3:43 p.m.
Hello,
what is the status of support for spice console with ie9 (32bit on
win7 32bit in my case) and 3.2 final?
I have a windows xp vm but when I try to login to console from
win7+ie9 I don't get any activex request to install....
ie exact version:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwoPbcrMv8mvVHZhYnczY3lKaTA/edit?usp=sharing
If after a few minutes I click again on console button I get
Error: A Request to the Server failed with the following Status Code: 400
Tried with both admin and user portal.
Thanks,
Gianluca
1:12 a.m.
Hi,
did you follow http://wiki.ovirt.org/How_to_Connect_to_SPICE_Console_With_Portal?
Thanks,
michal
On Feb 20, 2013, at 00:43 , Gianluca Cecchi <gianluca.cecchi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
what is the status of support for spice console with ie9 (32bit on
win7 32bit in my case) and 3.2 final?
I have a windows xp vm but when I try to login to console from
win7+ie9 I don't get any activex request to install....
ie exact version:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwoPbcrMv8mvVHZhYnczY3lKaTA/edit?usp=sharing
If after a few minutes I click again on console button I get
Error: A Request to the Server failed with the following Status Code: 400
Tried with both admin and user portal.
Thanks,
Gianluca
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2:37 a.m.
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Michal Skrivanek wrote:
Hi,
did you follow http://wiki.ovirt.org/How_to_Connect_to_SPICE_Console_With_Portal?
Thanks,
michal
as soon as http://wiki.ovirt.org web site returns available I'm going to check.
Right now it seems remaining in waiting state... (it's about half an hour...)
Gianluca
4:19 a.m.
On Feb 20, 2013, at 11:37 , Gianluca Cecchi <gianluca.cecchi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Michal Skrivanek wrote:
> Hi,
> did you follow http://wiki.ovirt.org/How_to_Connect_to_SPICE_Console_With_Portal?
>
> Thanks,
> michal
as soon as http://wiki.ovirt.org web site returns available I'm going to check.
Right now it seems remaining in waiting state... (it's about half an hour…)
heh, it worked at 10am...
anyway, go ahead with cached copy:-)
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:hbhOyY18qscJ:wiki.ov...
Gianluca
4:35 a.m.
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Michal Skrivanek wrote:
heh, it worked at 10am...
anyway, go ahead with cached copy:-)
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:hbhOyY18qscJ:wiki.ov...
No, never seen that page, thanks!
I see some things to do engine side too, that I didn't find before...
I'm going to test ad report
BTW: still now overall www.ovirt.org is down at my side (Italy: I seem
to be on fastweb Italy network right now): it remains in waiting
for....
While other websites are accessible without any problem. Possibly a
fastweb italy connectivity problem towards that domain...
Gianluca
2:52 p.m.
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Michal Skrivanek wrote:
Hi,
did you follow http://wiki.ovirt.org/How_to_Connect_to_SPICE_Console_With_Portal?
Thanks,
michal
Ok, I was able to install and run the spice plugin on my system with
WIndows 7 (64bit) and Internet Explorer 9
It seems from first tests that it works quite well (tested only with
Windows XP VM right now)
I took the time to change two small things on the wiki page:
- WEB_INF --> WEB-INF
- Changed the note regarding spice servlet this way:
NOTE the file web.xml is part of ovirt-engine-backend rpm; in oVirt
3.2 the <servlet> definition for SpiceX.cab is already in place
Also, inside the section regarding portals I noticed that the file
/usr/share/ovirt-engine/engine.ear/root.war/index.html
is different from what written into the wiki... I didn't change it
yet, in case you want to retain some sort of 3.1 compatibility...
In case let me know and I'll update that too.
Some notes regarding installation
- added link to spice page in portals main page
- click on it
- click on button "install spice"
- accept activeX install
apparently at this point nothing happened.. I waited a couple of
minutes.. no virtviewer entry in allprograms section
Then I tried to open a spice console and again I got the message
regarding the plugin, accept and then got the install window
So now I can click again on spice console button of the vm and spice
console fires up...
I'm going to try with another windows 7 (32bit) system and document better...
Note: I also got the " Error: A Request to the Server failed with the
following Status Code: 400" window; probably due to the first spice
console access that implied true installation of plugin...
Gianluca
5:44 a.m.
On 20 Feb 2013, at 23:52, Gianluca Cecchi <gianluca.cecchi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Michal Skrivanek wrote:
> Hi,
> did you follow http://wiki.ovirt.org/How_to_Connect_to_SPICE_Console_With_Portal?
>
> Thanks,
> michal
Ok, I was able to install and run the spice plugin on my system with
WIndows 7 (64bit) and Internet Explorer 9
It seems from first tests that it works quite well (tested only with
Windows XP VM right now)
I took the time to change two small things on the wiki page:
Thanks!
- WEB_INF --> WEB-INF
- Changed the note regarding spice servlet this way:
NOTE the file web.xml is part of ovirt-engine-backend rpm; in oVirt
3.2 the <servlet> definition for SpiceX.cab is already in place
Also, inside the section regarding portals I noticed that the file
/usr/share/ovirt-engine/engine.ear/root.war/index.html
is different from what written into the wiki... I didn't change it
yet, in case you want to retain some sort of 3.1 compatibility...
