Re: [Users] Virtualized hypervisor?

Hello Itamar, Thank you for responding. The only machine i have is my Windows 7 pc (Intel i7, 16Gb ram). I'm running the manager in Virtualbox and want to run the hypervisor in Virtualbox or VMware Workstation, just for study purposes. I'm using RHEL6 for the manager and wanted to use it for the Hypervisor as well. So, unfortunatly i don't have an extra physical machine available.
Hi Peter,
please note you replied me in private, so folks on the mailing list still replying to you don't have this info, and answering on a different use case. i suggest replying to my question on the mailing list for clarification.
Thanks, Itamar
Best regards, Peter
----Origineel Bericht---- Van : iheim@redhat.com Datum : 30/10/2013 16:01 Aan : rules@planet.nl Cc : users@ovirt.org Onderwerp : Re: [Users] Virtualized hypervisor?
On 10/30/2013 12:12 AM, rules@planet.nl wrote:
Hi All,
my name is Peter van der Meulen from the Netherlands. I'm (self paced) studying the RHEV guides and course material to take the RHEV certifiation exam. Installing the RHEV manager is not a problem, the hypervisor is, however, another story. I don't have a seperate physical machine for the hypervisor. I was told that it is possible to install the RHEV hypervisor in a virtual machine using Ovirt kernel modules. Could someone point me towards documentation on this issue and what kernel modules to install? Thanks in advance!
Best regards, Peter
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which OS are you using?
if you have a single physical box, you can try installing the allinone setup plugin rpm which will deploy host+engine on same box. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Hallo Peter,
Hello Itamar,
Thank you for responding. The only machine i have is my Windows 7 pc (Intel i7, 16Gb ram). I'm running the manager in Virtualbox and want to run the hypervisor in Virtualbox or VMware Workstation, just for study purposes. I'm using RHEL6 for the manager and wanted to use it for the Hypervisor as well. So, unfortunatly i don't have an extra physical machine available.
I have same machine specs @home and have installed Fedora 19 on a separate partition to play with oVirt. Depending on where you place your VMs you don't need much room for that. Isos you can leave on your Windows drive(s) and if you have a NAS you can put the VM storage (NFS) on it. If not then you can use thin provisioning to keep the size down but anything from 50-100G will get you a decent working oVirt installation on either Fedora 19 or Centos-6.4 Running a complete ovirt env in virtualbox is not possible since you can't have nested virt on Virtualbox. The engine will run but you will have nothing to play around with! A nested virt env using a core i7 work quite well so it might be worth the trouble and time spent on installing fedora/centos on a new partition and start using dual boot. With an all-in-one setup you can do nested virt. Beware Centos needs a newer kernel than the 2.6.32.abc. Look at the elrepo repository for newer, upto 3.11.x. Regards, Joop

Hi, I execute ovirt-setup like this: "engine-setup --generate-answer=engine-setup-answerfile.txt" It installs ok, but no answer file gets generated. In the logs I can see a file should be generated but it's nowhere to be found: ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131025111641.log:2013-10-25 11:16:41 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131031122017.log:2013-10-31 12:20:17 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131031122017.log:2013-10-31 12:20:18 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131031122017.log:2013-10-31 12:25:33 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131031122017.log:2013-10-31 12:27:24 INFO otopi.plugins.ovirt_engine_common.core.answerfile answerfile._closeup:75 Generating answer file 'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131031122017.log:2013-10-31 12:27:28 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131024152829.log:2013-10-24 15:28:29 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131024152829.log:2013-10-24 15:28:34 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131024152829.log:2013-10-24 15:33:56 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131031121135.log:2013-10-31 12:11:35 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131031121135.log:2013-10-31 12:11:36 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131031121135.log:2013-10-31 12:12:05 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131030095338.log:2013-10-30 09:53:38 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131030095338.log:2013-10-30 09:53:39 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131030095338.log:2013-10-30 09:55:21 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131030095523.log:2013-10-30 09:55:23 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131030095523.log:2013-10-30 09:55:25 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131030095523.log:2013-10-30 09:56:32 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131030095523.log:2013-10-30 09:58:41 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' Kind regards, Jorick Astrego Netbulae B.V.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jorick Astrego" <j.astrego@netbulae.eu> To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 2:31:44 PM Subject: [Users] engine-setup 3.3 doesn't generate answer file
Hi,
I execute ovirt-setup like this:
"engine-setup --generate-answer=engine-setup-answerfile.txt"
Please try full path, I suspect a problem in this regard.
It installs ok, but no answer file gets generated.
