11:58 a.m.
So the ovirt manager hard disk died, 3.3.4 version, i can't get it to spin
up to get any data off.
I have an old copy of the manager database which was living on the manager
machine.
What is the best procedure for restoring my ovirt setup? I've not been able
to import the data store, only export and iso in the past.
Thanks in advance,
David
12:08 p.m.
I meant ovirt-engine (i was calling it the manager)
also i'll need to reinstall version 3.3.4, whats the best path for that
w/restore?
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:58 AM, David Smith <dsmith(a)mypchelp.com> wrote:
So the ovirt manager hard disk died, 3.3.4 version, i can't get
it to spin
up to get any data off.
I have an old copy of the manager database which was living on the manager
machine.
What is the best procedure for restoring my ovirt setup? I've not been
able to import the data store, only export and iso in the past.
Thanks in advance,
David
12:17 p.m.
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On 05/22/2014 03:08 PM, David Smith wrote:
I meant ovirt-engine (i was calling it the manager)
also i'll need to reinstall version 3.3.4, whats the best path for
that w/restore?
One thing, if all else fails, is to convert your Export Domain to a Data
Domain with a few edits to the metadata.
Then install a fresh engine and import your old VMs.
Personally, I'd install the same version as you had previously, then
make sure you can attach your new Export domain (old Data domain), then
upgrade.
Some guides for conversion are in this thread:
http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2012-October/010258.html
http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2012-November/010273.html
Note that's from a while ago. I am not sure it still works exactly the
same. Make sure to backup your metadata file first.
I did something a bit similar earlier today, by editing the metadata on
an Export domain to remove information about the previously-attached
Data Center.
-Bob
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:58 AM, David Smith <dsmith(a)mypchelp.com
<mailto:dsmith@mypchelp.com>> wrote:
So the ovirt manager hard disk died, 3.3.4 version, i can't get it
to spin up to get any data off.
I have an old copy of the manager database which was living on the
manager machine.
What is the best procedure for restoring my ovirt setup? I've not
been able to import the data store, only export and iso in the past.
Thanks in advance,
David
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cite="mid:CAMKtzE_NBKDVkTZwsRsFdqFtgmgSocJBWTBeCy40S7sMtKhGzg@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>I meant ovirt-engine (i was calling it the manager)</div>
also i'll need to reinstall version 3.3.4, whats the best path
for that w/restore?</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
One thing, if all else fails, is to convert your Export Domain to a
Data Domain with a few edits to the metadata.<br>
Then install a fresh engine and import your old VMs.<br>
<br>
Personally, I'd install the same version as you had previously, then
make sure you can attach your new Export domain (old Data domain),
then upgrade.<br>
<br>
Some guides for conversion are in this thread:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2012-October/010258.htm...
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2012-November/010273.ht...
<br>
Note that's from a while ago. I am not sure it still works exactly
the same. Make sure to backup your metadata file first.<br>
<br>
I did something a bit similar earlier today, by editing the metadata
on an Export domain to remove information about the
previously-attached Data Center.<br>
<br>
-Bob<br>
<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CAMKtzE_NBKDVkTZwsRsFdqFtgmgSocJBWTBeCy40S7sMtKhGzg@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
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On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:58 AM, David Smith <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dsmith@mypchelp.com"
target="_blank">dsmith(a)mypchelp.com</a>&gt;</span>
wrote:<br>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">So the ovirt manager hard disk died, 3.3.4
version, i can't get it to spin up to get any data off.
<div>I have an old copy of the manager database which was
living on the manager machine.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>What is the best procedure for restoring my ovirt
setup? I've not been able to import the data store, only
export and iso in the past.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks in advance,</div>
<div>David</div>
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On 05/22/2014 03:17 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 05/22/2014 03:08 PM, David Smith wrote:
> I meant ovirt-engine (i was calling it the manager)
> also i'll need to reinstall version 3.3.4, whats the best path for
> that w/restore?
One thing, if all else fails, is to convert your Export Domain to a
Data Domain with a few edits to the metadata.
Grrr. Visa-versa. Convert to an Export Domain from your old Data Domain.
Then install a fresh engine and import your old VMs.