In case let me know and I'll update that too.
I'd go ahead and change it,
no need to keep obsolete information
Some notes regarding installation
- added link to spice page in portals main page
- click on it
- click on button "install spice"
- accept activeX install
apparently at this point nothing happened.. I waited a couple of
minutes.. no virtviewer entry in allprograms section
Then I tried to open a spice console and again I got the message
regarding the plugin, accept and then got the install window
So now I can click again on spice console button of the vm and spice
console fires up...
I'm going to try with another windows 7 (32bit) system and document better...
Note: I also got the " Error: A Request to the Server failed with the
following Status Code: 400" window; probably due to the first spice
console access that implied true installation of plugin...
Yeah, the download may
take quite some time and there's no feedback.
Well,I hope people will eventualy give up on IE;) The xpi plugin, MIME file, and HTML5
client would replace ActiveX in the future well enough
Thanks,
michal
Gianluca
6:11 a.m.
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Michal Skrivanek wrote:
> Also, inside the section regarding portals I noticed that the
file
> /usr/share/ovirt-engine/engine.ear/root.war/index.html
>
> is different from what written into the wiki... I didn't change it
> yet, in case you want to retain some sort of 3.1 compatibility...
> In case let me know and I'll update that too.
I'd go ahead and change it, no need to keep obsolete information
Ok, done.
Yeah, the download may take quite some time and there's no
feedback.
Well,I hope people will eventualy give up on IE;) The xpi plugin, MIME file, and HTML5
client would replace ActiveX in the future well enough
Thanks,
michal
I will be the first ;-)
(Even if I have to admit that the rendering of the Webadmin GUI in IE9
and WIndows 7 is far the best one compared with Firefox and Chrome, at
this time with 3.2 final.
give the devil (his due) ....)
10:22 p.m.
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Michal Skrivanek wrote:
>> Also, inside the section regarding portals I noticed that the file
>> /usr/share/ovirt-engine/engine.ear/root.war/index.html
>>
>> is different from what written into the wiki... I didn't change it
>> yet, in case you want to retain some sort of 3.1 compatibility...
>> In case let me know and I'll update that too.
> I'd go ahead and change it, no need to keep obsolete information
Ok, done.
One question about the rendering of the proposed spice.html page in the wiki.
At the end of the two "manual install" sections and before the
uninstall one there is a code that should propose a button (?) or
something to manual install
<p>1) Right-Click "Spice Remote-Viewer Client/ActiveX Plugin" and
choose "save target as"</p>
...
8) Click the close button once it is done to complete the install
9) The Spice Remote-Viewer Client/ActiveX Plugin is now installed and
you will be able to view the consoles of your vm's in the User/Admin
portals.
here a script section that seems not to be rendered, its code is:
---<
<script type="text/JavaScript">
getHttpHref("spice/virt-viewer-0.5.3.exe","Spice Remote-Viewer
Client/ActiveX Plugin");
</script>
<a name="manual-uninstall1"></a>
---<
Windows XP (x86)/Server 2003/R2 (x86/x64) Uninstall Instructions:
1) *Important* Close all open Internet Explorer windows/sessions!
...
But actually I don't see anything between point 9) and the line with
Windows XP (x86)/Server 2003/R2 (x86/x64) Uninstall Instructions:
Is there anything wrong with the snippet code?
I don't understand what should appear in the rendering that I'm able
to right-click to manual install....
Tried both in firefox and in IE and nothing appears as a consequence
of this javascript code...
If I directly go to
https://tekkaman.localdomain.local/spice/virt-viewer-0.5.3.exe
I get the prompt to download/install the exe, so I think I correctly
put my files...
Thanks Gianluca
11:17 p.m.
On Feb 27, 2013, at 07:22 , Gianluca Cecchi <gianluca.cecchi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Michal Skrivanek wrote:
>>> Also, inside the section regarding portals I noticed that the file
>>> /usr/share/ovirt-engine/engine.ear/root.war/index.html
>>>
>>> is different from what written into the wiki... I didn't change it
>>> yet, in case you want to retain some sort of 3.1 compatibility...
>>> In case let me know and I'll update that too.
>> I'd go ahead and change it, no need to keep obsolete information
>
> Ok, done.
One question about the rendering of the proposed spice.html page in the wiki.
At the end of the two "manual install" sections and before the
uninstall one there is a code that should propose a button (?) or
something to manual install
It's supposed to render a simple link….but
apparently the getHttpHref doesn't work….try to simply replace http_url with
"http://your.server"
<p>1) Right-Click "Spice Remote-Viewer Client/ActiveX Plugin" and
choose "save target as"</p>
...
8) Click the close button once it is done to complete the install
9) The Spice Remote-Viewer Client/ActiveX Plugin is now installed and
you will be able to view the consoles of your vm's in the User/Admin
portals.
here a script section that seems not to be rendered, its code is:
> ---<
<script type="text/JavaScript">
getHttpHref("spice/virt-viewer-0.5.3.exe","Spice Remote-Viewer
Client/ActiveX Plugin");
</script>
<a name="manual-uninstall1"></a>
> ---<
Windows XP (x86)/Server 2003/R2 (x86/x64) Uninstall Instructions:
1) *Important* Close all open Internet Explorer windows/sessions!
...