In the logs I can see a file should be generated but it's nowhere to be found:
./ovirt-engine-setup-20131025111641.log:2013-10-25 11:16:41 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131031122017.log:2013-10-31 12:20:17 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131031122017.log:2013-10-31 12:20:18 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131031122017.log:2013-10-31 12:25:33 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131031122017.log:2013-10-31 12:27:24 INFO otopi.plugins.ovirt_engine_common.core.answerfile answerfile._closeup:75 Generating answer file 'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131031122017.log:2013-10-31 12:27:28 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131024152829.log:2013-10-24 15:28:29 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131024152829.log:2013-10-24 15:28:34 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131024152829.log:2013-10-24 15:33:56 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131031121135.log:2013-10-31 12:11:35 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131031121135.log:2013-10-31 12:11:36 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131031121135.log:2013-10-31 12:12:05 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131030095338.log:2013-10-30 09:53:38 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131030095338.log:2013-10-30 09:53:39 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131030095338.log:2013-10-30 09:55:21 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131030095523.log:2013-10-30 09:55:23 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131030095523.log:2013-10-30 09:55:25 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131030095523.log:2013-10-30 09:56:32 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131030095523.log:2013-10-30 09:58:41 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt'
Kind regards,
Jorick Astrego Netbulae B.V.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com> To: "Jorick Astrego" <j.astrego@netbulae.eu> Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 1:44:47 PM Subject: Re: [Users] engine-setup 3.3 doesn't generate answer file
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jorick Astrego" <j.astrego@netbulae.eu> To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 2:31:44 PM Subject: [Users] engine-setup 3.3 doesn't generate answer file
Hi,
I execute ovirt-setup like this:
"engine-setup --generate-answer=engine-setup-answerfile.txt"
Please try full path, I suspect a problem in this regard.
Fix[1], thanks for reporting! [1] http://gerrit.ovirt.org/20761
It installs ok, but no answer file gets generated.
In the logs I can see a file should be generated but it's nowhere to be found:
./ovirt-engine-setup-20131025111641.log:2013-10-25 11:16:41 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131031122017.log:2013-10-31 12:20:17 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131031122017.log:2013-10-31 12:20:18 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131031122017.log:2013-10-31 12:25:33 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131031122017.log:2013-10-31 12:27:24 INFO otopi.plugins.ovirt_engine_common.core.answerfile answerfile._closeup:75 Generating answer file 'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131031122017.log:2013-10-31 12:27:28 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131024152829.log:2013-10-24 15:28:29 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131024152829.log:2013-10-24 15:28:34 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131024152829.log:2013-10-24 15:33:56 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131031121135.log:2013-10-31 12:11:35 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131031121135.log:2013-10-31 12:11:36 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131031121135.log:2013-10-31 12:12:05 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131030095338.log:2013-10-30 09:53:38 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131030095338.log:2013-10-30 09:53:39 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131030095338.log:2013-10-30 09:55:21 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131030095523.log:2013-10-30 09:55:23 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131030095523.log:2013-10-30 09:55:25 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131030095523.log:2013-10-30 09:56:32 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt' ./ovirt-engine-setup-20131030095523.log:2013-10-30 09:58:41 DEBUG otopi.context context.dumpEnvironment:456 ENV OVESETUP_CORE/answerFile=str:'engine-setup-answerfile.txt'
Kind regards,
Jorick Astrego Netbulae B.V.
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On 10/31/2013 12:48 PM, Joop wrote:
Hallo Peter,
Hello Itamar,
Thank you for responding. The only machine i have is my Windows 7 pc (Intel i7, 16Gb ram). I'm running the manager in Virtualbox and want to run the hypervisor in Virtualbox or VMware Workstation, just for study purposes. I'm using RHEL6 for the manager and wanted to use it for the Hypervisor as well. So, unfortunatly i don't have an extra physical machine available.
I have same machine specs @home and have installed Fedora 19 on a separate partition to play with oVirt. Depending on where you place your VMs you don't need much room for that. Isos you can leave on your Windows drive(s) and if you have a NAS you can put the VM storage (NFS) on it. If not then you can use thin provisioning to keep the size down but anything from 50-100G will get you a decent working oVirt installation on either Fedora 19 or Centos-6.4 Running a complete ovirt env in virtualbox is not possible since you can't have nested virt on Virtualbox. The engine will run but you will have nothing to play around with! A nested virt env using a core i7 work quite well so it might be worth the trouble and time spent on installing fedora/centos on a new partition and start using dual boot. With an all-in-one setup you can do nested virt. Beware Centos needs a newer kernel than the 2.6.32.abc. Look at the elrepo repository for newer, upto 3.11.x.
well, one more idea - to play with it, you can use the ovirt-live usb edition. no need for any nested virt, etc. just boot from usb, its all from RAM, etc. quoting doron from another email... "Simply booting a laptop from usb is the best and fastest way. You have here the latest iso to be used when burning the usb: http://resources.ovirt.org/releases/3.3/tools/ You should run something similar the the below command as root: dd bs=4M if={path/to/}ovirt-live-el6.iso of=/dev/sdb => make sure to fix the path to the iso and bverrify your usb device is sdb, to avoid deleting your harddrive." more details here: http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_Live
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Alon Bar-Lev
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Itamar Heim
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Joop
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Jorick Astrego
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