VNC console extremely slow on windows 10
------=_Part_8478208_180746044.1487006648666 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello,=20 Since my company laptop has been migrated to from windows 7 to windows 10, = launching a console on oVirt 4.0 (and 4.1) VMs which are configured with VN= C graphics is extremely slow (around one refresh every 10 seconds). This is= painfully slow and barely usable. The same console on SPICE graphics works= perfectly.=20 This is specially annoying since oVirt engine installation console works on= ly with VNC in my build. I'm installing oVirt 4.1 on a test cluster, this m= akes my life very hard :(=20 So, now I'm not sure this is an issue with oVirt, remote-viewer (for window= s) or windows 10.=20 Does anybody else have this problem? any advice?=20 cordialement, regards,=20 =09Nelson LAMEIRAS=20 Ing=C3=A9nieur Syst=C3=A8mes et R=C3=A9seaux / Systems and Networks enginee= r=20 Tel: +33 5 32 09 09 70=20 nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com=20 www.lyra-network.com | www.payzen.eu=20 =09 =09 =09 Lyra Network, 109 rue de l'innovation, 31670 Lab=C3=A8ge, FRANCE=20 ------=_Part_8478208_180746044.1487006648666 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_Part_8478209_1696867783.1487006648666" ------=_Part_8478209_1696867783.1487006648666 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-s= ize: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Hello,<br></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"= 1"></div><div>Since my company laptop has been migrated to from windows 7 t= o windows 10, launching a console on oVirt 4.0 (and 4.1) VMs which are conf= igured with VNC graphics is extremely slow (around one refresh every 10 sec= onds). This is painfully slow and barely usable. The same console on SPICE = graphics works perfectly.<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-b= ogus=3D"1"></div><div>This is specially annoying since oVirt engine install= ation console works only with VNC in my build. I'm installing oVirt 4.1 on = a test cluster, this makes my life very hard :(<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></d= iv><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>So, now I'm not sure this is an= issue with oVirt, remote-viewer (for windows) or windows 10.<br data-mce-b= ogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Does anybody else= have this problem? any advice?<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br></di= v><div data-marker=3D"__SIG_PRE__"><div>cordialement, regards,</div><div><b= r data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><table style=3D"margin: 0px; table-layout: fix= ed; border: none; width: 345pt; padding: 0px;" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0p= x; table-layout: fixed; border: none; width: 345pt; padding: 0px;" width=3D= "460" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td style= =3D"margin: 0; font-size: 11px; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #2b3c= 7a; line-height: 16px; width: 86.25pt; text-align: left;" data-mce-style=3D= "margin: 0; font-size: 11px; font-family: 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On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 7:24 PM, Nelson Lameiras < nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com> wrote:
Hello,
Since my company laptop has been migrated to from windows 7 to windows 10, launching a console on oVirt 4.0 (and 4.1) VMs which are configured with VNC graphics is extremely slow (around one refresh every 10 seconds). This is painfully slow and barely usable. The same console on SPICE graphics works perfectly.
So you suspect the issue is on the client side? Can you verify with a Windows 7 laptop that the performance is good?
This is specially annoying since oVirt engine installation console works only with VNC in my build. I'm installing oVirt 4.1 on a test cluster, this makes my life very hard :(
What oVirt installation needs VNC? Y.
So, now I'm not sure this is an issue with oVirt, remote-viewer (for windows) or windows 10.
Does anybody else have this problem? any advice?