But actually I don't see anything between point 9) and the line with
Windows XP (x86)/Server 2003/R2 (x86/x64) Uninstall Instructions:
Is there anything wrong with the snippet code?
I don't understand what should appear in the rendering that I'm able
to right-click to manual install....
Tried both in firefox and in IE and nothing appears as a consequence
of this javascript code...
If I directly go to
https://tekkaman.localdomain.local/spice/virt-viewer-0.5.3.exe
I get the prompt to download/install the exe, so I think I correctly
put my files...
Thanks Gianluca
11:27 p.m.
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5:14 a.m.
Hello everybody,
I have been able to install in my Debian box Iceweasel browser the
spice-xpi plugin and I can see consoles from admin portal and User portal.
When I go to a Windows 7 Enterprise 64 bits client and open oVirt User
Portal login and I can see my Fedora linux 17 VM and my Windows 7
Enterprise 32bits VM in the portal but when I click in the console
remote-viewer open with a black screen about two seconds and it closes and
the VM doesn't shows. I have tested two versions of virt-viewer, x86 and
x64, downloaded from http://spice-space.org/download.html but I can't see
my VMs.
I have followed the how-to:
http://wiki.ovirt.org/How_to_Connect_to_SPICE_Console_With_Portal but
nothing happens. I have been to install virt-viewer but VM doesn't show in
the console. The Windows 7 Enterprise 64 bits client has IE v.10 and I also
have done a downgrade to IE v.9.0 but it doesn't work.
Can somebody give me guidance about this problem?
Many thanks in avanced,
Juanjo.
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Karli Sjöberg <Karli.Sjoberg(a)slu.se> wrote:
**
ons 2013-02-27 klockan 07:22 +0100 skrev Gianluca Cecchi:
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Michal Skrivanek wrote:
>>> Also, inside the section regarding portals I noticed that the file
>>> /usr/share/ovirt-engine/engine.ear/root.war/index.html
>>>
>>> is different from what written into the wiki... I didn't change it
>>> yet, in case you want to retain some sort of 3.1 compatibility...
>>> In case let me know and I'll update that too.
>> I'd go ahead and change it, no need to keep obsolete information
>
> Ok, done.
One question about the rendering of the proposed spice.html page in the wiki.
At the end of the two "manual install" sections and before the
uninstall one there is a code that should propose a button (?) or
something to manual install
<p>1) Right-Click "Spice Remote-Viewer Client/ActiveX Plugin" and
choose "save target as"</p>
...
8) Click the close button once it is done to complete the install
9) The Spice Remote-Viewer Client/ActiveX Plugin is now installed and
you will be able to view the consoles of your vm's in the User/Admin
portals.
here a script section that seems not to be rendered, its code is:
>---<
<script type="text/JavaScript">
getHttpHref("spice/virt-viewer-0.5.3.exe","Spice Remote-Viewer
Client/ActiveX Plugin");
</script>
<a name="manual-uninstall1"></a>
>---<
Windows XP (x86)/Server 2003/R2 (x86/x64) Uninstall Instructions:
1) *Important* Close all open Internet Explorer windows/sessions!
...
But actually I don't see anything between point 9) and the line with
Windows XP (x86)/Server 2003/R2 (x86/x64) Uninstall Instructions:
Is there anything wrong with the snippet code?
I don't understand what should appear in the rendering that I'm able
to right-click to manual install....
It´s just a button that you click to install remote-viewer. Can´t say why
it´s not working for you, but I´ve followed the guide to set up the portal
and everything works as expected to install Spice with oVirt-3.1. A
co-worker of mine was able to, by himself, figure out how to do it, without
me even knowing it; he said that the process was very logical,
straight-forward and well presented, so big kudos to DHC for that!
Something that still bothers me in Windows/IE though, is that you are able
to get a working console through webadmin, but not the userportal.
/Karli
Tried both in firefox and in IE and nothing appears as a consequence
of this javascript code...
If I directly go to
https://tekkaman.localdomain.local/spice/virt-viewer-0.5.3.exe
I get the prompt to download/install the exe, so I think I correctly
put my files...
Thanks Gianluca
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7:48 a.m.
Hello Karli,
I'm working with a oVirt version 3.1, but I have read that Gianluca have
been able to do this console works. Anybody can help us providing some
guidance?
Many thanks in avanced,
Juanjo.
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Karli Sjöberg <Karli.Sjoberg(a)slu.se> wrote:
**
ons 2013-02-27 klockan 14:14 +0100 skrev Juan Jose:
Hello everybody,
I have been able to install in my Debian box Iceweasel browser the
spice-xpi plugin and I can see consoles from admin portal and User portal.
When I go to a Windows 7 Enterprise 64 bits client and open oVirt User
Portal login and I can see my Fedora linux 17 VM and my Windows 7
Enterprise 32bits VM in the portal but when I click in the console
remote-viewer open with a black screen about two seconds and it closes and
the VM doesn't shows.
Exactly what I´m experiencing as well! I´m not alone:) What version of
oVirt are you running, 3.1, or 3.2?
/Karli
I have tested two versions of virt-viewer, x86 and x64, downloaded from
http://spice-space.org/download.html but I can't see my VMs.
