Re: Gluster VM image Resync Time
By default ovirt uses 'sharding' which splits the files into logical chunks. This greatly reduces healing time, as VM's disk is not always completely overwritten and only the shards that are different will be healed. Maybe you should change the default shard size. Best Regards, Strahil NikolovOn Mar 27, 2019 08:24, Indivar Nair <indivar.nair@techterra.in> wrote:
Hi All,
We are planning a 2 + 1 arbitrated mirrored Gluster setup. We would have around 50 - 60 VMs, with an average 500GB disk size.
Now in case one of the Gluster Nodes go completely out of sync, roughly, how long would it take to resync? (as per your experience) Will it impact the working of VMs in any way? Is there anything to be taken care of, in advance, to prepare for such a situation?
Regards,
Indivar Nair
Hi Strahil, Ok. Looks like sharding should make the resyncs faster. I searched for more info on it, but couldn't find much. I believe it will still have to compare each shard to determine whether there are any changes that need to be replicated. Am I right? Regards, Indivar Nair On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 4:34 PM Strahil <hunter86_bg@yahoo.com> wrote:
By default ovirt uses 'sharding' which splits the files into logical chunks. This greatly reduces healing time, as VM's disk is not always completely overwritten and only the shards that are different will be healed.
Maybe you should change the default shard size.
Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov On Mar 27, 2019 08:24, Indivar Nair <indivar.nair@techterra.in> wrote:
Hi All,
We are planning a 2 + 1 arbitrated mirrored Gluster setup. We would have around 50 - 60 VMs, with an average 500GB disk size.
Now in case one of the Gluster Nodes go completely out of sync, roughly, how long would it take to resync? (as per your experience) Will it impact the working of VMs in any way? Is there anything to be taken care of, in advance, to prepare for such a situation?
Regards,
Indivar Nair
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 7:40 PM Indivar Nair <indivar.nair@techterra.in> wrote:
Hi Strahil,
Ok. Looks like sharding should make the resyncs faster.
I searched for more info on it, but couldn't find much. I believe it will still have to compare each shard to determine whether there are any changes that need to be replicated. Am I right?
+Krutika Dhananjay
Regards,
Indivar Nair
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 4:34 PM Strahil <hunter86_bg@yahoo.com> wrote:
By default ovirt uses 'sharding' which splits the files into logical chunks. This greatly reduces healing time, as VM's disk is not always completely overwritten and only the shards that are different will be healed.
Maybe you should change the default shard size.
Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov
On Mar 27, 2019 08:24, Indivar Nair <indivar.nair@techterra.in> wrote:
Hi All,
We are planning a 2 + 1 arbitrated mirrored Gluster setup. We would have around 50 - 60 VMs, with an average 500GB disk size.
Now in case one of the Gluster Nodes go completely out of sync, roughly, how long would it take to resync? (as per your experience) Will it impact the working of VMs in any way? Is there anything to be taken care of, in advance, to prepare for such a situation?
Regards,
Indivar Nair
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Each shard is a separate file of size equal to value of "features.shard-block-size". So when a brick/node was down, only those shards belonging to the VM that were modified will be sync'd later when the brick's back up. Does that answer your question? -Krutika On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 7:48 PM Sahina Bose <sabose@redhat.com> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 7:40 PM Indivar Nair <indivar.nair@techterra.in> wrote:
Hi Strahil,
Ok. Looks like sharding should make the resyncs faster.
I searched for more info on it, but couldn't find much. I believe it will still have to compare each shard to determine whether
there are any changes that need to be replicated.
Am I right?
+Krutika Dhananjay
Regards,
Indivar Nair
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 4:34 PM Strahil <hunter86_bg@yahoo.com> wrote:
By default ovirt uses 'sharding' which splits the files into logical
chunks. This greatly reduces healing time, as VM's disk is not always completely overwritten and only the shards that are different will be healed.
Maybe you should change the default shard size.
Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov
On Mar 27, 2019 08:24, Indivar Nair <indivar.nair@techterra.in> wrote:
Hi All,
We are planning a 2 + 1 arbitrated mirrored Gluster setup. We would have around 50 - 60 VMs, with an average 500GB disk size.
