oVirt HC setup question
</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><= span lang=3DEN-US>I’m planning to install oVirt 4 with the HC setup f= rom this blogpost and did a demo setup.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMso= Normal><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>= <span lang=3DEN-US><a href=3D"http://www.ovirt.org/blog/2016/08/up-and-runn= ing-with-ovirt-4-0-and-gluster-storage/">http://www.ovirt.org/blog/2016/08/= up-and-running-with-ovirt-4-0-and-gluster-storage/</a> <o:p></o:p></span></=
--_000_BFAB40933B3367488CE6299BAF8592D1012BC9A59325SOCRATESasl_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, I'm planning to install oVirt 4 with the HC setup from this blogpost and di= d a demo setup. http://www.ovirt.org/blog/2016/08/up-and-running-with-ovirt-4-0-and-gluster= -storage/ I've managed to install everything just fine and thought that enabling a st= orage network would move all the bricks to that designated network, but it = didn't do anything. I made that happen by destroying and recreating the vol= umes with entering the ip addresses of the storage network through the cli.= Would that be the right way to do this ? If that's the case how could I mo= ve the engine bricks over to that network to get it off my ovirtmgmt bridge= ? Or is there may be more prefered way to complete the HC-Setup ? Thank you, Sven --_000_BFAB40933B3367488CE6299BAF8592D1012BC9A59325SOCRATESasl_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-micr= osoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns=3D"http:= //www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=3DContent-Type content= =3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"><meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Micros= oft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style><!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; mso-fareast-language:EN-US;} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:#0563C1; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {mso-style-priority:99; color:#954F72; text-decoration:underline;} span.E-MailFormatvorlage17 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:windowtext;} span.E-MailFormatvorlage18 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#1F497D;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-size:10.0pt;} @page WordSection1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:70.85pt 70.85pt 2.0cm 70.85pt;} div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} --></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=3DDE link=3D"#0563C1" v= link=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hi All,<o:p= p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p cl= ass=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>I’ve managed to install everything= just fine and thought that enabling a storage network would move all the b= ricks to that designated network, but it didn’t do anything. I made t= hat happen by destroying and recreating the volumes with entering the ip ad= dresses of the storage network through the cli. Would that be the right way= to do this ? If that’s the case how could I move the engine bricks o= ver to that network to get it off my ovirtmgmt bridge ? Or is there m= ay be more prefered way to complete the HC-Setup ?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class= =3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>Thank you, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class= =3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoN= ormal><span lang=3DEN-US>Sven<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>= --_000_BFAB40933B3367488CE6299BAF8592D1012BC9A59325SOCRATESasl_--
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 6:46 PM, Sven Achtelik <Sven.Achtelik@eps.aero> wrote:
Hi All,
I’m planning to install oVirt 4 with the HC setup from this blogpost and did a demo setup.
http://www.ovirt.org/blog/2016/08/up-and-running-with-ovirt-4-0-and-gluster-...
I’ve managed to install everything just fine and thought that enabling a storage network would move all the bricks to that designated network, but it didn’t do anything.
What do you mean by this? AFAIK just "adding a network" should not do anything in itself. If you refer to the section "Storage Network" from that post, then it describes how to add the existing, pre-configured storage network, to the engine management, not how to "create" it.
I made that happen by destroying and recreating the volumes with entering the ip addresses of the storage network through the cli. Would that be the right way to do this ?
I'd say the right way is probably to plan beforehand and create your storage network ahead. Choose nics for that, connect them to a separate vlan, give them IP addresses, give these addresses names (different from the names given to addresses of other nics), and use these names when configuring the gluster storage.
If that’s the case how could I move the engine bricks over to that network to get it off my ovirtmgmt bridge ? Or is there may be more prefered way to complete the HC-Setup ?
If you provided IP addresses of the wrong nics and now want to change that, then I have no idea - no personal experience with gluster. Adding Sahina for this. I suggest, in such cases, to always use names, never IP addresses. It's a bit more maintenance work (of the dns and/or /etc/hosts), but provides much more flexibility - if you used names, you can (in principle, didn't try that myself) take everything down, change the names to point at the IP addresses of the correct nics, then start all up. Best, -- Didi
On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Yedidyah Bar David <didi@redhat.com> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 6:46 PM, Sven Achtelik <Sven.Achtelik@eps.aero> wrote:
Hi All,
I’m planning to install oVirt 4 with the HC setup from this blogpost and did a demo setup.
http://www.ovirt.org/blog/2016/08/up-and-running-with-ovirt- 4-0-and-gluster-storage/
I’ve managed to install everything just fine and thought that enabling a storage network would move all the bricks to that designated network, but it didn’t do anything.
What do you mean by this? AFAIK just "adding a network" should not do anything in itself. If you refer to the section "Storage Network" from that post, then it describes how to add the existing, pre-configured storage network, to the engine management, not how to "create" it.
I made that happen by destroying and recreating the volumes with entering the ip addresses of the storage network through the cli. Would that be the right way to do this ?
I'd say the right way is probably to plan beforehand and create your storage network ahead. Choose nics for that, connect them to a separate vlan, give them IP addresses, give these addresses names (different from the names given to addresses of other nics), and use these names when configuring the gluster storage.
If that’s the case how could I move the engine bricks over to that network to get it off my ovirtmgmt bridge ? Or is there may be more prefered way to complete the HC-Setup ?
If you provided IP addresses of the wrong nics and now want to change that, then I have no idea - no personal experience with gluster. Adding Sahina for this.
Once you have created the bricks with one network, changing it to another is a bit hard. With latest version of gluster (3.9) there's a command reset-brick that allows you to do that [1] - you will need to do this one brick at a time as the brick being reset will need to be killed first. The safest way is to plan ahead and create your gluster volume using the network you wish to use. [1] - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1266876
I suggest, in such cases, to always use names, never IP addresses. It's a bit more maintenance work (of the dns and/or /etc/hosts), but provides much more flexibility - if you used names, you can (in principle, didn't try that myself) take everything down, change the names to point at the IP addresses of the correct nics, then start all up.
Best, -- Didi
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Sahina Bose -
Sven Achtelik -
Yedidyah Bar David