I have followed the how-to:
http://wiki.ovirt.org/How_to_Connect_to_SPICE_Console_With_Portal but
nothing happens. I have been to install virt-viewer but VM doesn't show in
the console. The Windows 7 Enterprise 64 bits client has IE v.10 and I also
have done a downgrade to IE v.9.0 but it doesn't work.
Can somebody give me guidance about this problem?
Many thanks in avanced,
Juanjo.
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Karli Sjöberg <Karli.Sjoberg(a)slu.se>
wrote:
ons 2013-02-27 klockan 07:22 +0100 skrev Gianluca Cecchi:
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Michal Skrivanek wrote:
>>> Also, inside the section regarding portals I noticed that the file
>>> /usr/share/ovirt-engine/engine.ear/root.war/index.html
>>>
>>> is different from what written into the wiki... I didn't change it
>>> yet, in case you want to retain some sort of 3.1 compatibility...
>>> In case let me know and I'll update that too.
>> I'd go ahead and change it, no need to keep obsolete information
>
> Ok, done.
One question about the rendering of the proposed spice.html page in the wiki.
At the end of the two "manual install" sections and before the
uninstall one there is a code that should propose a button (?) or
something to manual install
<p>1) Right-Click "Spice Remote-Viewer Client/ActiveX Plugin" and
choose "save target as"</p>
...
8) Click the close button once it is done to complete the install
9) The Spice Remote-Viewer Client/ActiveX Plugin is now installed and
you will be able to view the consoles of your vm's in the User/Admin
portals.
here a script section that seems not to be rendered, its code is:
>---<
<script type="text/JavaScript">
getHttpHref("spice/virt-viewer-0.5.3.exe","Spice Remote-Viewer
Client/ActiveX Plugin");
</script>
<a name="manual-uninstall1"></a>
>---<
Windows XP (x86)/Server 2003/R2 (x86/x64) Uninstall Instructions:
1) *Important* Close all open Internet Explorer windows/sessions!
...
But actually I don't see anything between point 9) and the line with
Windows XP (x86)/Server 2003/R2 (x86/x64) Uninstall Instructions:
Is there anything wrong with the snippet code?
I don't understand what should appear in the rendering that I'm able
to right-click to manual install....
It´s just a button that you click to install remote-viewer. Can´t say
why it´s not working for you, but I´ve followed the guide to set up the
portal and everything works as expected to install Spice with oVirt-3.1. A
co-worker of mine was able to, by himself, figure out how to do it, without
me even knowing it; he said that the process was very logical,
straight-forward and well presented, so big kudos to DHC for that!
Something that still bothers me in Windows/IE though, is that you are able
to get a working console through webadmin, but not the userportal.
/Karli
Tried both in firefox and in IE and nothing appears as a consequence
of this javascript code...
If I directly go to
https://tekkaman.localdomain.local/spice/virt-viewer-0.5.3.exe
I get the prompt to download/install the exe, so I think I correctly
put my files...
Thanks Gianluca
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8:01 a.m.
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Juan Jose wrote:
Hello Karli,
I'm working with a oVirt version 3.1, but I have read that Gianluca have
been able to do this console works. Anybody can help us providing some
guidance?
Many thanks in avanced,
Juanjo.
keep in mind that I have only used spice console with oVirt version
3.2 final and ie 9 32 bit in the client
11:39 a.m.
On 2/27/2013 11:01 AM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Juan Jose wrote:
> Hello Karli,
>
> I'm working with a oVirt version 3.1, but I have read that Gianluca have
> been able to do this console works. Anybody can help us providing some
> guidance?
>
> Many thanks in avanced,
>
> Juanjo.
keep in mind that I have only used spice console with oVirt version
3.2 final and ie 9 32 bit in the client
I've never gotten it to work in IE (3.1 or 3.2) but haven't put lots of
effort into finding out why. I get the exact same results (client for a
couple of seconds). I believe it's always been with IE 9 and Windows 7/64.
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Many thanks,
But to me one question arise, with a Windows clients, XP or 7, any version,
it's possible to use the User Portal to be able users lauch the VM
console?, or it's mandatory to have Fedora clients with spice-xpi for
firefox.
On the other hand, if Spice consoles in windows clients can't be used for
oVirt 3.1, is It possible open VM consoles from Windows clients with VNC?
and in affirmative case, is there some how-to similar to Spice how-to?
Many thanks in avanced,
Juanjo.
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Jeff Bailey <bailey(a)cs.kent.edu> wrote:
On 2/27/2013 11:01 AM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Juan Jose wrote:
>
>> Hello Karli,
>>
>> I'm working with a oVirt version 3.1, but I have read that Gianluca have
>> been able to do this console works. Anybody can help us providing some
>> guidance?
>>
>> Many thanks in avanced,
>>
>> Juanjo.
>>
> keep in mind that I have only used spice console with oVirt version
> 3.2 final and ie 9 32 bit in the client
>
I've never gotten it to work in IE (3.1 or 3.2) but haven't put lots of
effort into finding out why. I get the exact same results (client for a
couple of seconds). I believe it's always been with IE 9 and Windows 7/64.
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2:37 a.m.
On 02/28/2013 01:34 PM, Karli Sjöberg wrote:
> But to me one question arise, with a Windows clients, XP or 7,
any
> version, it's possible to use the User Portal to be able users lauch
> the VM console?, or it's mandatory to have Fedora clients with
> spice-xpi for firefox.
It would seem impossible with oVirt-3.1, which is the biggest reason why
we cannot take into any real production at the moment:( What good does
it do that it works with Fedora when the total of people using it counts
to 1(me)?
1. there are wiki's on how to add spice windows support to ovirt:
http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/How_to_Connect_to_SPICE_Console_With_Portal
2. there are patches for various solutions to this coming (mime based
launched, spice.html5, novnc, maybe spice-xpi for firefox windows)
HTH,
Itamar
4:56 a.m.
Hello Itamar and everybody,
I have tested this Howto with a Windows 7 Enterprise edition client and IE
9 and when you click over console button in User portal virt-viewer is
launched but after one second it close windows and don't connect to virtual
machine. I have oVirt 3.1 and I'm thinking in migrate my system to oVirt
3.2 but it will be nice to know which it is the reason because it doesn't
work. Some indications about what would be the problem will be wellcome.
If it is necessary some log I can provide it.
Many thanks,
Juanjo.
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Itamar Heim <iheim(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On 02/28/2013 01:34 PM, Karli Sjöberg wrote:
> But to me one question arise, with a Windows clients, XP or 7, any
>> version, it's possible to use the User Portal to be able users lauch
>> the VM console?, or it's mandatory to have Fedora clients with
>> spice-xpi for firefox.
>>
> It would seem impossible with oVirt-3.1, which is the biggest reason why
> we cannot take into any real production at the moment:( What good does
> it do that it works with Fedora when the total of people using it counts
> to 1(me)?
>
1. there are wiki's on how to add spice windows support to ovirt:
http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/How_to_Connect_to_SPICE_Console_With_Portal
2. there are patches for various solutions to this coming (mime based
launched, spice.html5, novnc, maybe spice-xpi for firefox windows)
HTH,
Itamar
5:01 a.m.
On 03/18/2013 01:56 PM, Juan Jose wrote:
Hello Itamar and everybody,
I have tested this Howto with a Windows 7 Enterprise edition client and
IE 9 and when you click over console button in User portal virt-viewer
is launched but after one second it close windows and don't connect to
virtual machine. I have oVirt 3.1 and I'm thinking in migrate my system
to oVirt 3.2 but it will be nice to know which it is the reason because
it doesn't work. Some indications about what would be the problem will
be wellcome.
If it is necessary some log I can provide it.
hard to help without logs (spice client to begin with).
will be easier helping/patching you on 3.2 of course.
Many thanks,
Juanjo.
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Itamar Heim <iheim(a)redhat.com
<mailto:iheim@redhat.com>> wrote:
On 02/28/2013 01:34 PM, Karli Sjöberg wrote:
But to me one question arise, with a Windows clients, XP or
7, any
version, it's possible to use the User Portal to be able
users lauch
the VM console?, or it's mandatory to have Fedora clients with
spice-xpi for firefox.
It would seem impossible with oVirt-3.1, which is the biggest
reason why
we cannot take into any real production at the moment:( What
good does
it do that it works with Fedora when the total of people using
it counts
to 1(me)?
1. there are wiki's on how to add spice windows support to ovirt:
http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/How_to_Connect_to_SPICE_Console_With_Portal
2. there are patches for various solutions to this coming (mime
based launched, spice.html5, novnc, maybe spice-xpi for firefox windows)
HTH,
Itamar
11:43 a.m.
I have seen this one before.Try adding the your ovirt manager to the
Internet Explorer trusted sites.
-DHC
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Itamar Heim <iheim(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On 03/18/2013 01:56 PM, Juan Jose wrote:
> Hello Itamar and everybody,
>
> I have tested this Howto with a Windows 7 Enterprise edition client and
> IE 9 and when you click over console button in User portal virt-viewer
> is launched but after one second it close windows and don't connect to
> virtual machine. I have oVirt 3.1 and I'm thinking in migrate my system
> to oVirt 3.2 but it will be nice to know which it is the reason because
> it doesn't work. Some indications about what would be the problem will
> be wellcome.
>
> If it is necessary some log I can provide it.
>
hard to help without logs (spice client to begin with).
will be easier helping/patching you on 3.2 of course.
> Many thanks,
>
> Juanjo.
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Itamar Heim <iheim(a)redhat.com
> <mailto:iheim@redhat.com>> wrote:
>
> On 02/28/2013 01:34 PM, Karli Sjöberg wrote:
>
> But to me one question arise, with a Windows clients, XP or
> 7, any
> version, it's possible to use the User Portal to be able
> users lauch
> the VM console?, or it's mandatory to have Fedora clients with
> spice-xpi for firefox.
>
> It would seem impossible with oVirt-3.1, which is the biggest
> reason why
> we cannot take into any real production at the moment:( What
> good does
> it do that it works with Fedora when the total of people using
> it counts
> to 1(me)?
>
>
> 1. there are wiki's on how to add spice windows support to ovirt:
> http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/**How_to_Connect_to_SPICE_**
>
Console_With_Portal<http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/How_to_Connect_to_SPICE...
>
> 2. there are patches for various solutions to this coming (mime
> based launched, spice.html5, novnc, maybe spice-xpi for firefox
> windows)
>
> HTH,
> Itamar
>
>
>
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On 3/18/2013 2:43 PM, Dead Horse wrote:
I have seen this one before.Try adding the your ovirt manager to the
Internet Explorer trusted sites.