Now in case one of the Gluster Nodes go completely out of sync,
roughly, how long would it take to resync? (as per your experience)
Will it impact the working of VMs in any way? Is there anything to be taken care of, in advance, to prepare for such a situation?
Regards,
Indivar Nair
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Hi Krutika, So how does the Gluster node know which shards were modified after it went down? Do the other Gluster nodes keep track of it? Regards, Indivar Nair On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 9:45 AM Krutika Dhananjay <kdhananj@redhat.com> wrote:
Each shard is a separate file of size equal to value of "features.shard-block-size". So when a brick/node was down, only those shards belonging to the VM that were modified will be sync'd later when the brick's back up. Does that answer your question?
-Krutika
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 7:48 PM Sahina Bose <sabose@redhat.com> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 7:40 PM Indivar Nair <indivar.nair@techterra.in> wrote:
Hi Strahil,
Ok. Looks like sharding should make the resyncs faster.
I searched for more info on it, but couldn't find much. I believe it will still have to compare each shard to determine whether
there are any changes that need to be replicated.
Am I right?
+Krutika Dhananjay
Regards,
Indivar Nair
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 4:34 PM Strahil <hunter86_bg@yahoo.com> wrote:
By default ovirt uses 'sharding' which splits the files into logical
chunks. This greatly reduces healing time, as VM's disk is not always completely overwritten and only the shards that are different will be healed.
Maybe you should change the default shard size.
Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov
On Mar 27, 2019 08:24, Indivar Nair <indivar.nair@techterra.in> wrote:
Hi All,
We are planning a 2 + 1 arbitrated mirrored Gluster setup. We would have around 50 - 60 VMs, with an average 500GB disk size.
Now in case one of the Gluster Nodes go completely out of sync,
roughly, how long would it take to resync? (as per your experience)
Will it impact the working of VMs in any way? Is there anything to be taken care of, in advance, to prepare for such a situation?
Regards,
Indivar Nair
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Right. So Gluster stores what are called "indices" for each modified file (or shard) under a special hidden directory of the "good" bricks at $BRICK_PATH/.glusterfs/indices/xattrop. When the offline brick comes back up, the file corresponding to each index is healed, and then the index deleted to mark the fact that the file has been healed. You can try this and see it for yourself. Just create a 1x3 plain replicate volume, and enable shard on it. Create a big file (big enough to have multiple shards). Check that the shards are created under $BRICK_PATH/.shard. Now kill a brick. Modify a small portion of the file. Hit `ls` on $BRICK_PATH/.glusterfs/indices/xattrop of the online bricks. You'll notice there will be entries named after the gfid (unique identifier in gluster for each file) of the shards. And only for those shards that the write modified, and not ALL shards of this really big file. And then when you bring the brick back up using `gluster volume start $VOL force`, the shards get healed and the directory eventually becomes empty. -Krutika On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 12:14 PM Indivar Nair <indivar.nair@techterra.in> wrote:
Hi Krutika,
So how does the Gluster node know which shards were modified after it went down? Do the other Gluster nodes keep track of it?
Regards,
Indivar Nair
On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 9:45 AM Krutika Dhananjay <kdhananj@redhat.com> wrote:
Each shard is a separate file of size equal to value of "features.shard-block-size". So when a brick/node was down, only those shards belonging to the VM that were modified will be sync'd later when the brick's back up. Does that answer your question?
-Krutika
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 7:48 PM Sahina Bose <sabose@redhat.com> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 7:40 PM Indivar Nair <indivar.nair@techterra.in> wrote:
Hi Strahil,
Ok. Looks like sharding should make the resyncs faster.
I searched for more info on it, but couldn't find much. I believe it will still have to compare each shard to determine
whether there are any changes that need to be replicated.
Am I right?
+Krutika Dhananjay
Regards,
Indivar Nair
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 4:34 PM Strahil <hunter86_bg@yahoo.com> wrote:
By default ovirt uses 'sharding' which splits the files into logical
chunks. This greatly reduces healing time, as VM's disk is not always completely overwritten and only the shards that are different will be healed.
Maybe you should change the default shard size.
Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov
On Mar 27, 2019 08:24, Indivar Nair <indivar.nair@techterra.in>
wrote:
Hi All,
We are planning a 2 + 1 arbitrated mirrored Gluster setup. We would have around 50 - 60 VMs, with an average 500GB disk size.
Now in case one of the Gluster Nodes go completely out of sync,
roughly, how long would it take to resync? (as per your experience)
Will it impact the working of VMs in any way? Is there anything to be taken care of, in advance, to prepare for such a situation?
Regards,
Indivar Nair
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Thanks, Krutika, Sorry, got busy with some other work. But, better late than never. Regards, Indivar Nair On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 12:26 PM Krutika Dhananjay <kdhananj@redhat.com> wrote:
Right. So Gluster stores what are called "indices" for each modified file (or shard) under a special hidden directory of the "good" bricks at $BRICK_PATH/.glusterfs/indices/xattrop. When the offline brick comes back up, the file corresponding to each index is healed, and then the index deleted to mark the fact that the file has been healed.
You can try this and see it for yourself. Just create a 1x3 plain replicate volume, and enable shard on it. Create a big file (big enough to have multiple shards). Check that the shards are created under $BRICK_PATH/.shard. Now kill a brick. Modify a small portion of the file. Hit `ls` on $BRICK_PATH/.glusterfs/indices/xattrop of the online bricks. You'll notice there will be entries named after the gfid (unique identifier in gluster for each file) of the shards. And only for those shards that the write modified, and not ALL shards of this really big file. And then when you bring the brick back up using `gluster volume start $VOL force`, the shards get healed and the directory eventually becomes empty.
-Krutika
On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 12:14 PM Indivar Nair <indivar.nair@techterra.in> wrote:
Hi Krutika,
So how does the Gluster node know which shards were modified after it went down? Do the other Gluster nodes keep track of it?
Regards,
Indivar Nair
On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 9:45 AM Krutika Dhananjay <kdhananj@redhat.com> wrote:
Each shard is a separate file of size equal to value of "features.shard-block-size". So when a brick/node was down, only those shards belonging to the VM that were modified will be sync'd later when the brick's back up. Does that answer your question?
-Krutika
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 7:48 PM Sahina Bose <sabose@redhat.com> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 7:40 PM Indivar Nair <indivar.nair@techterra.in> wrote:
Hi Strahil,
Ok. Looks like sharding should make the resyncs faster.
I searched for more info on it, but couldn't find much. I believe it will still have to compare each shard to determine
whether there are any changes that need to be replicated.
Am I right?
+Krutika Dhananjay
Regards,
Indivar Nair
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 4:34 PM Strahil <hunter86_bg@yahoo.com>
wrote:
By default ovirt uses 'sharding' which splits the files into logical
chunks. This greatly reduces healing time, as VM's disk is not always completely overwritten and only the shards that are different will be healed.
Maybe you should change the default shard size.
Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov
On Mar 27, 2019 08:24, Indivar Nair <indivar.nair@techterra.in>
wrote:
Hi All,
We are planning a 2 + 1 arbitrated mirrored Gluster setup. We would have around 50 - 60 VMs, with an average 500GB disk size.
Now in case one of the Gluster Nodes go completely out of sync,
roughly, how long would it take to resync? (as per your experience)
Will it impact the working of VMs in any way? Is there anything to be taken care of, in advance, to prepare for such a situation?
Regards,
Indivar Nair
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Thanks, Strahil, Sorry, got busy with some other work. But, better late than never. Regards, Indivar Nair On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 4:34 PM Strahil <hunter86_bg@yahoo.com> wrote:
By default ovirt uses 'sharding' which splits the files into logical chunks. This greatly reduces healing time, as VM's disk is not always completely overwritten and only the shards that are different will be healed.
Maybe you should change the default shard size.
Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov On Mar 27, 2019 08:24, Indivar Nair <indivar.nair@techterra.in> wrote:
Hi All,
We are planning a 2 + 1 arbitrated mirrored Gluster setup. We would have around 50 - 60 VMs, with an average 500GB disk size.
Now in case one of the Gluster Nodes go completely out of sync, roughly, how long would it take to resync? (as per your experience) Will it impact the working of VMs in any way? Is there anything to be taken care of, in advance, to prepare for such a situation?
Regards,
Indivar Nair
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