Personally, I'd install the same version as you had previously, then
make sure you can attach your new Export domain (old Data domain),
then upgrade.
Some guides for conversion are in this thread:
http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2012-October/010258.html
http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2012-November/010273.html
Note that's from a while ago. I am not sure it still works exactly the
same. Make sure to backup your metadata file first.
I did something a bit similar earlier today, by editing the metadata
on an Export domain to remove information about the
previously-attached Data Center.
-Bob
>
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:58 AM, David Smith <dsmith(a)mypchelp.com
> <mailto:dsmith@mypchelp.com>> wrote:
>
> So the ovirt manager hard disk died, 3.3.4 version, i can't get
> it to spin up to get any data off.
> I have an old copy of the manager database which was living on
> the manager machine.
>
> What is the best procedure for restoring my ovirt setup? I've not
> been able to import the data store, only export and iso in the past.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> David
>
>
>
>
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wrote:<br>
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On 05/22/2014 03:08 PM, David Smith wrote:<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CAMKtzE_NBKDVkTZwsRsFdqFtgmgSocJBWTBeCy40S7sMtKhGzg@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>I meant ovirt-engine (i was calling it the manager)</div>
also i'll need to reinstall version 3.3.4, whats the best path
for that w/restore?</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
One thing, if all else fails, is to convert your Export Domain to
a Data Domain with a few edits to the metadata.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Grrr. Visa-versa. Convert to an Export Domain from your old Data
Domain.<br>
<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:537E4D4C.5080404@doolittle.us.com"
type="cite">
Then install a fresh engine and import your old VMs.<br>
<br>
Personally, I'd install the same version as you had previously,
then make sure you can attach your new Export domain (old Data
domain), then upgrade.<br>
<br>
Some guides for conversion are in this thread:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2012-October/010258.htm...
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2012-November/010273.ht...
<br>
Note that's from a while ago. I am not sure it still works exactly
the same. Make sure to backup your metadata file first.<br>
<br>
I did something a bit similar earlier today, by editing the
metadata on an Export domain to remove information about the
previously-attached Data Center.<br>
<br>
-Bob<br>
<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CAMKtzE_NBKDVkTZwsRsFdqFtgmgSocJBWTBeCy40S7sMtKhGzg@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote"> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:58 AM,
David Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dsmith@mypchelp.com"
target="_blank">dsmith(a)mypchelp.com</a>&gt;</span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">So the ovirt manager hard disk died, 3.3.4
version, i can't get it to spin up to get any data off.
<div>I have an old copy of the manager database which
was living on the manager machine.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>What is the best procedure for restoring my ovirt
setup? I've not been able to import the data store,
only export and iso in the past.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks in advance,</div>
<div>David</div>
</div>
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Thanks Bob,
I had already gone through this path once early in my ovirt lifetime and
didn't get it working, I was able to make it happen this time. Thanks.
I was hoping for some other method, but this will work, it's going to be
slow-going to get everything online this way since we have to re-import
everything which essentially copies it all.
And with only 1 export domain allowed at a time, and 3 nfs machines, i'm
going to have to do them in sequence.. urgghhh
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Bob Doolittle <bob(a)doolittle.us.com>wrote:
On 05/22/2014 03:08 PM, David Smith wrote:
I meant ovirt-engine (i was calling it the manager)
also i'll need to reinstall version 3.3.4, whats the best path for that
w/restore?
One thing, if all else fails, is to convert your Export Domain to a Data
Domain with a few edits to the metadata.
Then install a fresh engine and import your old VMs.
Personally, I'd install the same version as you had previously, then make
sure you can attach your new Export domain (old Data domain), then upgrade.
Some guides for conversion are in this thread:
http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2012-October/010258.html
http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2012-November/010273.html
Note that's from a while ago. I am not sure it still works exactly the
same. Make sure to backup your metadata file first.
I did something a bit similar earlier today, by editing the metadata on an
Export domain to remove information about the previously-attached Data
Center.
-Bob
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:58 AM, David Smith <dsmith(a)mypchelp.com>wrote:
> So the ovirt manager hard disk died, 3.3.4 version, i can't get it to
> spin up to get any data off.