-DHC
Hmm, that does indeed seem to fix it. I added the engine URL to the
trusted sites zone and unchecked the "Require server verification" box
and now I get a connected spice client. Thanks !
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Itamar Heim <iheim(a)redhat.com
<mailto:iheim@redhat.com>> wrote:
On 03/18/2013 01:56 PM, Juan Jose wrote:
Hello Itamar and everybody,
I have tested this Howto with a Windows 7 Enterprise edition
client and
IE 9 and when you click over console button in User portal
virt-viewer
is launched but after one second it close windows and don't
connect to
virtual machine. I have oVirt 3.1 and I'm thinking in migrate
my system
to oVirt 3.2 but it will be nice to know which it is the
reason because
it doesn't work. Some indications about what would be the
problem will
be wellcome.
If it is necessary some log I can provide it.
hard to help without logs (spice client to begin with).
will be easier helping/patching you on 3.2 of course.
Many thanks,
Juanjo.
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Itamar Heim
<iheim(a)redhat.com <mailto:iheim@redhat.com>
<mailto:iheim@redhat.com <mailto:iheim@redhat.com>>> wrote:
On 02/28/2013 01:34 PM, Karli Sjöberg wrote:
But to me one question arise, with a Windows
clients, XP or
7, any
version, it's possible to use the User Portal to
be able
users lauch
the VM console?, or it's mandatory to have Fedora
clients with
spice-xpi for firefox.
It would seem impossible with oVirt-3.1, which is the
biggest
reason why
we cannot take into any real production at the
moment:( What
good does
it do that it works with Fedora when the total of
people using
it counts
to 1(me)?
1. there are wiki's on how to add spice windows support to
ovirt:
http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/How_to_Connect_to_SPICE_Console_With_Portal
2. there are patches for various solutions to this coming
(mime
based launched, spice.html5, novnc, maybe spice-xpi for
firefox windows)
HTH,
Itamar
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On 3/18/2013 7:56 AM, Juan Jose wrote:
Hello Itamar and everybody,
I have tested this Howto with a Windows 7 Enterprise edition client
and IE 9 and when you click over console button in User portal
virt-viewer is launched but after one second it close windows and
don't connect to virtual machine. I have oVirt 3.1 and I'm thinking in
migrate my system to oVirt 3.2 but it will be nice to know which it is
the reason because it doesn't work. Some indications about what would
be the problem will be wellcome.
This is exactly the same thing I get. 3.2 doesn't help. The spicex log
says that it can't connect to the spice client pipe. This is with both
the admin portal and the user portal.
If it is necessary some log I can provide it.
Many thanks,
Juanjo.
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Itamar Heim <iheim(a)redhat.com
<mailto:iheim@redhat.com>> wrote:
On 02/28/2013 01:34 PM, Karli Sjöberg wrote:
But to me one question arise, with a Windows clients, XP
or 7, any
version, it's possible to use the User Portal to be able
users lauch
the VM console?, or it's mandatory to have Fedora clients with
spice-xpi for firefox.
It would seem impossible with oVirt-3.1, which is the biggest
reason why
we cannot take into any real production at the moment:( What
good does
it do that it works with Fedora when the total of people using
it counts
to 1(me)?
1. there are wiki's on how to add spice windows support to ovirt:
http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/How_to_Connect_to_SPICE_Console_With_Portal
2. there are patches for various solutions to this coming (mime
based launched, spice.html5, novnc, maybe spice-xpi for firefox
windows)
HTH,
Itamar
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On 03/19/2013 12:05 AM, Jeff Bailey wrote:
On 3/18/2013 7:56 AM, Juan Jose wrote:
> Hello Itamar and everybody,
>
> I have tested this Howto with a Windows 7 Enterprise edition client
> and IE 9 and when you click over console button in User portal
> virt-viewer is launched but after one second it close windows and
> don't connect to virtual machine. I have oVirt 3.1 and I'm thinking in
> migrate my system to oVirt 3.2 but it will be nice to know which it is
> the reason because it doesn't work. Some indications about what would
> be the problem will be wellcome.
>
This is exactly the same thing I get. 3.2 doesn't help. The spicex log
says that it can't connect to the spice client pipe. This is with both
the admin portal and the user portal.
adding spice-devel for their input
> If it is necessary some log I can provide it.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Juanjo.
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Itamar Heim <iheim(a)redhat.com
> <mailto:iheim@redhat.com>> wrote:
>
> On 02/28/2013 01:34 PM, Karli Sjöberg wrote:
>
> But to me one question arise, with a Windows clients, XP
> or 7, any
> version, it's possible to use the User Portal to be able
> users lauch
> the VM console?, or it's mandatory to have Fedora clients
> with
> spice-xpi for firefox.
>
> It would seem impossible with oVirt-3.1, which is the biggest
> reason why
> we cannot take into any real production at the moment:( What
> good does
> it do that it works with Fedora when the total of people using
> it counts
> to 1(me)?
