia <lvernia@redhat.com> wrote: Hi Luf,
Apologies, I probably don't understand the details of your L2 toplogy; how come when you turn off one host it affects the link state of of the other one's interfaces?...
Yours, Lior.
On 14/11/14 11:43, Finstrle, Ludek wrote:
Hi,
I have 2-node ovirt "cluster". Both machines has 4
2 interfaces in bond1 for data 2 interfaces in bond0 for management (short connected
servers)
switch0 -----\ /-----\ /----- switch0 node1 node2 switch1 -----/ \-----/ \----- switch1
I setup everything as I want/expect but I hit one problem and I don't know how to fix it. The problem is when I switch off one of
for maintenance (node01.ovirt in this case). I get in ovirt engine this message:
Host node02.ovirt moved to Non-Operational state because interfaces which are down are needed by required networks in the current cluster: 'bond0 (ovirtmgmt)'.
Do you have any idea how to avoid it? I can't change
architecture as I don't have 10Gb switch.
BTW it's the same as if I want to start with only 1 node and separated data and mgmt networks:
switch ----- host --(not connected iface for mgmt as I don't need it)
Thanks,
Luf
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<html><bodyLior Vernia píše v St 19. 11. 2014 v 17:22 +0200:
On 19/11/14 14:42, Finstrle, Ludek wrote:
Engine has both networks (ovirtmgmt as eth0 and data as eth1). Internally the cluster should communicate via ovirtmgmt (installed using internal name for ovirtmgmt IP and this network is strictly local to the ovirt cluster). I'm reaching web of engine via data IP (public network as web is listening on all interfaces).
So when you take node1 down and node2's management interface goes down, how come the engine is still able to communicate with node2? Is the hostname also resolved to the data IP?
It's not exact description of the situation. 1) both nodes up => everything is working properly 2) second node power off 3) first node still have interfaces up (ovirtmgmt -> ens1f0 just without link detected) => first node is switched into Non-Operational mode (there should be at least some switch if I require link detected) 4) ping is working correctly over ovirtmgmt (checked via tcpdump) between remaining node and hosted engine running on that node I switch back to the problematic situation and ensure I'm not saying misleading information (ens1f0 is network interface for ovirtmgmt): ovirtmgmt: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 9000 ens1f0: flags=4099<UP,BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 9000 # ethtool ens1f0 Settings for ens1f0: Supported ports: [ TP ] Supported link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Full Supported pause frame use: No Supports auto-negotiation: Yes Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Full Advertised pause frame use: No Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes Speed: Unknown! Duplex: Unknown! (255) Port: Twisted Pair PHYAD: 1 Transceiver: internal Auto-negotiation: on MDI-X: Unknown (auto) Supports Wake-on: pumbg Wake-on: g Current message level: 0x00000007 (7) drv probe link Link detected: no Cheers, Luf
I'm sorry for worse responses as I'm on a business trip for next few weeks.
Cheers,
Luf
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Dne 19. 11. 2014 9:34 Lior Vernia <lvernia@redhat.com> napsal(a): Hey,
Thanks, so how come node2 moves to non-operational state rather than non-responsive (i.e. how come it's reachable from the engine)? The IP address via which it was installed, belongs to which network interface? bond1 which is used for data?
Lior.
On 18/11/14 12:17, Finstrle, Ludek wrote:
Hi,
yes that's exactly what I tried to describe. Thanks Ekin. There is no switch between 2 hosts/nodes (for ovirtmgmt network). It's similar to situation when I tried just one host/node and put the ovirtmgmt network to not connected network interface (will connect it once we buy second host).
Cheers,
Luf
Ekin Meroğlu píše v Út 18. 11. 2014 v 00:00 +0200:
Hi Lior,
If I'm not mistaken, on Luf's topology, there is no switch on the management bond (bond0) - just a cross or regular eth cable connecting physical interfaces on both nodes. So when one node is powered down, there is no link detected on the other node.
Regards,
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Lior Vernia <lvernia@redhat.com> wrote: Hi Luf,
Apologies, I probably don't understand the details of your L2 toplogy; how come when you turn off one host it affects the link state of of the other one's interfaces?...
Yours, Lior.
On 14/11/14 11:43, Finstrle, Ludek wrote:
Hi,
I have 2-node ovirt "cluster". Both machines has 4
2 interfaces in bond1 for data 2 interfaces in bond0 for management (short connected
servers)
switch0 -----\ /-----\ /----- switch0 node1 node2 switch1 -----/ \-----/ \----- switch1
I setup everything as I want/expect but I hit one problem and I don't know how to fix it. The problem is when I switch off one of
for maintenance (node01.ovirt in this case). I get in ovirt engine this message:
Host node02.ovirt moved to Non-Operational state because interfaces which are down are needed by required networks in the current cluster: 'bond0 (ovirtmgmt)'.
Do you have any idea how to avoid it? I can't change
architecture as I don't have 10Gb switch.
BTW it's the same as if I want to start with only 1 node and separated data and mgmt networks:
switch ----- host --(not connected iface for mgmt as I don't need it)
Thanks,
Luf
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Hi Luf, Let me have a think about it and I'll get back to you on whether there's a workaround or something needs to be enhanced in the engine logic. Thanks for bringing this up! Yours, Lior. On 20/11/14 15:11, Finstrle, Ludek wrote:
Lior Vernia píše v St 19. 11. 2014 v 17:22 +0200:
On 19/11/14 14:42, Finstrle, Ludek wrote:
Engine has both networks (ovirtmgmt as eth0 and data as eth1). Internally the cluster should communicate via ovirtmgmt (installed using internal name for ovirtmgmt IP and this network is strictly local to the ovirt cluster). I'm reaching web of engine via data IP (public network as web is listening on all interfaces).
So when you take node1 down and node2's management interface goes down, how come the engine is still able to communicate with node2? Is the hostname also resolved to the data IP?
It's not exact description of the situation.
1) both nodes up => everything is working properly 2) second node power off 3) first node still have interfaces up (ovirtmgmt -> ens1f0 just without link detected) => first node is switched into Non-Operational mode (there should be at least some switch if I require link detected) 4) ping is working correctly over ovirtmgmt (checked via tcpdump) between remaining node and hosted engine running on that node
I switch back to the problematic situation and ensure I'm not saying misleading information (ens1f0 is network interface for ovirtmgmt): ovirtmgmt: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 9000 ens1f0: flags=4099<UP,BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 9000 # ethtool ens1f0 Settings for ens1f0: Supported ports: [ TP ] Supported link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Full Supported pause frame use: No Supports auto-negotiation: Yes Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full 1000baseT/Full Advertised pause frame use: No Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes Speed: Unknown! Duplex: Unknown! (255) Port: Twisted Pair PHYAD: 1 Transceiver: internal Auto-negotiation: on MDI-X: Unknown (auto) Supports Wake-on: pumbg Wake-on: g Current message level: 0x00000007 (7) drv probe link Link detected: no
Cheers,
Luf
I'm sorry for worse responses as I'm on a business trip for next few weeks.
Cheers,
Luf
sent from phone
Dne 19. 11. 2014 9:34 Lior Vernia <lvernia@redhat.com> napsal(a): Hey,
Thanks, so how come node2 moves to non-operational state rather than non-responsive (i.e. how come it's reachable from the engine)? The IP address via which it was installed, belongs to which network interface? bond1 which is used for data?
Lior.
On 18/11/14 12:17, Finstrle, Ludek wrote:
Hi,
yes that's exactly what I tried to describe. Thanks Ekin. There is no switch between 2 hosts/nodes (for ovirtmgmt network). It's similar to situation when I tried just one host/node and put the ovirtmgmt network to not connected network interface (will connect it once we buy second host).
Cheers,
Luf
Ekin Meroğlu píše v Út 18. 11. 2014 v 00:00 +0200:
Hi Lior,
If I'm not mistaken, on Luf's topology, there is no switch on the management bond (bond0) - just a cross or regular eth cable connecting physical interfaces on both nodes. So when one node is powered down, there is no link detected on the other node.
Regards,
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Lior Vernia <lvernia@redhat.com> wrote: Hi Luf,
Apologies, I probably don't understand the details of your L2 toplogy; how come when you turn off one host it affects the link state of of the other one's interfaces?...
Yours, Lior.
On 14/11/14 11:43, Finstrle, Ludek wrote:
Hi,
I have 2-node ovirt "cluster". Both machines has 4
2 interfaces in bond1 for data 2 interfaces in bond0 for management (short connected
servers)
switch0 -----\ /-----\ /----- switch0 node1 node2 switch1 -----/ \-----/ \----- switch1
I setup everything as I want/expect but I hit one problem and I don't know how to fix it. The problem is when I switch off one of
for maintenance (node01.ovirt in this case). I get in ovirt engine this message:
Host node02.ovirt moved to Non-Operational state because interfaces which are down are needed by required networks in the current cluster: 'bond0 (ovirtmgmt)'.
Do you have any idea how to avoid it? I can't change
architecture as I don't have 10Gb switch.
BTW it's the same as if I want to start with only 1 node and separated data and mgmt networks:
switch ----- host --(not connected iface for mgmt as I don't need it)
Thanks,
Luf
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Demeter Tibor
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Ekin Meroğlu
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Finstrle, Ludek
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Lior Vernia