> I have an old copy of the manager database which was living on the
> manager machine.
>
> What is the best procedure for restoring my ovirt setup? I've not been
> able to import the data store, only export and iso in the past.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> David
>
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11:47 p.m.
Hey Bob,
Get this.. So this process worked great for one of the nfs servers,
however, we had two nfs servers. One was a primary data center (master) and
the other non-master.
When I try to import the non-master data directory with the metadata file
edit method, it imports but then shows no VMs/templates/etc available for
import.
On the other hand, when i activate the master data center nfs filesystem, i
can see VMs that were stored on the non-master NFS, if I try to import
them, it blows an error, the files aren't there, and I look at the log on
the hv manager and I see the folder that it's looking for which is on the
non-master NFS.
Right now I'm trying to copy the folders over from the non-master nfs to
the imported master data (now export domain) to see if I can import those
VMs.
I wonder if there's a better way to import VMs from a non-master domain.
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Bob Doolittle <bob(a)doolittle.us.com>wrote:
On 05/22/2014 03:08 PM, David Smith wrote:
I meant ovirt-engine (i was calling it the manager)
also i'll need to reinstall version 3.3.4, whats the best path for that
w/restore?
One thing, if all else fails, is to convert your Export Domain to a Data
Domain with a few edits to the metadata.
Then install a fresh engine and import your old VMs.
Personally, I'd install the same version as you had previously, then make
sure you can attach your new Export domain (old Data domain), then upgrade.
Some guides for conversion are in this thread:
http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2012-October/010258.html
http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2012-November/010273.html
Note that's from a while ago. I am not sure it still works exactly the
same. Make sure to backup your metadata file first.
I did something a bit similar earlier today, by editing the metadata on an
Export domain to remove information about the previously-attached Data
Center.
-Bob
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:58 AM, David Smith <dsmith(a)mypchelp.com>wrote:
> So the ovirt manager hard disk died, 3.3.4 version, i can't get it to
> spin up to get any data off.
> I have an old copy of the manager database which was living on the
> manager machine.
>
> What is the best procedure for restoring my ovirt setup? I've not been
> able to import the data store, only export and iso in the past.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> David
>
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3:56 a.m.
If you read the whole thread I referenced it says the conversion only works
for Master. It does not say how to handle non-Master. Good luck.
-Bob
On May 23, 2014 2:48 AM, "David Smith" <dsmith(a)mypchelp.com> wrote:
Hey Bob,
Get this.. So this process worked great for one of the nfs servers,
however, we had two nfs servers. One was a primary data center (master) and
the other non-master.
When I try to import the non-master data directory with the metadata file
edit method, it imports but then shows no VMs/templates/etc available for
import.
On the other hand, when i activate the master data center nfs filesystem,
i can see VMs that were stored on the non-master NFS, if I try to import
them, it blows an error, the files aren't there, and I look at the log on
the hv manager and I see the folder that it's looking for which is on the
non-master NFS.
Right now I'm trying to copy the folders over from the non-master nfs to
the imported master data (now export domain) to see if I can import those
VMs.
I wonder if there's a better way to import VMs from a non-master domain.
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Bob Doolittle <bob(a)doolittle.us.com>wrote:
> On 05/22/2014 03:08 PM, David Smith wrote:
>
> I meant ovirt-engine (i was calling it the manager)
> also i'll need to reinstall version 3.3.4, whats the best path for that
> w/restore?
>
>
> One thing, if all else fails, is to convert your Export Domain to a Data
> Domain with a few edits to the metadata.
> Then install a fresh engine and import your old VMs.
>
> Personally, I'd install the same version as you had previously, then make
> sure you can attach your new Export domain (old Data domain), then upgrade.
>
> Some guides for conversion are in this thread:
> http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2012-October/010258.html
> http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2012-November/010273.html
>
> Note that's from a while ago. I am not sure it still works exactly the
> same. Make sure to backup your metadata file first.
>
> I did something a bit similar earlier today, by editing the metadata on
> an Export domain to remove information about the previously-attached Data
> Center.
>
> -Bob
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:58 AM, David Smith <dsmith(a)mypchelp.com>wrote:
>
>> So the ovirt manager hard disk died, 3.3.4 version, i can't get it to
>> spin up to get any data off.
>> I have an old copy of the manager database which was living on the
>> manager machine.
>>
>> What is the best procedure for restoring my ovirt setup? I've not been
>> able to import the data store, only export and iso in the past.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> David
>>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing listUsers@ovirt.orghttp://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>
>
>
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10:28 a.m.
Hey Bob,
Yea my method worked. I was able to copy the non-master data center VM data
into the images folder on the master data center (now "export" domain) and
import everything.
This would have been tragic if there wasn't the hard disk space, would have
required lots of big data shuffling. I've split the data center model so
now we have two clusters with two masters, and will avoid using a
non-master data center entirely due to this issue.
The good news is it looks like we didn't lose any data.
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 3:56 AM, Bob Doolittle <bob(a)doolittle.us.com> wrote:
If you read the whole thread I referenced it says the conversion
only
works for Master. It does not say how to handle non-Master. Good luck.
-Bob
On May 23, 2014 2:48 AM, "David Smith" <dsmith(a)mypchelp.com> wrote:
> Hey Bob,
>
> Get this.. So this process worked great for one of the nfs servers,
> however, we had two nfs servers. One was a primary data center (master) and
> the other non-master.
> When I try to import the non-master data directory with the metadata file
> edit method, it imports but then shows no VMs/templates/etc available for
> import.
> On the other hand, when i activate the master data center nfs filesystem,
> i can see VMs that were stored on the non-master NFS, if I try to import
> them, it blows an error, the files aren't there, and I look at the log on
> the hv manager and I see the folder that it's looking for which is on the
> non-master NFS.
>
> Right now I'm trying to copy the folders over from the non-master nfs to
> the imported master data (now export domain) to see if I can import those
> VMs.
> I wonder if there's a better way to import VMs from a non-master domain.
>
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Bob Doolittle <bob(a)doolittle.us.com>wrote:
>
>> On 05/22/2014 03:08 PM, David Smith wrote:
>>
>> I meant ovirt-engine (i was calling it the manager)
>> also i'll need to reinstall version 3.3.4, whats the best path for that
>> w/restore?
>>
>>
>> One thing, if all else fails, is to convert your Export Domain to a Data
>> Domain with a few edits to the metadata.
>> Then install a fresh engine and import your old VMs.
>>
>> Personally, I'd install the same version as you had previously, then
>> make sure you can attach your new Export domain (old Data domain), then
>> upgrade.
>>
>> Some guides for conversion are in this thread:
>> http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2012-October/010258.html
>> http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2012-November/010273.html
>>
>> Note that's from a while ago. I am not sure it still works exactly the
>> same. Make sure to backup your metadata file first.
>>
>> I did something a bit similar earlier today, by editing the metadata on
>> an Export domain to remove information about the previously-attached Data
>> Center.
>>
>> -Bob
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:58 AM, David Smith <dsmith(a)mypchelp.com>wrote:
>>
>>> So the ovirt manager hard disk died, 3.3.4 version, i can't get it to
>>> spin up to get any data off.
>>> I have an old copy of the manager database which was living on the
>>> manager machine.
>>>
>>> What is the best procedure for restoring my ovirt setup? I've not
>>> been able to import the data store, only export and iso in the past.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> David
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Users mailing listUsers@ovirt.orghttp://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>>
>>
>>
>
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>
>
1:29 a.m.
On 05/23/2014 01:28 PM, David Smith wrote:
Hey Bob,
Yea my method worked. I was able to copy the non-master data center VM
data into the images folder on the master data center (now "export"
domain) and import everything.
This would have been tragic if there wasn't the hard disk space, would
have required lots of big data shuffling. I've split the data center
model so now we have two clusters with two masters, and will avoid using
a non-master data center entirely due to this issue.
The good news is it looks like we didn't lose any data.
also worth mentioning the upcoming 3.5 feature which will allow you to
import a data domain (master or not) to the engine, which is most useful
for this case, and reduces the need for the 'convert to export, then
import' games.
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