>
>
> 1. there are wiki's on how to add spice windows support to ovirt:
>
> http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/How_to_Connect_to_SPICE_Console_With_Portal
>
> 2. there are patches for various solutions to this coming (mime
> based launched, spice.html5, novnc, maybe spice-xpi for firefox
> windows)
>
> HTH,
> Itamar
>
>
>
>
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Hey,
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:08:13AM +0200, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 03/19/2013 12:05 AM, Jeff Bailey wrote:
>On 3/18/2013 7:56 AM, Juan Jose wrote:
>>Hello Itamar and everybody,
>>
>>I have tested this Howto with a Windows 7 Enterprise edition client
>>and IE 9 and when you click over console button in User portal
>>virt-viewer is launched but after one second it close windows and
>>don't connect to virtual machine. I have oVirt 3.1 and I'm thinking in
>>migrate my system to oVirt 3.2 but it will be nice to know which it is
>>the reason because it doesn't work. Some indications about what would
>>be the problem will be wellcome.
>>
>
>This is exactly the same thing I get. 3.2 doesn't help. The spicex log
>says that it can't connect to the spice client pipe. This is with both
>the admin portal and the user portal.
=20
adding spice-devel for their input
As far as I know, there haven't been public spicex releases, so I'm not
sure where this spicex used with oVirt comes from.
Christophe
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On 3/19/2013 11:05 AM, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
Hey,
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:08:13AM +0200, Itamar Heim wrote:
> On 03/19/2013 12:05 AM, Jeff Bailey wrote:
>> On 3/18/2013 7:56 AM, Juan Jose wrote:
>>> Hello Itamar and everybody,
>>>
>>> I have tested this Howto with a Windows 7 Enterprise edition client
>>> and IE 9 and when you click over console button in User portal
>>> virt-viewer is launched but after one second it close windows and
>>> don't connect to virtual machine. I have oVirt 3.1 and I'm thinking
in
>>> migrate my system to oVirt 3.2 but it will be nice to know which it is
>>> the reason because it doesn't work. Some indications about what would
>>> be the problem will be wellcome.
>>>
>> This is exactly the same thing I get. 3.2 doesn't help. The spicex log
>> says that it can't connect to the spice client pipe. This is with both
>> the admin portal and the user portal.
> adding spice-devel for their input
As far as I know, there haven't been public spicex releases, so I'm not
sure where this spicex used with oVirt comes from.
I was referring to the log file named "spicex" related to the activex
plugin. Adding the engine url to the IE trusted zone fixed my problem
though.
Christophe
2:20 a.m.
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On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 05:11:56PM -0400, Jeff Bailey wrote:
On 3/19/2013 11:05 AM, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
>As far as I know, there haven't been public spicex releases, so I'm not
>sure where this spicex used with oVirt comes from.
=20
I was referring to the log file named "spicex" related to the
activex plugin.
Yes, I got that part, but same answer, as far as I know there hasn't been
any public releases of the activex plugin ;)
Christophe
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New subject: [Users] [Spice-devel] 3.2 final and status of spice console in ie
Hello Christophe, Jeff and everybody,
I will add the engine url to the IE trusted zone and I will do a test. in
this moment I have any other issue and when I solve this I will test. Many
thanks,
Juanjo.
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Christophe Fergeau <cfergeau(a)redhat.com>wrote:
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 05:11:56PM -0400, Jeff Bailey wrote:
> On 3/19/2013 11:05 AM, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
> >As far as I know, there haven't been public spicex releases, so I'm not
> >sure where this spicex used with oVirt comes from.
>
> I was referring to the log file named "spicex" related to the
> activex plugin.
Yes, I got that part, but same answer, as far as I know there hasn't been
any public releases of the activex plugin ;)
Christophe
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On 3/20/2013 5:20 AM, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 05:11:56PM -0400, Jeff Bailey wrote:
> On 3/19/2013 11:05 AM, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
>> As far as I know, there haven't been public spicex releases, so I'm not
>> sure where this spicex used with oVirt comes from.
> I was referring to the log file named "spicex" related to the
> activex plugin.
Yes, I got that part, but same answer, as far as I know there hasn't been
any public releases of the activex plugin ;)
Heh, heh, maybe it's a secret. :)
Actually, I believe I got it from
http://elmarco.fedorapeople.org/spice.cab and it seems to be version
5.0.2.2.
Christophe
5:40 a.m.
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Ja, Ja, of course not, I have had a power failure in my test installation
and I have lost all my VMs and now I have already sent a mail to this list
to ask if it is possible to have some workaround about that because I'm in
a kind of loop. I can't Activate my Master domain storage because it is
empty and my Default Data Center can't be enable. In the other hand I have
in my Admin portal some Templates and VMs that they don't exist and I can't
delete because I need Data Center on-line.
I guess that I will have to clean DB o something like that. I'm waiting if
some king of workaround to this issue exists. If you now how to manage this
I will be happy to listen you, sorry, read you.
Many thanks in avanced,
Juanjo.
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Jeff Bailey <bailey(a)cs.kent.edu> wrote:
On 3/20/2013 5:20 AM, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 05:11:56PM -0400, Jeff Bailey wrote:
>
>> On 3/19/2013 11:05 AM, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
>>
>>> As far as I know, there haven't been public spicex releases, so I'm
not
>>> sure where this spicex used with oVirt comes from.
>>>
>> I was referring to the log file named "spicex" related to the
>> activex plugin.
