I apologize if this comes off a little brusque, but there's really a lot of random information out there right now, to the point where i've seen it confuse not only myself but other new installers. Based on the problems I still have, I have a suggestion, and I also need some help. Again, some of this may come off as a bit of a TLDR Rant but if ovirt is to become popular, I believe my experience as a hardware engineer, software/hardware QA director/manager/engineer, may be valuable to this project. Two things keep me from getting this system working for me in a useful manner: #1, and the most important blocker: Disabling or fixing selinux, using ovirt-node-iso-3.0.3-1.1.vdsm.fc19.iso. #2, getting raritan pdu support For issue #1: I've had a lot of people say "disable selinux" or "fix selinux" all over this user list and in recent replies. This really isn't fully helpful information. Even stating "edit the /etc/selinux/config" or use the kernel boot command "selinux=0" or read some other doc on the internet. These all apply to full fledged releases, not to the ovirt iso image. The main issue is that SSHD is not being allowed through selinux by default on this image. The right thing to do would be to fix the image and re-release it, and DELETE the broken one that is currently available. However a simple doc explaining how to persist the selinux disable or fix the SSHD problem with selinux would be the easiest solution. Others ran me down the path of "edit the selinux file and persist it" which didn't work, but gave no productive help on how to make it permanent. Equally I've been told to edit the grub config and add selinux=0 to the kernel, however after attempting this, adding it manually at the grub boot causes the system not to boot, and I haven't found the *right* grub.cfg file to edit and persist to keep the changes. For issue #2: I've hacked up some of the fence-agents scripts and am in the process of attempting to figure out how to compile/set up my own local copy to verify the raritan changes. Ideally the fence-agents folks would add a "generic support" portion, which I may actually do myself as well, allowing *any* PDU with at least the usual login/password/command/logout sequence to be used. So you see, I'm not totally useless, I'm helping here. Next suggestions: A) Compatibility list B) Cleanup of old project crap For A) For each release, I suggest there be a spreadsheet or simple document that shows which ovirt ISO images are compatible with which manager versions. There could be a wiki where people can add references to bug #s that have been found and links to their solutions. Right now there are ancient docs all over google searches that send people down paths of days of turmoil to no avail. For B) When iso images or other releases are superseded because of blocking, non-operable bugs, they should either be resolved and re-released or a clear path to making them function be documented. Once a re-release is done, the old images should be wiped out or moved to a clearly marked deprecated folder. Thats my 100 cents worth, I really do appreciate the work and effort that goes into this project, it appears to be a wonderful one, I hope to make good use of it, but the initial learning curve is a real deal breaker I'm sure for many others, especially not those willing and able to spend the time hacking at it like I have for the past week. Thanks!

I managed to dig,dig dig and have finally resolved issue #1 without reinstall steps 1. put host in maintenance mode 2, log in to host and: 2a. mount -o,rw,remount /run/initramfs/live 2b. edit /run/initramfs/live/grub2/grub.cfg and add selinux=0 to the end of the kernel line (starts with "linux /vmlinuz0" 2c. reboot the host 3. log in and try "getenforce" - selinux says disabled. 4. I tried to "Activate" the host and the manager returned "non-operational", so I had to remove and re-add the host. Manager version: 3.3.3-2.fc19 and iso ovirt-node-iso-3.0.3-1.1.vdsm.fc19.iso On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 12:14 PM, David Smith <dsmith(a)mypchelp.com&gt; wrote: > side note ,reinstalling the nodes to resolve the selinux issue really > isn't a great proposition, its time consuming, an after-the-fact method of > editing the grub line and adding selinux=0 or enforcing=0 whichever it may > be would be ideal. > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 11:05 AM, David Smith <dsmith(a)mypchelp.com&gt;wrote: > >> I apologize if this comes off a little brusque, but there's really a lot >> of random information out there right now, to the point where i've seen it >> confuse not only myself but other new installers. Based on the problems I >> still have, I have a suggestion, and I also need some help. Again, some of >> this may come off as a bit of a TLDR Rant but if ovirt is to become >> popular, I believe my experience as a hardware engineer, software/hardware >> QA director/manager/engineer, may be valuable to this project. >> >> Two things keep me from getting this system working for me in a useful >> manner: >> #1, and the most important blocker: Disabling or fixing selinux, using >> ovirt-node-iso-3.0.3-1.1.vdsm.fc19.iso. >> >> #2, getting raritan pdu support >> >> For issue #1: I've had a lot of people say "disable selinux" or "fix >> selinux" all over this user list and in recent replies. This really isn't >> fully helpful information. Even stating "edit the /etc/selinux/config" or >> use the kernel boot command "selinux=0" or read some other doc on the >> internet. These all apply to full fledged releases, not to the ovirt iso >> image. The main issue is that SSHD is not being allowed through selinux by >> default on this image. The right thing to do would be to fix the image and >> re-release it, and DELETE the broken one that is currently available. >> However a simple doc explaining how to persist the selinux disable or >> fix the SSHD problem with selinux would be the easiest solution. >> Others ran me down the path of "edit the selinux file and persist it" >> which didn't work, but gave no productive help on how to make it permanent. >> Equally I've been told to edit the grub config and add selinux=0 to the >> kernel, however after attempting this, adding it manually at the grub boot >> causes the system not to boot, and I haven't found the *right* grub.cfg >> file to edit and persist to keep the changes. >> >> For issue #2: I've hacked up some of the fence-agents scripts and am in >> the process of attempting to figure out how to compile/set up my own local >> copy to verify the raritan changes. Ideally the fence-agents folks would >> add a "generic support" portion, which I may actually do myself as well, >> allowing *any* PDU with at least the usual login/password/command/logout >> sequence to be used. So you see, I'm not totally useless, I'm helping here. >> >> Next suggestions: >> A) Compatibility list >> B) Cleanup of old project crap >> >> For A) >> For each release, I suggest there be a spreadsheet or simple document >> that shows which ovirt ISO images are compatible with which manager >> versions. >> There could be a wiki where people can add references to bug #s that >> have been found and links to their solutions. Right now there are ancient >> docs all over google searches that send people down paths of days of >> turmoil to no avail. >> >> For B) >> When iso images or other releases are superseded because of blocking, >> non-operable bugs, they should either be resolved and re-released or a >> clear path to making them function be documented. Once a re-release is >> done, the old images should be wiped out or moved to a clearly marked >> deprecated folder. >> >> Thats my 100 cents worth, I really do appreciate the work and effort >> that goes into this project, it appears to be a wonderful one, I hope to >> make good use of it, but the initial learning curve is a real deal breaker >> I'm sure for many others, especially not those willing and able to spend >> the time hacking at it like I have for the past week. >> >> Thanks! >> > >