Hello Matt Yes, there is a way, it can be done as part of our MultiHost Network feature(since 3.4). If you have the same logical network attached to multiple hosts in your DC, you can update their vlan IDs via the 'Networks' main tab and this will send a setup networks command through all of your hosts in the DC and update the logical network with the new vlan ID. - Note that this can be done when the VMs are running on the host/s as well. Good luck) On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 11:51 PM, Matt . <yamakasi.014(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Is there a way to change Vlan ID's which are connected to the Hosts > when the VM's on it are down ? > > As i need to change a lot of them it would be create if the engine can > perform some process which allows me to hammer my hosts with the new > vlan ID's for their bridges. > > I hope someone has an idea. > > Thanks! > > Matt > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > -- Michael Burman RedHat Israel, RHV-M Network QE Mobile: 054-5355725 IRC: mburman

HI Micheal, Thanks! it looks like it's what I need, checking out! Thank you very much! Matt 2017-02-15 7:12 GMT+01:00 Michael Burman <mburman(a)redhat.com&gt;: > Check this feature page as well) > > http://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/network/multihos... > > > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Michael Burman <mburman(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> >> Hello Matt >> >> Yes, there is a way, it can be done as part of our MultiHost Network >> feature(since 3.4). >> If you have the same logical network attached to multiple hosts in your >> DC, you can update their vlan IDs via the 'Networks' main tab and this will >> send a setup networks command through all of your hosts in the DC and update >> the logical network with the new vlan ID. >> - Note that this can be done when the VMs are running on the host/s as >> well. >> >> Good luck) >> >> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 11:51 PM, Matt . <yamakasi.014(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>> Hi Guys, >>> >>> Is there a way to change Vlan ID's which are connected to the Hosts >>> when the VM's on it are down ? >>> >>> As i need to change a lot of them it would be create if the engine can >>> perform some process which allows me to hammer my hosts with the new >>> vlan ID's for their bridges. >>> >>> I hope someone has an idea. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Matt >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Users mailing list >>> Users(a)ovirt.org >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Michael Burman >> RedHat Israel, RHV-M Network QE >> >> Mobile: 054-5355725 >> IRC: mburman > > > > > -- > Michael Burman > RedHat Israel, RHV-M Network QE > > Mobile: 054-5355725 > IRC: mburman

Hi Matt Are you trying to change the network's name? if this is the case, then it doesn't allowed while network is attached to host/s. Yes, it is a bug in the error message when trying to rename network while it is attached to multiple hosts. I will report a bug for this issue. Thanks! On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Matt . <yamakasi.014(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > Hi Micheal, > > I trying pro process the change the issue is that I still get the > message (with some variable bug in it) that some hosts have the > logical network in usage. Is this Only on the name of the network ? > > I'm on Ovirt 4.0.6 > > Error while executing action: Cannot edit Network. This logical > network is used by hosts: > (${ACTION_TYPE_FAILED_NETWORK_IN_ONE_USE_LIST_COUNTER}): > ${ACTION_TYPE_FAILED_NETWORK_IN_ONE_USE_LIST} > - Please detach hosts using this logical network and try again. > > Thanks, > > Matt > > 2017-02-15 9:46 GMT+01:00 Matt . <yamakasi.014(a)gmail.com&gt;: > > HI Micheal, > > > > Thanks! it looks like it's what I need, checking out! > > > > Thank you very much! > > > > Matt > > > > 2017-02-15 7:12 GMT+01:00 Michael Burman <mburman(a)redhat.com&gt;: > >> Check this feature page as well) > >> > >> > >> http://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/network/multihos... > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Michael Burman <mburman(a)redhat.com&gt; > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hello Matt > >>> > >>> Yes, there is a way, it can be done as part of our MultiHost Network > >>> feature(since 3.4). > >>> If you have the same logical network attached to multiple hosts in > >>> your > >>> DC, you can update