>>
> Yes, I got that part, but same answer, as far as I know there hasn't been
> any public releases of the activex plugin ;)
>
Heh, heh, maybe it's a secret. :)
Actually, I believe I got it from
http://elmarco.fedorapeople.org/spice.cab and it seems to be version
5.0.2.2.
Christophe
>
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On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Jeff Bailey wrote:
On 3/20/2013 5:20 AM, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 05:11:56PM -0400, Jeff Bailey wrote:
Heh, heh, maybe it's a secret. :)
Actually, I believe I got it from http://elmarco.fedorapeople.org/spice.cab
and it seems to be version 5.0.2.2.
As already pointed in another mail of this same thread from Michal
Skrivanek (about a month ago), the info is at
http://wiki.ovirt.org/How_to_Connect_to_SPICE_Console_With_Portal
and the page indeed contains the same link to spice.cab file you are referring
so possibly difficult to find but not a secret... ;-)
Gianluca
5:36 a.m.
New subject: [Users] [Spice-devel] 3.2 final and status of spice console in ie
Hello evrybody,
I'm testing open console in a Windows 7 client with IE 9 and when I try to
click in console when I'm inside User Portal with wirt-viewer installad, it
is launched but and virt-viewer give me the message "Unable to connect to
graphic server" and It can't connect to my VM. Any suggest?
Many thanks in avanced,
Juanjo.
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Gianluca Cecchi
<gianluca.cecchi(a)gmail.com>wrote:
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Jeff Bailey wrote:
> On 3/20/2013 5:20 AM, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 05:11:56PM -0400, Jeff Bailey wrote:
>
> Heh, heh, maybe it's a secret. :)
>
> Actually, I believe I got it from
http://elmarco.fedorapeople.org/spice.cab
> and it seems to be version 5.0.2.2.
>
As already pointed in another mail of this same thread from Michal
Skrivanek (about a month ago), the info is at
http://wiki.ovirt.org/How_to_Connect_to_SPICE_Console_With_Portal
and the page indeed contains the same link to spice.cab file you are
referring
so possibly difficult to find but not a secret... ;-)
Gianluca
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Hi Juan,
Juan Jose píše v Po 08. 04. 2013 v 14:36 +0200:
Hello evrybody,
I'm testing open console in a Windows 7 client with IE 9 and when I
try to click in console when I'm inside User Portal with wirt-viewer
installad, it is launched but and virt-viewer give me the message
"Unable to connect to graphic server" and It can't connect to my VM.
Any suggest?
I've described the debugging steps on this list in the past, please look
them up and go through spicex.log. If that isn't sufficient, please use
debug-helper.exe (IIRC I described it in another mail here) to get
remote-viewer debug output.
HTH,
David
Many thanks in avanced,
Juanjo.
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Gianluca Cecchi
<gianluca.cecchi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Jeff Bailey wrote:
> On 3/20/2013 5:20 AM, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 05:11:56PM -0400, Jeff Bailey
wrote:
>
> Heh, heh, maybe it's a secret. :)
>
> Actually, I believe I got it from
http://elmarco.fedorapeople.org/spice.cab
> and it seems to be version 5.0.2.2.
>
As already pointed in another mail of this same thread from
Michal
Skrivanek (about a month ago), the info is at
http://wiki.ovirt.org/How_to_Connect_to_SPICE_Console_With_Portal
and the page indeed contains the same link to spice.cab file
you are referring
so possibly difficult to find but not a secret... ;-)
Gianluca
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Hello David,
My problem was that I needed to add my host to
\windows\system32\driver\etc\hosts file moreover to have virt-viewer
installed in the Windows 7 client. Now I can open the console after that.
Many thanks,
Juanjo.
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 4:23 PM, David Jaša <djasa(a)redhat.com> wrote:
Hi Juan,
Juan Jose píše v Po 08. 04. 2013 v 14:36 +0200:
>
> Hello evrybody,
>
>
> I'm testing open console in a Windows 7 client with IE 9 and when I
> try to click in console when I'm inside User Portal with wirt-viewer
> installad, it is launched but and virt-viewer give me the message
> "Unable to connect to graphic server" and It can't connect to my VM.
> Any suggest?
I've described the debugging steps on this list in the past, please look
them up and go through spicex.log. If that isn't sufficient, please use
debug-helper.exe (IIRC I described it in another mail here) to get
remote-viewer debug output.
HTH,
David
>
>
> Many thanks in avanced,
>
>
> Juanjo.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Gianluca Cecchi
> <gianluca.cecchi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Jeff Bailey wrote:
> > On 3/20/2013 5:20 AM, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 05:11:56PM -0400, Jeff Bailey
> wrote:
> >
>
> > Heh, heh, maybe it's a secret. :)
> >
> > Actually, I believe I got it from
> http://elmarco.fedorapeople.org/spice.cab
> > and it seems to be version 5.0.2.2.
> >
>
>
>
> As already pointed in another mail of this same thread from
> Michal
> Skrivanek (about a month ago), the info is at
>
http://wiki.ovirt.org/How_to_Connect_to_SPICE_Console_With_Portal
> and the page indeed contains the same link to spice.cab file
> you are referring
> so possibly difficult to find but not a secret... ;-)
>
> Gianluca
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