cordialement, regards,
<https://www.lyra-network.com/> Nelson LAMEIRAS Ingénieur Systèmes et Réseaux / Systems and Networks engineer Tel: +33 5 32 09 09 70 <+33%205%2032%2009%2009%2070> nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com www.lyra-network.com | www.payzen.eu <https://payzen.eu> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrVl1CO_Jlu3KbiRH-tQ_vA> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/lyra-network_2> <https://twitter.com/LyraNetwork> <https://payzen.eu> ------------------------------ Lyra Network, 109 rue de l'innovation, 31670 Labège, FRANCE
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------=_Part_1440096_1118768913.1487338471287 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yaniv,=20 I've done some extensive investigation, and my conclusions so far bring som= e new light to this issue :=20 As you have hinted, this is not a problem related to windows 10, as I was a= ble to reproduce it with any laptop/system with windows 7 or 10. In fact, I= do not find any evidence that VNC console works OK with any windows (maybe= is our hardware?? =3D> we use DELL). I'm not sure anymore it did work in t= he past...=20 This is a problem related only with VNC consoles on virtual machines using = windows client. SPICE works great under windows. VNC console works OK with = remote viewer under centos.=20 I found out something interesting : as I said, console is so slow that it b= earebly useable (1 refresh every 10 seconds) but if I alt+tab twice (change= focus off and on) it will refresh immediatly. This seems to me as a client= issue... not a oVirt issue. So maybe I should take this issue with remote = viewer team ?=20 To answer your last question : "What oVirt installation needs VNC? " Indeed= , oVirt hosted-engine installation needs a console and it proposes VNC and = SPICE (vnc is default). SPICE console asks for a certificate configuration = that I did not spent the necessary time to make it work as VNC works right = out of the box (even if there is the refresh rate problem).=20 any information or hint to find a solution would be appreciated. thanks=20 cordialement, regards,=20 =09Nelson LAMEIRAS=20 Ing=C3=A9nieur Syst=C3=A8mes et R=C3=A9seaux / Systems and Networks enginee= r=20 Tel: +33 5 32 09 09 70=20 nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com=20 www.lyra-network.com | www.payzen.eu=20 =09 =09 =09 Lyra Network, 109 rue de l'innovation, 31670 Lab=C3=A8ge, FRANCE=20 From: "Yaniv Kaul" <ykaul@redhat.com>=20 To: "Nelson Lameiras" <nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com>=20 Cc: "Ovirt Users" <users@ovirt.org>=20 Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 7:21:36 PM=20 Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] VNC console extremely slow on windows 10=20 On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 7:24 PM, Nelson Lameiras < nelson.lameiras@lyra-net= work.com > wrote:=20 Hello,=20 Since my company laptop has been migrated to from windows 7 to windows 10, = launching a console on oVirt 4.0 (and 4.1) VMs which are configured with VN= C graphics is extremely slow (around one refresh every 10 seconds). This is= painfully slow and barely usable. The same console on SPICE graphics works= perfectly.=20 So you suspect the issue is on the client side? Can you verify with a Windo= ws 7 laptop that the performance is good?=20 BQ_BEGIN This is specially annoying since oVirt engine installation console works on= ly with VNC in my build. I'm installing oVirt 4.1 on a test cluster, this m= akes my life very hard :(=20 BQ_END What oVirt installation needs VNC?=20 Y.=20 BQ_BEGIN So, now I'm not sure this is an issue with oVirt, remote-viewer (for window= s) or windows 10.=20 Does anybody else have this problem? any advice?=20 cordialement, regards,=20 =09Nelson LAMEIRAS=20 Ing=C3=A9nieur Syst=C3=A8mes et R=C3=A9seaux / Systems and Networks enginee= r=20 Tel: +33 5 32 09 09 70=20 nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com=20 www.lyra-network.com | www.payzen.eu=20 =09 =09 =09 Lyra Network, 109 rue de l'innovation, 31670 Lab=C3=A8ge, FRANCE=20 _______________________________________________=20 Users mailing list=20 Users@ovirt.org=20 http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users=20 BQ_END ------=_Part_1440096_1118768913.1487338471287 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_Part_1440097_288280614.1487338471287" ------=_Part_1440097_288280614.1487338471287 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-s= ize: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Yaniv,<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><= br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>I've done some extensive investigation, = and my conclusions so far bring some new light to this issue :<br></div><di= v><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>As you have hinted, this is not a pro= blem related to windows 10, as I was able to reproduce it with any laptop/s= ystem with windows 7 or 10. In fact, I do not find any evidence that VNC co= nsole works OK with any windows (maybe is our hardware?? =3D> we use DEL= L). 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This is= painfully slow and barely usable. The same console on SPICE graphics works= perfectly.<br></div></div></div></blockquote><br><div>So you suspect the i= ssue is on the client side? Can you verify with a Windows 7 laptop that the= performance is good?</div><div> <br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_= quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1= ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12p= t;color:#000000"><br><div>This is specially annoying since oVirt engine ins= tallation console works only with VNC in my build. I'm installing oVirt 4.1= on a test cluster, this makes my life very hard :(<br></div></div></div></= blockquote><br><div>What oVirt installation needs VNC? </div><div>&nbs= p;Y.</div><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;= border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family= :arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000"><br><div>So, now = I'm not sure this is an issue with oVirt, remote-viewer (for windows) or wi= ndows 10.<br></div><br><div>Does anybody else have this problem? any advice= ?<br></div><br><div><div>cordialement, regards,</div><br><table style=3D"ma= rgin:0px;table-layout:fixed;border:none;width:345pt;padding:0px" width=3D"4= 60" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td style= =3D"margin:0;font-size:11px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#2b3c7a;line= -height:16px;width:86.25pt;text-align:left" width=3D"115" valign=3D"top"><a= href=3D"https://www.lyra-network.com/" style=3D"border:none;text-decoratio= n:none;width:100%;display:block;clear:both" target=3D"_blank"><img src=3D"c= id:0e25a29c09e0a606ebb40f3ab356ecabc4303510@zimbra" alt=3D"" height=3D"94" = width=3D"115" border=3D"0"></a><br></td><td style=3D"margin:0;font-size:11p= x;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#2b3c7a;line-height:16px;width:258.75p= t" width=3D"345" valign=3D"top"><table style=3D"margin:0;width:258.75pt;tab= le-layout:fixed;border:none" width=3D"345" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D= "0" border=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:Arial,s= ans-serif;color:#2b3c7a;line-height:18px;font-weight:bold">Nelson LAMEIRAS<= /td></tr><tr><td style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#2b3c7a;font-s= ize:11px;line-height:16px">Ing=C3=A9nieur Syst=C3=A8mes et R=C3=A9seaux<spa= n style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#337ab7;font-size:11px"> / Sy= stems and Networks engineer</span></td></tr><tr><td style=3D"line-height:16= px;font-family:'Arial',sans-serif;color:#2b3c7a;font-size:11px"><span style= =3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#2b3c7a;font-size:11px">Tel: <a href= =3D"tel:+33%205%2032%2009%2009%2070" target=3D"_blank">+33 5 32 09 09 70</a= tr></tbody></table><table style=3D"margin:0;table-layout:fixed;border:none;= width:345pt" width=3D"460" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0"><tbody><tr><= td><hr style=3D"background:#293b79 none repeat scroll 0% 0%;width:100%;heig= ht:4px;color:#293b79;margin:0px"></td></tr></tbody></table><table style=3D"= margin:0;table-layout:fixed;border:none;width:345pt" width=3D"460" cellspac= ing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td style=3D"margin:0;font-size:11px= ;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#2b3c7a;line-height:16px;width:30.75pt;= text-align:left"><div>Lyra Network, 109 rue de l'innovation, 31670 Lab=C3= =A8ge, FRANCE</div></td></tr></tbody></table><br></div></div></div><br>____= ___________________________________________<br> Users mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:Users@ovirt.org" target=3D"_blank">Users@ovirt.org</a><br=
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On 17 Feb 2017, at 14:34, Nelson Lameiras = <nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com> wrote: =20 Yaniv, =20 I've done some extensive investigation, and my conclusions so far = bring some new light to this issue : =20 As you have hinted, this is not a problem related to windows 10, as I = was able to reproduce it with any laptop/system with windows 7 or 10. In = fact, I do not find any evidence that VNC console works OK with any = windows (maybe is our hardware?? =3D> we use DELL). I'm not sure anymore = it did work in the past... =20 This is a problem related only with VNC consoles on virtual machines = using windows client. SPICE works great under windows. VNC console works = OK with remote viewer under centos. =20 I found out something interesting : as I said, console is so slow that = it bearebly useable (1 refresh every 10 seconds) but if I alt+tab twice = (change focus off and on) it will refresh immediatly. This seems to me = as a client issue... not a oVirt issue. So maybe I should take this = issue with remote viewer team ?
=20 To answer your last question : "What oVirt installation needs VNC? " = Indeed, oVirt hosted-engine installation needs a console and it proposes = VNC and SPICE (vnc is default). SPICE console asks for a certificate = configuration that I did not spent the necessary time to make it work as = VNC works right out of the box (even if there is the refresh rate =
=20 any information or hint to find a solution would be appreciated. =
sounds like a good idea, SPICE people will be likely able to help problem). ok, we=E2=80=99re finally adding headless VM option, but indeed for now = you do not have any better choice for HE. But at least you do not really = have to use it, right? You should be able to work with it over ssh. Thanks, michal thanks
=20 cordialement, regards, =20 <element-signature_logo_lyra_115x94.jpg> <https://www.lyra-network.com/> Nelson LAMEIRAS Ing=C3=A9nieur Syst=C3=A8mes et R=C3=A9seaux / Systems and Networks = engineer Tel: +33 5 32 09 09 70 nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com = <mailto:nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com> www.lyra-network.com <https://www.lyra-network.com/> | www.payzen.eu = <https://payzen.eu/> <element-signature_logo_YouTube_32x28.jpg> = <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrVl1CO_Jlu3KbiRH-tQ_vA> <element-signature_logo_LinkedIn_41x28.jpg> = <https://www.linkedin.com/company/lyra-network_2> <element-signature_logo_Twitter_42x28.jpg> = <https://twitter.com/LyraNetwork> <element-signature_payzen_61x28.jpg> <https://payzen.eu/> Lyra Network, 109 rue de l'innovation, 31670 Lab=C3=A8ge, FRANCE =20 =20 From: "Yaniv Kaul" <ykaul@redhat.com> To: "Nelson Lameiras" <nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com> Cc: "Ovirt Users" <users@ovirt.org> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 7:21:36 PM Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] VNC console extremely slow on windows 10 =20 =20 =20 On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 7:24 PM, Nelson Lameiras = <nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com = <mailto:nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com>> wrote: Hello, =20 Since my company laptop has been migrated to from windows 7 to windows = 10, launching a console on oVirt 4.0 (and 4.1) VMs which are configured = with VNC graphics is extremely slow (around one refresh every 10 = seconds). This is painfully slow and barely usable. The same console on = SPICE graphics works perfectly. =20 So you suspect the issue is on the client side? Can you verify with a = Windows 7 laptop that the performance is good? =20 =20 This is specially annoying since oVirt engine installation console = works only with VNC in my build. I'm installing oVirt 4.1 on a test = cluster, this makes my life very hard :( =20 What oVirt installation needs VNC?=20 Y. =20 =20 So, now I'm not sure this is an issue with oVirt, remote-viewer (for = windows) or windows 10. =20 Does anybody else have this problem? any advice? =20 cordialement, regards, =20 <element-signature_logo_lyra_115x94.jpg> <https://www.lyra-network.com/> Nelson LAMEIRAS Ing=C3=A9nieur Syst=C3=A8mes et R=C3=A9seaux / Systems and Networks = engineer Tel: +33 5 32 09 09 70 <tel:+33%205%2032%2009%2009%2070> nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com = <mailto:nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com> www.lyra-network.com <https://www.lyra-network.com/> | www.payzen.eu = <https://payzen.eu/> <element-signature_logo_YouTube_32x28.jpg> = <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrVl1CO_Jlu3KbiRH-tQ_vA> <element-signature_logo_LinkedIn_41x28.jpg> = <https://www.linkedin.com/company/lyra-network_2> <element-signature_logo_Twitter_42x28.jpg> = <https://twitter.com/LyraNetwork> <element-signature_payzen_61x28.jpg> <https://payzen.eu/> Lyra Network, 109 rue de l'innovation, 31670 Lab=C3=A8ge, FRANCE =20 =20 _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users = <http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users> =20 =20 _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
--Apple-Mail=_D2A364C3-890B-473C-9E52-4700C590AA4B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html = charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" = class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div = class=3D"">On 17 Feb 2017, at 14:34, Nelson Lameiras <<a = href=3D"mailto:nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com" = class=3D"">nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com</a>> wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div = style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" = class=3D""><div class=3D"">Yaniv,<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1" = class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1" = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I've done some extensive investigation, = and my conclusions so far bring some new light to this issue :<br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1" = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">As you have hinted, this is not a = problem related to windows 10, as I was able to reproduce it with any = laptop/system with windows 7 or 10. In fact, I do not find any evidence = that VNC console works OK with any windows (maybe is our hardware?? = =3D> we use DELL). I'm not sure anymore it did work in the past...<br = data-mce-bogus=3D"1" class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br = data-mce-bogus=3D"1" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">This is a problem = related only with VNC consoles on virtual machines using windows client. = SPICE works great under windows. VNC console works OK with remote viewer = under centos.<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1" class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br= data-mce-bogus=3D"1" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I found out = something interesting : as I said, console is so slow that it bearebly = useable (1 refresh every 10 seconds) but if I alt+tab twice (change = focus off and on) it will refresh immediatly. This seems to me as a = client issue... not a oVirt issue. So maybe I should take this issue = with remote viewer team ?<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1" = class=3D""></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br = class=3D""></div>sounds like a good idea, SPICE people will be likely = able to help</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"= class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: = arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><div = class=3D""><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">To = answer your last question : "What oVirt installation needs VNC? " = Indeed, oVirt hosted-engine installation needs a console and it proposes = VNC and SPICE (vnc is default). SPICE console asks for a certificate = configuration that I did not spent the necessary time to make it work as = VNC works right out of the box (even if there is the refresh rate = problem).<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1" = class=3D""></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br = class=3D""></div>ok, we=E2=80=99re finally adding headless VM = option, but indeed for now you do not have any better choice for HE. But = at least you do not really have to use it, right? You should be able to = work with it over ssh.</div><div><br = class=3D""></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>michal</div><div><br = class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div = class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; = font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><div class=3D""><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1" = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">any information or hint to find a = solution would be appreciated. thanks<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1" = class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1" = class=3D""></div><div data-marker=3D"__SIG_PRE__" class=3D""><div = class=3D"">cordialement, regards,</div><div class=3D""><br = data-mce-bogus=3D"1" class=3D""></div><table style=3D"margin: 0px; = table-layout: fixed; border: none; width: 345pt; padding: 0px;" = data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0px; table-layout: fixed; border: none; width: = 345pt; padding: 0px;" width=3D"460" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" = border=3D"0" class=3D""><tbody class=3D""><tr class=3D""><td = style=3D"margin: 0; 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= font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #2b3c7a; line-height: 16px; width: = 258.75pt; text-align: left;" width=3D"345" valign=3D"top" class=3D""><a = href=3D"https://payzen.eu/" style=3D"border: none; text-decoration: = none; margin: 0; float: left; display: inline-block; width: 61px;" = data-mce-href=3D"https://payzen.eu" data-mce-style=3D"border: none; = text-decoration: none; margin: 0; float: left; display: inline-block; = width: 61px;" class=3D""><span = id=3D"cid:0cc7bdb7f910af408d0c3b550c8e021e38f9f003@zimbra"><element-sig= nature_payzen_61x28.jpg></span></a><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1" = class=3D""></td></tr></tbody></table><table style=3D"margin: 0; = table-layout: fixed; border: none; width: 345pt;" = data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0; table-layout: fixed; border: none; width: = 345pt;" width=3D"460" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" = class=3D""><tbody class=3D""><tr class=3D""><td class=3D""><hr = style=3D"background: #293b79 none repeat scroll 0% 0%; width: 100%; = height: 4px; color: #293b79; margin: 0px;" data-mce-style=3D"background: = #293b79 none repeat scroll 0% 0%; width: 100%; height: 4px; color: = #293b79; margin: 0px;" class=3D""></td></tr></tbody></table><table = style=3D"margin: 0; table-layout: fixed; border: none; width: 345pt;" = data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0; table-layout: fixed; border: none; width: = 345pt;" width=3D"460" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" = class=3D""><tbody class=3D""><tr class=3D""><td style=3D"margin: 0; = font-size: 11px; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #2b3c7a; = line-height: 16px; width: 30.75pt; text-align: left;" = data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0; font-size: 11px; font-family: = Arial,sans-serif; color: #2b3c7a; line-height: 16px; width: 30.75pt; = text-align: left;" class=3D""><div class=3D"">Lyra Network, 109 rue de = l'innovation, 31670 Lab=C3=A8ge, = FRANCE</div></td></tr></tbody></table><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><hr = id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__" class=3D""><div = data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__" class=3D""><b class=3D"">From: </b>"Yaniv = Kaul" <<a href=3D"mailto:ykaul@redhat.com" = class=3D"">ykaul@redhat.com</a>><br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To: = </b>"Nelson Lameiras" <<a = href=3D"mailto:nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com" = class=3D"">nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com</a>><br class=3D""><b = class=3D"">Cc: </b>"Ovirt Users" <<a href=3D"mailto:users@ovirt.org" = class=3D"">users@ovirt.org</a>><br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent: = </b>Monday, February 13, 2017 7:21:36 PM<br class=3D""><b = class=3D"">Subject: </b>Re: [ovirt-users] VNC console extremely slow on = windows 10<br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><br= class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br class=3D""><div = class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 7:24 PM, Nelson Lameiras = <span dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><<a = href=3D"mailto:nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com</a>></span> wrote:<br = class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 = .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D""><div = style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" = class=3D""><div class=3D"">Hello,<br class=3D""></div><br class=3D""><div = class=3D"">Since my company laptop has been migrated to from windows 7 = to windows 10, launching a console on oVirt 4.0 (and 4.1) VMs which are = configured with VNC graphics is extremely slow (around one refresh every = 10 seconds). This is painfully slow and barely usable. The same console = on SPICE graphics works perfectly.<br = class=3D""></div></div></div></blockquote><br class=3D""><div = class=3D"">So you suspect the issue is on the client side? Can you = verify with a Windows 7 laptop that the performance is good?</div><div = class=3D""> <br class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" = style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc = solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: = arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><br = class=3D""><div class=3D"">This is specially annoying since oVirt engine = installation console works only with VNC in my build. I'm installing = oVirt 4.1 on a test cluster, this makes my life very hard :(<br = class=3D""></div></div></div></blockquote><br class=3D""><div = class=3D"">What oVirt installation needs VNC? </div><div = class=3D""> Y.</div><br class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" = style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc = solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: = arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=3D""><br = class=3D""><div class=3D"">So, now I'm not sure this is an issue with = oVirt, remote-viewer (for windows) or windows 10.<br class=3D""></div><br = class=3D""><div class=3D"">Does anybody else have this problem? any = advice?<br class=3D""></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div = class=3D"">cordialement, regards,</div><br class=3D""><table = style=3D"margin:0px;table-layout:fixed;border:none;width:345pt;padding:0px= " width=3D"460" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" = class=3D""><tbody class=3D""><tr class=3D""><td = 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style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#2b3c7a;font-size:11px;line-he= ight:16px" class=3D"">Ing=C3=A9nieur Syst=C3=A8mes et R=C3=A9seaux<span = style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#337ab7;font-size:11px" = class=3D""> / Systems and Networks engineer</span></td></tr><tr = class=3D""><td = style=3D"line-height:16px;font-family:'Arial',sans-serif;color:#2b3c7a;fon= t-size:11px" class=3D""><span = style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#2b3c7a;font-size:11px" = class=3D"">Tel: <a href=3D"tel:+33%205%2032%2009%2009%2070" = target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">+33 5 32 09 09 70</a></span><br = data-mce-bogus=3D"1" class=3D""></td></tr><tr class=3D""><td = style=3D"line-height:16px;font-family:'Arial',sans-serif;color:#2b3c7a;fon= t-size:11px" class=3D""><a = href=3D"mailto:nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com" = style=3D"font-size:11px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;line-height:16px;text= -decoration:none" target=3D"_blank" = class=3D"">nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com</a><br = 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