their vlan IDs via the 'Networks' main tab and this > >>> will > >>> send a setup networks command through all of your hosts in the DC and > >>> update > >>> the logical network with the new vlan ID. > >>> - Note that this can be done when the VMs are running on the host/s as > >>> well. > >>> > >>> Good luck) > >>> > >>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 11:51 PM, Matt . <yamakasi.014(a)gmail.com&gt; > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi Guys, > >>>> > >>>> Is there a way to change Vlan ID's which are connected to the Hosts > >>>> when the VM's on it are down ? > >>>> > >>>> As i need to change a lot of them it would be create if the engine > >>>> can > >>>> perform some process which allows me to hammer my hosts with the new > >>>> vlan ID's for their bridges. > >>>> > >>>> I hope someone has an idea. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks! > >>>> > >>>> Matt > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Users mailing list > >>>> Users(a)ovirt.org > >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Michael Burman > >>> RedHat Israel, RHV-M Network QE > >>> > >>> Mobile: 054-5355725 > >>> IRC: mburman > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Michael Burman > >> RedHat Israel, RHV-M Network QE > >> > >> Mobile: 054-5355725 > >> IRC: mburman -- Michael Burman RedHat Israel, RHV-M Network QE Mobile: 054-5355725 IRC: mburman

OK, I just found out that it's not possible to change the network name when the network is attached to VM's as well. I wonder why that is because for VM's it's only DB stuff being done. Can't this be changed ? Thanks, Matt 2017-02-16 13:58 GMT+01:00 Matt . <yamakasi.014(a)gmail.com&gt;: > Hi, > > OK good to know. Why would it not be possible to change the name as > well ? I think it's not that difficult in the same command ? > > Cheers, > > Matt > > 2017-02-16 13:54 GMT+01:00 Michael Burman <mburman(a)redhat.com&gt;: >> Hi Matt >> >> Are you trying to change the network's name? if this is the case, then it >> doesn't allowed while network is attached to host/s. >> >> Yes, it is a bug in the error message when trying to rename network while it >> is attached to multiple hosts. I will report a bug for this issue. >> >> Thanks! >> >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Matt . <yamakasi.014(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>> Hi Micheal, >>> >>> I trying pro process the change the issue is that I still get the >>> message (with some variable bug in it) that some hosts have the >>> logical network in usage. Is this Only on the name of the network ? >>> >>> I'm on Ovirt 4.0.6 >>> >>> Error while executing action: Cannot edit Network. This logical >>> network is used by hosts: >>> (${ACTION_TYPE_FAILED_NETWORK_IN_ONE_USE_LIST_COUNTER}): >>> ${ACTION_TYPE_FAILED_NETWORK_IN_ONE_USE_LIST} >>> - Please detach hosts using this logical network and try again. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Matt >>> >>> 2017-02-15 9:46 GMT+01:00 Matt . <yamakasi.014(a)gmail.com&gt;: >>> > HI Micheal, >>> > >>> > Thanks! it looks like it's what I need, checking out! >>> > >>> > Thank you very much! >>> > >>> > Matt >>> > >>> > 2017-02-15 7:12 GMT+01:00 Michael Burman <mburman(a)redhat.com&gt;: >>> >> Check this feature page as well) >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> http://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/network/ multihostnetworkconfiguration/ >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Michael Burman <mburman(a)redhat.com > >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello Matt >>> >>> >>> >>> Yes, there is a way, it can be done as part of our MultiHost Network >>> >>> feature(since 3.4). >>> >>> If you have the same logical network attached to multiple hosts in >>> >>> your >>> >>> DC, you can update their vlan IDs via the 'Networks' main tab and this >>> >>> will >>> >>> send a setup networks command through all of your hosts in the DC and >>> >>> update >>> >>> the logical network with the new vlan ID. >>> >>> - Note that this can be done when the VMs are running on the host/s as >>> >>> well. >>> >>> >>> >>> Good luck) >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 11:51 PM, Matt . <yamakasi.014(a)gmail.com&gt; >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Hi Guys, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Is there a way to change Vlan ID's which are connected to the Hosts >>> >>>> when the VM's on it are down ? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> As i need to change a lot of them it would be create if the engine >>> >>>> can >>> >>>> perform some process which allows me to hammer my hosts with the new >>> >>>> vlan ID's for their bridges. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I hope someone has an idea. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Thanks! >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Matt >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>> Users mailing list >>> >>>> Users(a)ovirt.org >>> >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Michael Burman >>> >>> RedHat Israel, RHV-M Network QE >>> >>> >>> >>> Mobile: 054-5355725 >>> >>> IRC: mburman >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Michael Burman >>> >> RedHat Israel, RHV-M Network QE >>> >> >>> >> Mobile: 054-5355725 >>> >> IRC: mburman >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Michael Burman >> RedHat Israel, RHV-M Network QE >> >> Mobile: 054-5355725 >> IRC: mburman

Hi Micheal, OK, thanks for this, but what if I change them in the Database and resync ? As ovirtmgmt is seperate it should be able to control the hosts. I'm curious about that as I think that should work. Thanks, Matt 2017-02-19 10:30 GMT+01:00 Michael Burman <mburman(a)redhat.com&gt;: > Hi again > > This can't be changed. > When the network attached to host, it is used by vdsm and has a > vdsm-'network-name' which in use. > When it used by a VM, virsh using this name, so you can't change it, unless > removing and detaching the network from VM and host. > > Best regards, > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Matt . <yamakasi.014(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >> >> OK, I just found out that it's not possible to change the network name >> when the network is attached to VM's as well. I wonder why that is >> because for VM's it's only DB stuff being done. >> >> Can't this be changed ? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Matt >> >> 2017-02-16 13:58 GMT+01:00 Matt . <yamakasi.014(a)gmail.com&gt;: >> > Hi, >> > >> > OK good to know. Why would it not be possible to change the name as >> > well ? I think it's not that difficult in the same command ? >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Matt >> > >> > 2017-02-16 13:54 GMT+01:00 Michael Burman <mburman(a)redhat.com&gt;: >> >> Hi Matt >> >> >> >> Are you trying to change the network's name? if this is the case, then >> >> it >> >> doesn't allowed while network is attached to host/s. >> >> >> >> Yes, it is a bug in the error message when trying to rename network >> >> while it >> >> is attached to multiple hosts. I will report a bug for this issue. >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Matt . <yamakasi.014(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hi Micheal, >> >>> >> >>> I trying pro process the change the issue is that I still get the >> >>> message (with some variable bug in it) that some hosts have the >> >>> logical network in usage. Is this Only on the name of the network ? >> >>> >> >>> I'm on Ovirt 4.0.6 >> >>> >> >>> Error while executing action: Cannot edit Network. This logical >> >>> network is used by hosts: >> >>> (${ACTION_TYPE_FAILED_NETWORK_IN_ONE_USE_LIST_COUNTER}): >> >>> ${ACTION_TYPE_FAILED_NETWORK_IN_ONE_USE_LIST} >> >>> - Please detach hosts using this logical network and try again. >> >>> >> >>> Thanks, >> >>> >> >>> Matt >> >>> >> >>> 2017-02-15 9:46 GMT+01:00 Matt . <yamakasi.014(a)gmail.com&gt;: >> >>> > HI Micheal, >> >>> > >> >>> > Thanks! it looks like it's what I need, checking out! >> >>> > >> >>> > Thank you very much! >> >>> > >> >>> > Matt >> >>> > >> >>> > 2017-02-15 7:12 GMT+01:00 Michael Burman <mburman(a)redhat.com&gt;: >> >>> >> Check this feature page as well) >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> http://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/ network/multihostnetworkconfiguration/ >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Michael Burman >> >>> >> <mburman(a)redhat.com&gt; >> >>> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> Hello Matt >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> Yes, there is a way, it can be done as part of our MultiHost >> >>> >>> Network >> >>> >>> feature(since 3.4). >> >>> >>> If you have the same logical network attached to multiple hosts in >> >>> >>> your >> >>> >>> DC, you can update their vlan IDs via the 'Networks' main tab and >> >>> >>> this >> >>> >>> will >> >>> >>> send a setup networks command through all of your hosts in the DC >> >>> >>> and >> >>> >>> update >> >>> >>> the logical network with the new vlan ID. >> >>> >>> - Note that this can be done when the VMs are running on the >> >>> >>> host/s as >> >>> >>> well. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> Good luck) >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 11:51 PM, Matt . < yamakasi.014(a)gmail.com&gt; >> >>> >>> wrote: >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> Hi Guys, >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> Is there a way to change Vlan ID's which are connected to the >> >>> >>>> Hosts >> >>> >>>> when the VM's on it are down ? >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> As i need to change a lot of them it would be create if the >> >>> >>>> engine >> >>> >>>> can >> >>> >>>> perform some process which allows me to hammer my hosts with the >> >>> >>>> new >> >>> >>>> vlan ID's for their bridges. >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> I hope someone has an idea. >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> Thanks! >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> Matt >> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> >>>> Users mailing list >> >>> >>>> Users(a)ovirt.org >> >>> >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> -- >> >>> >>> Michael Burman >> >>> >>> RedHat Israel, RHV-M Network QE >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> Mobile: 054-5355725 >> >>> >>> IRC: mburman >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> -- >> >>> >> Michael Burman >> >>> >> RedHat Israel, RHV-M Network QE >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Mobile: 054-5355725 >> >>> >> IRC: mburman >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Michael Burman >> >> RedHat Israel, RHV-M Network QE >> >> >> >> Mobile: 054-5355725 >> >> IRC: mburman > > > > > -- > Michael Burman > RedHat Israel, RHV-M Network QE > > Mobile: 054-5355725 > IRC: mburman _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Hi, Yes I saw it's not ideal to do this using the DB. It would be nice if it's possible to change it if the using VM's are down. Cheers, Matt 2017-02-19 14:10 GMT+01:00 Alona Kaplan <alkaplan(a)redhat.com&gt;: > Hi Matt, > > It won't work. > The name is the key for the sync operation. So it cannot be out of sync. > > If you change the name via the db (which is highly not recommended!), the > network will be considered as a new one. > You will end up (after refreshing the capabilities) with unmanaged network > in the hosts (the network with the old name) and new network in the > dc/cluster that is not attached to any host. > > > Alona. > > On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Matt . <yamakasi.014(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >> >> Hi Micheal, >> >> OK, thanks for this, but what if I change them in the Database and >> resync ? As ovirtmgmt is seperate it should be able to control the >> hosts. >> >> I'm curious about that as I think that should work. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Matt >> >> 2017-02-19 10:30 GMT+01:00 Michael Burman <mburman(a)redhat.com&gt;: >> > Hi again >> > >> > This can't be changed. >> > When the network attached to host, it is used by vdsm and has a >> > vdsm-'network-name' which in use. >> > When it used by a VM, virsh using this name, so you can't change it, >> > unless >> > removing and detaching the network from VM and host. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > >> > On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Matt . <yamakasi.014(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >> >> >> >> OK, I just found out that it's not possible to change the network name >> >> when the network is attached to VM's as well. I wonder why that is >> >> because for VM's it's only DB stuff being done. >> >> >> >> Can't this be changed ? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Matt >> >> >> >> 2017-02-16 13:58 GMT+01:00 Matt . <yamakasi.014(a)gmail.com&gt;: >> >> > Hi, >> >> > >> >> > OK good to know. Why would it not be possible to change the name as >> >> > well ? I think it's not that difficult in the same command ? >> >> > >> >> > Cheers, >> >> > >> >> > Matt >> >> > >> >> > 2017-02-16 13:54 GMT+01:00 Michael Burman <mburman(a)redhat.com&gt;: >> >> >> Hi Matt >> >> >> >> >> >> Are you trying to change the network's name? if this is the case, >> >> >> then >> >> >> it >> >> >> doesn't allowed while network is attached to host/s. >> >> >> >> >> >> Yes, it is a bug in the error message when trying to rename network >> >> >> while it >> >> >> is attached to multiple hosts. I will report a bug for this issue. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Matt . <yamakasi.014(a)gmail.com&gt; >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Hi Micheal, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> I trying pro process the change the issue is that I still get the >> >> >>> message (with some variable bug in it) that some hosts have the >> >> >>> logical network in usage. Is this Only on the name of the network ? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> I'm on Ovirt 4.0.6 >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Error while executing action: Cannot edit Network. This logical >> >> >>> network is used by hosts: >> >> >>> (${ACTION_TYPE_FAILED_NETWORK_IN_ONE_USE_LIST_COUNTER}): >> >> >>> ${ACTION_TYPE_FAILED_NETWORK_IN_ONE_USE_LIST} >> >> >>> - Please detach hosts using this logical network and try again. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Thanks, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Matt >> >> >>> >> >> >>> 2017-02-15 9:46 GMT+01:00 Matt . <yamakasi.014(a)gmail.com&gt;: >> >> >>> > HI Micheal, >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > Thanks! it looks like it's what I need, checking out! >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > Thank you very much! >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > Matt >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > 2017-02-15 7:12 GMT+01:00 Michael Burman <mburman(a)redhat.com&gt;: >> >> >>> >> Check this feature page as well) >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> http://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/network/multihos... >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Michael Burman >> >> >>> >> <mburman(a)redhat.com&gt; >> >> >>> >> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> Hello Matt >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> Yes, there is a way, it can be done as part of our MultiHost >> >> >>> >>> Network >> >> >>> >>> feature(since 3.4). >> >> >>> >>> If you have the same logical network attached to multiple hosts >> >> >>> >>> in >> >> >>> >>> your >> >> >>> >>> DC, you can update their vlan IDs via the 'Networks' main tab >> >> >>> >>> and >> >> >>> >>> this >> >> >>> >>> will >> >> >>> >>> send a setup networks command through all of your hosts in the >> >> >>> >>> DC >> >> >>> >>> and >> >> >>> >>> update >> >> >>> >>> the logical network with the new vlan ID. >> >> >>> >>> - Note that this can be done when the VMs are running on the >> >> >>> >>> host/s as >> >> >>> >>> well. >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> Good luck) >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 11:51 PM, Matt . >> >> >>> >>> <yamakasi.014(a)gmail.com&gt; >> >> >>> >>> wrote: >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> Hi Guys, >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> Is there a way to change Vlan ID's which are connected to the >> >> >>> >>>> Hosts >> >> >>> >>>> when the VM's on it are down ? >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> As i need to change a lot of them it would be create if the >> >> >>> >>>> engine >> >> >>> >>>> can >> >> >>> >>>> perform some process which allows me to hammer my hosts with >> >> >>> >>>> the >> >> >>> >>>> new >> >> >>> >>>> vlan ID's for their bridges. >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> I hope someone has an idea. >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> Thanks! >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> Matt >> >> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>> >>>> Users mailing list >> >> >>> >>>> Users(a)ovirt.org >> >> >>> >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> -- >> >> >>> >>> Michael Burman >> >> >>> >>> RedHat Israel, RHV-M Network QE >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> Mobile: 054-5355725 >> >> >>> >>> IRC: mburman >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> -- >> >> >>> >> Michael Burman >> >> >>> >> RedHat Israel, RHV-M Network QE >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> Mobile: 054-5355725 >> >> >>> >> IRC: mburman >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Michael Burman >> >> >> RedHat Israel, RHV-M Network QE >> >> >> >> >> >> Mobile: 054-5355725 >> >> >> IRC: mburman >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Michael Burman >> > RedHat Israel, RHV-M Network QE >> > >> > Mobile: 054-5355725 >> > IRC: mburman >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> Users(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >