[Users] oVirt 3.3.1 rlease

The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general availability of oVirt 3.3.1 as of November 21th 2013. This release solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application, and open source alternative to VMware vSphere. oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.4 (or similar). See release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bug fixed. [1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes - Kiril

Yay! Congratulations to all of the oVirt team. I am having trouble locating upgrade instructions, however. There's nothing in the release notes. I discovered through trial-and-error that running "engine-setup" again handles upgrade of the Engine. But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I try to run "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: glusterfs qemu vdsm and also to a multilib version error due to vdsm-python 4.12 and 4.13. What's the proper upgrade procedure for a Host? Thanks, Bob On 11/21/2013 10:43 AM, Kiril Nesenko wrote:
The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general availability of oVirt 3.3.1 as of November 21th 2013. This release solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application, and open source alternative to VMware vSphere.
oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.4 (or similar).
See release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bug fixed.
[1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes
- Kiril
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

On 11/21/2013 06:32 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
Yay!
Congratulations to all of the oVirt team.
I am having trouble locating upgrade instructions, however. There's nothing in the release notes.
I discovered through trial-and-error that running "engine-setup" again handles upgrade of the Engine.
But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I try to run "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: glusterfs qemu vdsm
can you please include the yum output log?
and also to a multilib version error due to vdsm-python 4.12 and 4.13.
What's the proper upgrade procedure for a Host?
Thanks, Bob
On 11/21/2013 10:43 AM, Kiril Nesenko wrote:
The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general availability of oVirt 3.3.1 as of November 21th 2013. This release solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application, and open source alternative to VMware vSphere.
oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.4 (or similar).
See release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bug fixed.
[1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes
- Kiril
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_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

On 11/21/2013 12:00 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/21/2013 06:32 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
Yay!
Congratulations to all of the oVirt team.
I am having trouble locating upgrade instructions, however. There's nothing in the release notes.
I discovered through trial-and-error that running "engine-setup" again handles upgrade of the Engine.
But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I try to run "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: glusterfs qemu vdsm
can you please include the yum output log?
Sorry yes. Attached are three outputs. First my repolist. Then yum update with no options, and yum update with --skip-broken (so you can see the lurking issues masked by the first failure). It appears that the glusterfs issue is due to a newer version offered by rhel-x86_64-server-6: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64. This has dependencies which conflict with the version provided by ovirt-stable (and glusterfs-epel). It looks like there was a large update to the Red Hat repo last night that has caused conflicts with ovirt-stable. Note I can get it to the point where it's willing to install packages if I specify --skip-broken and also --exclude vdsm-python-4.12.1, but that's a bit too scary for me without checking first. Thanks, Bob
and also to a multilib version error due to vdsm-python 4.12 and 4.13.
What's the proper upgrade procedure for a Host?
Thanks, Bob
On 11/21/2013 10:43 AM, Kiril Nesenko wrote:
The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general availability of oVirt 3.3.1 as of November 21th 2013. This release solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application, and open source alternative to VMware vSphere.
oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.4 (or similar).
See release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bug fixed.
[1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes
- Kiril
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

On 11/21/2013 07:38 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 12:00 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/21/2013 06:32 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
Yay!
Congratulations to all of the oVirt team.
I am having trouble locating upgrade instructions, however. There's nothing in the release notes.
I discovered through trial-and-error that running "engine-setup" again handles upgrade of the Engine.
But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I try to run "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: glusterfs qemu vdsm
can you please include the yum output log?
Sorry yes. Attached are three outputs. First my repolist. Then yum update with no options, and yum update with --skip-broken (so you can see the lurking issues masked by the first failure).
It appears that the glusterfs issue is due to a newer version offered by rhel-x86_64-server-6: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64. This has dependencies which conflict with the version provided by ovirt-stable (and glusterfs-epel).
It looks like there was a large update to the Red Hat repo last night that has caused conflicts with ovirt-stable.
Note I can get it to the point where it's willing to install packages if I specify --skip-broken and also --exclude vdsm-python-4.12.1, but that's a bit too scary for me without checking first.
oh, you may caught rhel repo in middle of a refresh - try again in a few hours first, but could be the refresh may cause an issue we'd need to resolve.
Thanks, Bob
and also to a multilib version error due to vdsm-python 4.12 and 4.13.
What's the proper upgrade procedure for a Host?
Thanks, Bob
On 11/21/2013 10:43 AM, Kiril Nesenko wrote:
The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general availability of oVirt 3.3.1 as of November 21th 2013. This release solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application, and open source alternative to VMware vSphere.
oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.4 (or similar).
See release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bug fixed.
[1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes
- Kiril
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On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
oh, you may caught rhel repo in middle of a refresh - try again in a few hours first, but could be the refresh may cause an issue we'd need to resolve.
BTW on rhel6 list today I saw several guys complaining about 6.5 repos already in place before official announce. So today and tomorrow updates for sure would get in 6.5 packages. One option is to register with rhsm and block release version with # subscription-manager register --username user_name --autosubscribe --release=6.4 (or from the web gui) So that you are sure not to get 6.5 packages until fixed/verified in oVirt. You can see available versions: # subscription-manager release --list 6.1 6.2 6.3 6.4 6Server <--- if this level is the one set (that is the default) the system would update to 6.5 when available # subscription-manager service-level --show Current service level: XXX (it doesn't work in 6.3, I don't know in 6.4) Gianluca

On 11/21/2013 12:57 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/21/2013 07:38 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 12:00 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/21/2013 06:32 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
Yay!
Congratulations to all of the oVirt team.
I am having trouble locating upgrade instructions, however. There's nothing in the release notes.
I discovered through trial-and-error that running "engine-setup" again handles upgrade of the Engine.
But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I try to run "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: glusterfs qemu vdsm
can you please include the yum output log?
Sorry yes. Attached are three outputs. First my repolist. Then yum update with no options, and yum update with --skip-broken (so you can see the lurking issues masked by the first failure).
It appears that the glusterfs issue is due to a newer version offered by rhel-x86_64-server-6: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64. This has dependencies which conflict with the version provided by ovirt-stable (and glusterfs-epel).
It looks like there was a large update to the Red Hat repo last night that has caused conflicts with ovirt-stable.
Note I can get it to the point where it's willing to install packages if I specify --skip-broken and also --exclude vdsm-python-4.12.1, but that's a bit too scary for me without checking first.
oh, you may caught rhel repo in middle of a refresh - try again in a few hours first, but could be the refresh may cause an issue we'd need to resolve.
Not sure why I'm the only person reporting this (am I the only person who runs RH 6 on their KVM hosts who has tried upgrading??), but the problem has not resolved. What's the next step? Does it need a bug opened? Let me know if I can provide any more information. Thanks, Bob
Thanks, Bob
and also to a multilib version error due to vdsm-python 4.12 and 4.13.
What's the proper upgrade procedure for a Host?
Thanks, Bob
On 11/21/2013 10:43 AM, Kiril Nesenko wrote:
The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general availability of oVirt 3.3.1 as of November 21th 2013. This release solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application, and open source alternative to VMware vSphere.
oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.4 (or similar).
See release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bug fixed.
[1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes
- Kiril
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_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

On 11/22/2013 02:33 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 12:57 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/21/2013 07:38 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 12:00 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/21/2013 06:32 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
Yay!
Congratulations to all of the oVirt team.
I am having trouble locating upgrade instructions, however. There's nothing in the release notes.
I discovered through trial-and-error that running "engine-setup" again handles upgrade of the Engine.
But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I try to run "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: glusterfs qemu vdsm
can you please include the yum output log?
Sorry yes. Attached are three outputs. First my repolist. Then yum update with no options, and yum update with --skip-broken (so you can see the lurking issues masked by the first failure).
It appears that the glusterfs issue is due to a newer version offered by rhel-x86_64-server-6: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64. This has dependencies which conflict with the version provided by ovirt-stable (and glusterfs-epel).
It looks like there was a large update to the Red Hat repo last night that has caused conflicts with ovirt-stable.
Note I can get it to the point where it's willing to install packages if I specify --skip-broken and also --exclude vdsm-python-4.12.1, but that's a bit too scary for me without checking first.
oh, you may caught rhel repo in middle of a refresh - try again in a few hours first, but could be the refresh may cause an issue we'd need to resolve.
Not sure why I'm the only person reporting this (am I the only person who runs RH 6 on their KVM hosts who has tried upgrading??), but the problem has not resolved.
What's the next step? Does it need a bug opened?
Let me know if I can provide any more information.
have you tried refreshing your repo / clear yum cache? (since glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6 should be in the repo)
Thanks, Bob
Thanks, Bob
and also to a multilib version error due to vdsm-python 4.12 and 4.13.
What's the proper upgrade procedure for a Host?
Thanks, Bob
On 11/21/2013 10:43 AM, Kiril Nesenko wrote:
The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general availability of oVirt 3.3.1 as of November 21th 2013. This release solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application, and open source alternative to VMware vSphere.
oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.4 (or similar).
See release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bug fixed.
[1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes
- Kiril
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

On 11/21/2013 07:48 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/22/2013 02:33 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 12:57 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/21/2013 07:38 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 12:00 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/21/2013 06:32 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
Yay!
Congratulations to all of the oVirt team.
I am having trouble locating upgrade instructions, however. There's nothing in the release notes.
I discovered through trial-and-error that running "engine-setup" again handles upgrade of the Engine.
But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I try to run "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: glusterfs qemu vdsm
can you please include the yum output log?
Sorry yes. Attached are three outputs. First my repolist. Then yum update with no options, and yum update with --skip-broken (so you can see the lurking issues masked by the first failure).
It appears that the glusterfs issue is due to a newer version offered by rhel-x86_64-server-6: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64. This has dependencies which conflict with the version provided by ovirt-stable (and glusterfs-epel).
It looks like there was a large update to the Red Hat repo last night that has caused conflicts with ovirt-stable.
Note I can get it to the point where it's willing to install packages if I specify --skip-broken and also --exclude vdsm-python-4.12.1, but that's a bit too scary for me without checking first.
oh, you may caught rhel repo in middle of a refresh - try again in a few hours first, but could be the refresh may cause an issue we'd need to resolve.
Not sure why I'm the only person reporting this (am I the only person who runs RH 6 on their KVM hosts who has tried upgrading??), but the problem has not resolved.
What's the next step? Does it need a bug opened?
Let me know if I can provide any more information.
have you tried refreshing your repo / clear yum cache? (since glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6 should be in the repo)
I just did "yum clean all; yum update". Same result. -Bob
Thanks, Bob
Thanks, Bob
and also to a multilib version error due to vdsm-python 4.12 and 4.13.
What's the proper upgrade procedure for a Host?
Thanks, Bob
On 11/21/2013 10:43 AM, Kiril Nesenko wrote: > The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general > availability of oVirt 3.3.1 as of November 21th 2013. This release > solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application, and open > source alternative to VMware vSphere. > > oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise > Linux 6.4 > (or similar). > > See release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bug fixed. > > [1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes > > - Kiril > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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On 11/22/2013 02:52 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 07:48 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/22/2013 02:33 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 12:57 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/21/2013 07:38 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 12:00 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/21/2013 06:32 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote: > Yay! > > Congratulations to all of the oVirt team. > > I am having trouble locating upgrade instructions, however. There's > nothing in the release notes. > > I discovered through trial-and-error that running "engine-setup" > again > handles upgrade of the Engine. > > But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I try to > run > "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: > glusterfs > qemu > vdsm >
can you please include the yum output log?
Sorry yes. Attached are three outputs. First my repolist. Then yum update with no options, and yum update with --skip-broken (so you can see the lurking issues masked by the first failure).
It appears that the glusterfs issue is due to a newer version offered by rhel-x86_64-server-6: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64. This has dependencies which conflict with the version provided by ovirt-stable (and glusterfs-epel).
It looks like there was a large update to the Red Hat repo last night that has caused conflicts with ovirt-stable.
Note I can get it to the point where it's willing to install packages if I specify --skip-broken and also --exclude vdsm-python-4.12.1, but that's a bit too scary for me without checking first.
oh, you may caught rhel repo in middle of a refresh - try again in a few hours first, but could be the refresh may cause an issue we'd need to resolve.
Not sure why I'm the only person reporting this (am I the only person who runs RH 6 on their KVM hosts who has tried upgrading??), but the problem has not resolved.
What's the next step? Does it need a bug opened?
Let me know if I can provide any more information.
have you tried refreshing your repo / clear yum cache? (since glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6 should be in the repo)
I just did "yum clean all; yum update". Same result.
do you have glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6 in the repo?
-Bob
Thanks, Bob
Thanks, Bob
> and also to a multilib version error due to vdsm-python 4.12 and > 4.13. > > What's the proper upgrade procedure for a Host? > > Thanks, > Bob > > On 11/21/2013 10:43 AM, Kiril Nesenko wrote: >> The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general >> availability of oVirt 3.3.1 as of November 21th 2013. This release >> solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application, and open >> source alternative to VMware vSphere. >> >> oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise >> Linux 6.4 >> (or similar). >> >> See release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bug fixed. >> >> [1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes >> >> - Kiril >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> Users@ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

On 11/21/2013 07:53 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/22/2013 02:52 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 07:48 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/22/2013 02:33 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 12:57 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/21/2013 07:38 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 12:00 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: > On 11/21/2013 06:32 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote: >> Yay! >> >> Congratulations to all of the oVirt team. >> >> I am having trouble locating upgrade instructions, however. >> There's >> nothing in the release notes. >> >> I discovered through trial-and-error that running "engine-setup" >> again >> handles upgrade of the Engine. >> >> But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I try to >> run >> "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: >> glusterfs >> qemu >> vdsm >> > > can you please include the yum output log?
Sorry yes. Attached are three outputs. First my repolist. Then yum update with no options, and yum update with --skip-broken (so you can see the lurking issues masked by the first failure).
It appears that the glusterfs issue is due to a newer version offered by rhel-x86_64-server-6: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64. This has dependencies which conflict with the version provided by ovirt-stable (and glusterfs-epel).
It looks like there was a large update to the Red Hat repo last night that has caused conflicts with ovirt-stable.
Note I can get it to the point where it's willing to install packages if I specify --skip-broken and also --exclude vdsm-python-4.12.1, but that's a bit too scary for me without checking first.
oh, you may caught rhel repo in middle of a refresh - try again in a few hours first, but could be the refresh may cause an issue we'd need to resolve.
Not sure why I'm the only person reporting this (am I the only person who runs RH 6 on their KVM hosts who has tried upgrading??), but the problem has not resolved.
What's the next step? Does it need a bug opened?
Let me know if I can provide any more information.
have you tried refreshing your repo / clear yum cache? (since glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6 should be in the repo)
I just did "yum clean all; yum update". Same result.
do you have glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6 in the repo?
Apparently:
Error: Package: glusterfs-cli-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 (@glusterfs-epel) Requires: glusterfs-libs = 3.4.0-8.el6 Removing: glusterfs-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 (@glusterfs-epel) glusterfs-libs = 3.4.0-8.el6 Updated By: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 (rhel-x86_64-server-6) Not found Removing: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 (@glusterfs-epel) glusterfs-libs = 3.4.0-8.el6 Updated By: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 (rhel-x86_64-server-6) glusterfs-libs = 3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6 Available: glusterfs-3.2.7-1.el6.i686 (epel) glusterfs-libs = 3.2.7-1.el6
-Bob
-Bob
Thanks, Bob
Thanks, Bob
> >> and also to a multilib version error due to vdsm-python 4.12 and >> 4.13. >> >> What's the proper upgrade procedure for a Host? >> >> Thanks, >> Bob >> >> On 11/21/2013 10:43 AM, Kiril Nesenko wrote: >>> The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general >>> availability of oVirt 3.3.1 as of November 21th 2013. This >>> release >>> solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application, and >>> open >>> source alternative to VMware vSphere. >>> >>> oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise >>> Linux 6.4 >>> (or similar). >>> >>> See release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bug >>> fixed. >>> >>> [1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes >>> >>> - Kiril >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Users mailing list >>> Users@ovirt.org >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> Users@ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >

On 11/22/2013 02:55 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 07:53 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/22/2013 02:52 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 07:48 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/22/2013 02:33 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 12:57 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/21/2013 07:38 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote: > > On 11/21/2013 12:00 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: >> On 11/21/2013 06:32 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote: >>> Yay! >>> >>> Congratulations to all of the oVirt team. >>> >>> I am having trouble locating upgrade instructions, however. >>> There's >>> nothing in the release notes. >>> >>> I discovered through trial-and-error that running "engine-setup" >>> again >>> handles upgrade of the Engine. >>> >>> But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I try to >>> run >>> "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: >>> glusterfs >>> qemu >>> vdsm >>> >> >> can you please include the yum output log? > > Sorry yes. Attached are three outputs. First my repolist. Then yum > update with no options, and yum update with --skip-broken (so you > can > see the lurking issues masked by the first failure). > > It appears that the glusterfs issue is due to a newer version > offered by > rhel-x86_64-server-6: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64. This has > dependencies which conflict with the version provided by > ovirt-stable > (and glusterfs-epel). > > It looks like there was a large update to the Red Hat repo last > night > that has caused conflicts with ovirt-stable. > > Note I can get it to the point where it's willing to install > packages if > I specify --skip-broken and also --exclude vdsm-python-4.12.1, but > that's a bit too scary for me without checking first.
oh, you may caught rhel repo in middle of a refresh - try again in a few hours first, but could be the refresh may cause an issue we'd need to resolve.
Not sure why I'm the only person reporting this (am I the only person who runs RH 6 on their KVM hosts who has tried upgrading??), but the problem has not resolved.
What's the next step? Does it need a bug opened?
Let me know if I can provide any more information.
have you tried refreshing your repo / clear yum cache? (since glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6 should be in the repo)
I just did "yum clean all; yum update". Same result.
do you have glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6 in the repo?
Apparently:
Error: Package: glusterfs-cli-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 (@glusterfs-epel) Requires: glusterfs-libs = 3.4.0-8.el6 Removing: glusterfs-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 (@glusterfs-epel) glusterfs-libs = 3.4.0-8.el6 Updated By: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 (rhel-x86_64-server-6) Not found
ok, glusterfs and -libs exist. the matching cli doesn't. vijay - thoughts?
Removing: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 (@glusterfs-epel) glusterfs-libs = 3.4.0-8.el6 Updated By: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 (rhel-x86_64-server-6) glusterfs-libs = 3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6 Available: glusterfs-3.2.7-1.el6.i686 (epel) glusterfs-libs = 3.2.7-1.el6
-Bob
-Bob
Thanks, Bob
> > Thanks, > Bob > >> >>> and also to a multilib version error due to vdsm-python 4.12 and >>> 4.13. >>> >>> What's the proper upgrade procedure for a Host? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Bob >>> >>> On 11/21/2013 10:43 AM, Kiril Nesenko wrote: >>>> The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general >>>> availability of oVirt 3.3.1 as of November 21th 2013. This >>>> release >>>> solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application, and >>>> open >>>> source alternative to VMware vSphere. >>>> >>>> oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise >>>> Linux 6.4 >>>> (or similar). >>>> >>>> See release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bug >>>> fixed. >>>> >>>> [1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes >>>> >>>> - Kiril >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Users mailing list >>>> Users@ovirt.org >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Users mailing list >>> Users@ovirt.org >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> >

On 11/22/2013 06:25 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 07:53 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/22/2013 02:52 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 07:48 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/22/2013 02:33 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 12:57 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/21/2013 07:38 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote: > > On 11/21/2013 12:00 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: >> On 11/21/2013 06:32 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote: >>> Yay! >>> >>> Congratulations to all of the oVirt team. >>> >>> I am having trouble locating upgrade instructions, however. >>> There's >>> nothing in the release notes. >>> >>> I discovered through trial-and-error that running "engine-setup" >>> again >>> handles upgrade of the Engine. >>> >>> But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I try to >>> run >>> "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: >>> glusterfs >>> qemu >>> vdsm >>> >> >> can you please include the yum output log? > > Sorry yes. Attached are three outputs. First my repolist. Then yum > update with no options, and yum update with --skip-broken (so you > can > see the lurking issues masked by the first failure). > > It appears that the glusterfs issue is due to a newer version > offered by > rhel-x86_64-server-6: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64. This has > dependencies which conflict with the version provided by > ovirt-stable > (and glusterfs-epel). > > It looks like there was a large update to the Red Hat repo last > night > that has caused conflicts with ovirt-stable. > > Note I can get it to the point where it's willing to install > packages if > I specify --skip-broken and also --exclude vdsm-python-4.12.1, but > that's a bit too scary for me without checking first.
oh, you may caught rhel repo in middle of a refresh - try again in a few hours first, but could be the refresh may cause an issue we'd need to resolve.
Not sure why I'm the only person reporting this (am I the only person who runs RH 6 on their KVM hosts who has tried upgrading??), but the problem has not resolved.
What's the next step? Does it need a bug opened?
Let me know if I can provide any more information.
have you tried refreshing your repo / clear yum cache? (since glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6 should be in the repo)
I just did "yum clean all; yum update". Same result.
do you have glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6 in the repo?
Apparently:
Error: Package: glusterfs-cli-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 (@glusterfs-epel) Requires: glusterfs-libs = 3.4.0-8.el6 Removing: glusterfs-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 (@glusterfs-epel) glusterfs-libs = 3.4.0-8.el6 Updated By: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 (rhel-x86_64-server-6) Not found Removing: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 (@glusterfs-epel) glusterfs-libs = 3.4.0-8.el6 Updated By: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 (rhel-x86_64-server-6) glusterfs-libs = 3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6 Available: glusterfs-3.2.7-1.el6.i686 (epel) glusterfs-libs = 3.2.7-1.el6
If you are using EPEL packages to create/run gluster volumes on RHEL (essentially the server side functionality of gluster), it would be better to move to GlusterFS 3.4.1 and then try the upgrade. If you are not making use of gluster's server side packages, you can remove glusterfs-cli and related dependencies. If an upgrade is initiated after that, it should go through. Regards, Vijay

On 11/22/2013 06:08 AM, Vijay Bellur wrote:
On 11/22/2013 06:25 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 07:53 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/22/2013 02:52 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 07:48 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/22/2013 02:33 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 12:57 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: > On 11/21/2013 07:38 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote: >> >> On 11/21/2013 12:00 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: >>> On 11/21/2013 06:32 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote: >>>> Yay! >>>> >>>> Congratulations to all of the oVirt team. >>>> >>>> I am having trouble locating upgrade instructions, however. >>>> There's >>>> nothing in the release notes. >>>> >>>> I discovered through trial-and-error that running "engine-setup" >>>> again >>>> handles upgrade of the Engine. >>>> >>>> But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I try to >>>> run >>>> "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: >>>> glusterfs >>>> qemu >>>> vdsm >>>> >>> >>> can you please include the yum output log? >> >> Sorry yes. Attached are three outputs. First my repolist. Then yum >> update with no options, and yum update with --skip-broken (so you >> can >> see the lurking issues masked by the first failure). >> >> It appears that the glusterfs issue is due to a newer version >> offered by >> rhel-x86_64-server-6: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64. This has >> dependencies which conflict with the version provided by >> ovirt-stable >> (and glusterfs-epel). >> >> It looks like there was a large update to the Red Hat repo last >> night >> that has caused conflicts with ovirt-stable. >> >> Note I can get it to the point where it's willing to install >> packages if >> I specify --skip-broken and also --exclude vdsm-python-4.12.1, but >> that's a bit too scary for me without checking first. > > oh, you may caught rhel repo in middle of a refresh - try again in a > few hours first, but could be the refresh may cause an issue we'd > need > to resolve.
Not sure why I'm the only person reporting this (am I the only person who runs RH 6 on their KVM hosts who has tried upgrading??), but the problem has not resolved.
What's the next step? Does it need a bug opened?
Let me know if I can provide any more information.
have you tried refreshing your repo / clear yum cache? (since glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6 should be in the repo)
I just did "yum clean all; yum update". Same result.
do you have glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6 in the repo?
Apparently:
Error: Package: glusterfs-cli-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 (@glusterfs-epel) Requires: glusterfs-libs = 3.4.0-8.el6 Removing: glusterfs-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 (@glusterfs-epel) glusterfs-libs = 3.4.0-8.el6 Updated By: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 (rhel-x86_64-server-6) Not found Removing: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 (@glusterfs-epel) glusterfs-libs = 3.4.0-8.el6 Updated By: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 (rhel-x86_64-server-6) glusterfs-libs = 3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6 Available: glusterfs-3.2.7-1.el6.i686 (epel) glusterfs-libs = 3.2.7-1.el6
If you are using EPEL packages to create/run gluster volumes on RHEL (essentially the server side functionality of gluster), it would be better to move to GlusterFS 3.4.1 and then try the upgrade.
If you are not making use of gluster's server side packages, you can remove glusterfs-cli and related dependencies. If an upgrade is initiated after that, it should go through.
Regards, Vijay
doesn't vdsm require vdsm-gluster which requires them?

On 11/22/2013 01:00 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/22/2013 06:08 AM, Vijay Bellur wrote:
On 11/22/2013 06:25 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 07:53 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/22/2013 02:52 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 07:48 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/22/2013 02:33 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote: > > On 11/21/2013 12:57 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: >> On 11/21/2013 07:38 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote: >>> >>> On 11/21/2013 12:00 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: >>>> On 11/21/2013 06:32 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote: >>>>> Yay! >>>>> >>>>> Congratulations to all of the oVirt team. >>>>> >>>>> I am having trouble locating upgrade instructions, however. >>>>> There's >>>>> nothing in the release notes. >>>>> >>>>> I discovered through trial-and-error that running "engine-setup" >>>>> again >>>>> handles upgrade of the Engine. >>>>> >>>>> But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I >>>>> try to >>>>> run >>>>> "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: >>>>> glusterfs >>>>> qemu >>>>> vdsm >>>>> >>>> >>>> can you please include the yum output log? >>> >>> Sorry yes. Attached are three outputs. First my repolist. Then yum >>> update with no options, and yum update with --skip-broken (so you >>> can >>> see the lurking issues masked by the first failure). >>> >>> It appears that the glusterfs issue is due to a newer version >>> offered by >>> rhel-x86_64-server-6: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64. This has >>> dependencies which conflict with the version provided by >>> ovirt-stable >>> (and glusterfs-epel). >>> >>> It looks like there was a large update to the Red Hat repo last >>> night >>> that has caused conflicts with ovirt-stable. >>> >>> Note I can get it to the point where it's willing to install >>> packages if >>> I specify --skip-broken and also --exclude vdsm-python-4.12.1, but >>> that's a bit too scary for me without checking first. >> >> oh, you may caught rhel repo in middle of a refresh - try again >> in a >> few hours first, but could be the refresh may cause an issue we'd >> need >> to resolve. > > Not sure why I'm the only person reporting this (am I the only > person > who runs RH 6 on their KVM hosts who has tried upgrading??), but the > problem has not resolved. > > What's the next step? Does it need a bug opened? > > Let me know if I can provide any more information. >
have you tried refreshing your repo / clear yum cache? (since glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6 should be in the repo)
I just did "yum clean all; yum update". Same result.
do you have glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6 in the repo?
Apparently:
Error: Package: glusterfs-cli-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 (@glusterfs-epel) Requires: glusterfs-libs = 3.4.0-8.el6 Removing: glusterfs-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 (@glusterfs-epel) glusterfs-libs = 3.4.0-8.el6 Updated By: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 (rhel-x86_64-server-6) Not found Removing: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 (@glusterfs-epel) glusterfs-libs = 3.4.0-8.el6 Updated By: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 (rhel-x86_64-server-6) glusterfs-libs = 3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6 Available: glusterfs-3.2.7-1.el6.i686 (epel) glusterfs-libs = 3.2.7-1.el6
If you are using EPEL packages to create/run gluster volumes on RHEL (essentially the server side functionality of gluster), it would be better to move to GlusterFS 3.4.1 and then try the upgrade.
If you are not making use of gluster's server side packages, you can remove glusterfs-cli and related dependencies. If an upgrade is initiated after that, it should go through.
Regards, Vijay
doesn't vdsm require vdsm-gluster which requires them?
vdsm requires vdsm-gluster only in gluster, gluster+virt clusters. Hence if gluster server side functionality is being exercised, we would need to use EPEL packages. For a virt only cluster, only the client side packages are needed and RHEL 6.5 has these packages. Thanks, Vijay

On 11/22/2013 11:21 AM, Vijay Bellur wrote:
On 11/22/2013 01:00 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/22/2013 06:08 AM, Vijay Bellur wrote:
On 11/22/2013 06:25 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 07:53 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/22/2013 02:52 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 07:48 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: > On 11/22/2013 02:33 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote: >> >> On 11/21/2013 12:57 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: >>> On 11/21/2013 07:38 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote: >>>> >>>> On 11/21/2013 12:00 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: >>>>> On 11/21/2013 06:32 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote: >>>>>> Yay! >>>>>> >>>>>> Congratulations to all of the oVirt team. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am having trouble locating upgrade instructions, however. >>>>>> There's >>>>>> nothing in the release notes. >>>>>> >>>>>> I discovered through trial-and-error that running >>>>>> "engine-setup" >>>>>> again >>>>>> handles upgrade of the Engine. >>>>>> >>>>>> But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I >>>>>> try to >>>>>> run >>>>>> "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: >>>>>> glusterfs >>>>>> qemu >>>>>> vdsm >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> can you please include the yum output log? >>>> >>>> Sorry yes. Attached are three outputs. First my repolist. Then >>>> yum >>>> update with no options, and yum update with --skip-broken (so you >>>> can >>>> see the lurking issues masked by the first failure). >>>> >>>> It appears that the glusterfs issue is due to a newer version >>>> offered by >>>> rhel-x86_64-server-6: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64. This >>>> has >>>> dependencies which conflict with the version provided by >>>> ovirt-stable >>>> (and glusterfs-epel). >>>> >>>> It looks like there was a large update to the Red Hat repo last >>>> night >>>> that has caused conflicts with ovirt-stable. >>>> >>>> Note I can get it to the point where it's willing to install >>>> packages if >>>> I specify --skip-broken and also --exclude vdsm-python-4.12.1, >>>> but >>>> that's a bit too scary for me without checking first. >>> >>> oh, you may caught rhel repo in middle of a refresh - try again >>> in a >>> few hours first, but could be the refresh may cause an issue we'd >>> need >>> to resolve. >> >> Not sure why I'm the only person reporting this (am I the only >> person >> who runs RH 6 on their KVM hosts who has tried upgrading??), but >> the >> problem has not resolved. >> >> What's the next step? Does it need a bug opened? >> >> Let me know if I can provide any more information. >> > > have you tried refreshing your repo / clear yum cache? > (since glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6 should be in the repo)
I just did "yum clean all; yum update". Same result.
do you have glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6 in the repo?
Apparently:
Error: Package: glusterfs-cli-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 (@glusterfs-epel) Requires: glusterfs-libs = 3.4.0-8.el6 Removing: glusterfs-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 (@glusterfs-epel) glusterfs-libs = 3.4.0-8.el6 Updated By: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 (rhel-x86_64-server-6) Not found Removing: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 (@glusterfs-epel) glusterfs-libs = 3.4.0-8.el6 Updated By: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 (rhel-x86_64-server-6) glusterfs-libs = 3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6 Available: glusterfs-3.2.7-1.el6.i686 (epel) glusterfs-libs = 3.2.7-1.el6
If you are using EPEL packages to create/run gluster volumes on RHEL (essentially the server side functionality of gluster), it would be better to move to GlusterFS 3.4.1 and then try the upgrade.
If you are not making use of gluster's server side packages, you can remove glusterfs-cli and related dependencies. If an upgrade is initiated after that, it should go through.
Regards, Vijay
doesn't vdsm require vdsm-gluster which requires them?
vdsm requires vdsm-gluster only in gluster, gluster+virt clusters. Hence if gluster server side functionality is being exercised, we would need to use EPEL packages.
For a virt only cluster, only the client side packages are needed and RHEL 6.5 has these packages.
vijay - didn't we add gluster-cli for libgfapi support in core vdsm?

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 05:51:48PM +0200, Itamar Heim wrote:
doesn't vdsm require vdsm-gluster which requires them?
vdsm requires vdsm-gluster only in gluster, gluster+virt clusters. Hence if gluster server side functionality is being exercised, we would need to use EPEL packages.
For a virt only cluster, only the client side packages are needed and RHEL 6.5 has these packages.
vijay - didn't we add gluster-cli for libgfapi support in core vdsm?
glusterVolume uses the cli to only to tell if it's using tcp or rdma. This vdsm dependency is currently a soft one (not declared in the spec), and would only affect users which attempt to user true glusterfs storage domains without installing gluster-cli. "Luckily" we do not have this problem since we can only use gluster-fuse.. Dan.

On 11/22/2013 11:45 AM, Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 05:51:48PM +0200, Itamar Heim wrote:
doesn't vdsm require vdsm-gluster which requires them? vdsm requires vdsm-gluster only in gluster, gluster+virt clusters. Hence if gluster server side functionality is being exercised, we would need to use EPEL packages.
For a virt only cluster, only the client side packages are needed and RHEL 6.5 has these packages. vijay - didn't we add gluster-cli for libgfapi support in core vdsm? glusterVolume uses the cli to only to tell if it's using tcp or rdma. This vdsm dependency is currently a soft one (not declared in the spec), and would only affect users which attempt to user true glusterfs storage domains without installing gluster-cli.
This is not what I see. I see that vdsm.x86_64 has a dependency on glusterfs-cli: # rpm -qa --whatrequires glusterfs-cli vdsm-4.12.1-4.el6.x86_64 Hence the problem, since the new version of glusterfs does not deliver this package. -Bob
"Luckily" we do not have this problem since we can only use gluster-fuse..
Dan.

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:36:41PM -0500, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/22/2013 11:45 AM, Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 05:51:48PM +0200, Itamar Heim wrote:
doesn't vdsm require vdsm-gluster which requires them? vdsm requires vdsm-gluster only in gluster, gluster+virt clusters. Hence if gluster server side functionality is being exercised, we would need to use EPEL packages.
For a virt only cluster, only the client side packages are needed and RHEL 6.5 has these packages. vijay - didn't we add gluster-cli for libgfapi support in core vdsm? glusterVolume uses the cli to only to tell if it's using tcp or rdma. This vdsm dependency is currently a soft one (not declared in the spec), and would only affect users which attempt to user true glusterfs storage domains without installing gluster-cli.
This is not what I see. I see that vdsm.x86_64 has a dependency on glusterfs-cli:
# rpm -qa --whatrequires glusterfs-cli vdsm-4.12.1-4.el6.x86_64
You are correct. My statement about vdsm's dependency is valid only for the not-yet-released rhev-3.3.0 (and thus, is not really apropriate for this venue).
Hence the problem, since the new version of glusterfs does not deliver this package.
I still think that your problem stems from mixing and matching epel-gluster repositories with rhs ones. It would be easier to deploy oVirt+epel-gluster and rhev+rhs. Dan.

Hi, well we in Europe tend to sleep :) beside that: we don't run RHEL, but CentOS, and we didn't try upgrading our compute nodes until know. Am 22.11.2013 01:33, schrieb Bob Doolittle:
Not sure why I'm the only person reporting this (am I the only person who runs RH 6 on their KVM hosts who has tried upgrading??), but the problem has not resolved.
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Bob Doolittle <bob@...> writes:
On 11/21/2013 12:57 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/21/2013 07:38 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 12:00 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/21/2013 06:32 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
Yay!
Congratulations to all of the oVirt team.
I am having trouble locating upgrade instructions, however. There's nothing in the release notes.
I discovered through trial-and-error that running "engine-setup"
again
handles upgrade of the Engine.
But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I try to run "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: glusterfs qemu vdsm
can you please include the yum output log?
Sorry yes. Attached are three outputs. First my repolist. Then yum update with no options, and yum update with --skip-broken (so you can see the lurking issues masked by the first failure).
It appears that the glusterfs issue is due to a newer version offered by rhel-x86_64-server-6: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64. This has dependencies which conflict with the version provided by ovirt-stable (and glusterfs-epel).
It looks like there was a large update to the Red Hat repo last night that has caused conflicts with ovirt-stable.
Note I can get it to the point where it's willing to install packages if I specify --skip-broken and also --exclude vdsm-python-4.12.1, but that's a bit too scary for me without checking first.
oh, you may caught rhel repo in middle of a refresh - try again in a few hours first, but could be the refresh may cause an issue we'd need to resolve.
Not sure why I'm the only person reporting this (am I the only person who runs RH 6 on their KVM hosts who has tried upgrading??), but the problem has not resolved.
What's the next step? Does it need a bug opened?
Let me know if I can provide any more information.
Thanks, Bob
Thanks, Bob
and also to a multilib version error due to vdsm-python 4.12 and
4.13.
What's the proper upgrade procedure for a Host?
Thanks, Bob
On 11/21/2013 10:43 AM, Kiril Nesenko wrote:
The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general availability of oVirt 3.3.1 as of November 21th 2013. This release solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application, and open source alternative to VMware vSphere.
oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux
6.4
(or similar).
See release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bug fixed.
[1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes
- Kiril
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I'am experiencing same exact issue with upgrade on RHEL 6.4 and vdsm for oVirt installed. However, I did a little searching, and for me it seems it is like this: vds requires these glsuterfs packages to have the latest version: glusterfs glusterfs-api glusterfs-cli glusterfs-fuse glusterfs-libs In RHEL repository are these packages are with version 3.4.0.36rhs- 1.el6.x86_64 EXCEPT for glusterfs-cli, which RHEL repo doesn't have at all. oVirt repo has all those packages with version 3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64, which is older than RHEL repo packages. Hence, there is conflict. During vdsm update or even installation on RHEL 6.4 it tries to install the latest of all those packages. Looks likes this: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 glusterfs-api-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 glusterfs-fuse-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 requires: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 glusterfs-cli-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 requires: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 While this is not fixed, in my opinion, ovirt installation from repository on RHEL 6.4 is essentially broken.

On 11/22/2013 06:54 AM, Kristaps wrote:
Bob Doolittle <bob@...> writes:
On 11/21/2013 12:57 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/21/2013 07:38 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 12:00 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/21/2013 06:32 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
Yay!
Congratulations to all of the oVirt team.
I am having trouble locating upgrade instructions, however. There's nothing in the release notes.
I discovered through trial-and-error that running "engine-setup"
again
handles upgrade of the Engine.
But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I try to run "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: glusterfs qemu vdsm
can you please include the yum output log? Sorry yes. Attached are three outputs. First my repolist. Then yum update with no options, and yum update with --skip-broken (so you can see the lurking issues masked by the first failure).
It appears that the glusterfs issue is due to a newer version offered by rhel-x86_64-server-6: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64. This has dependencies which conflict with the version provided by ovirt-stable (and glusterfs-epel).
It looks like there was a large update to the Red Hat repo last night that has caused conflicts with ovirt-stable.
Note I can get it to the point where it's willing to install packages if I specify --skip-broken and also --exclude vdsm-python-4.12.1, but that's a bit too scary for me without checking first. oh, you may caught rhel repo in middle of a refresh - try again in a few hours first, but could be the refresh may cause an issue we'd need to resolve. Not sure why I'm the only person reporting this (am I the only person who runs RH 6 on their KVM hosts who has tried upgrading??), but the problem has not resolved.
What's the next step? Does it need a bug opened?
Let me know if I can provide any more information.
Thanks, Bob
Thanks, Bob
and also to a multilib version error due to vdsm-python 4.12 and 4.13. What's the proper upgrade procedure for a Host?
Thanks, Bob
On 11/21/2013 10:43 AM, Kiril Nesenko wrote: > The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general > availability of oVirt 3.3.1 as of November 21th 2013. This release > solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application, and open > source alternative to VMware vSphere. > > oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.4 > (or similar). > > See release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bug fixed. > > [1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes > > - Kiril > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users@... > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@... http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users I'am experiencing same exact issue with upgrade on RHEL 6.4 and vdsm for oVirt installed.
However, I did a little searching, and for me it seems it is like this: vds requires these glsuterfs packages to have the latest version:
glusterfs glusterfs-api glusterfs-cli glusterfs-fuse glusterfs-libs
In RHEL repository are these packages are with version 3.4.0.36rhs- 1.el6.x86_64 EXCEPT for glusterfs-cli, which RHEL repo doesn't have at all.
oVirt repo has all those packages with version 3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64, which is older than RHEL repo packages.
Hence, there is conflict. During vdsm update or even installation on RHEL 6.4 it tries to install the latest of all those packages. Looks likes this:
glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 glusterfs-api-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 glusterfs-fuse-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 requires: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64
glusterfs-cli-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 requires: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64
While this is not fixed, in my opinion, ovirt installation from repository on RHEL 6.4 is essentially broken.
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Thank you for confirming that this is indeed an issue. I was beginning to think it was just me somehow. I have opened https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1033587 to track this. I agree it seems to be a very big issue for RHEL 6 users. And we can't simply uninstall glusterfs-cli, as Vijay suggested, because it is required by vdsm. So I'm not seeing any easy workaround at the moment. I'm wondering if the qemu issue I was when I tried --skip-broken is just an artifact of this, or some other issue entirely. We won't know until this glusterfs-cli issue is resolved. -Bob

On 11/22/2013 06:23 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/22/2013 06:54 AM, Kristaps wrote:
Bob Doolittle <bob@...> writes:
On 11/21/2013 12:57 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/21/2013 07:38 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 12:00 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/21/2013 06:32 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote: > Yay! > > Congratulations to all of the oVirt team. > > I am having trouble locating upgrade instructions, however. There's > nothing in the release notes. > > I discovered through trial-and-error that running "engine-setup"
again
> handles upgrade of the Engine. > > But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I try to > run > "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: > glusterfs > qemu > vdsm > can you please include the yum output log? Sorry yes. Attached are three outputs. First my repolist. Then yum update with no options, and yum update with --skip-broken (so you can see the lurking issues masked by the first failure).
It appears that the glusterfs issue is due to a newer version offered by rhel-x86_64-server-6: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64. This has dependencies which conflict with the version provided by ovirt-stable (and glusterfs-epel).
It looks like there was a large update to the Red Hat repo last night that has caused conflicts with ovirt-stable.
Note I can get it to the point where it's willing to install packages if I specify --skip-broken and also --exclude vdsm-python-4.12.1, but that's a bit too scary for me without checking first. oh, you may caught rhel repo in middle of a refresh - try again in a few hours first, but could be the refresh may cause an issue we'd need to resolve. Not sure why I'm the only person reporting this (am I the only person who runs RH 6 on their KVM hosts who has tried upgrading??), but the problem has not resolved.
What's the next step? Does it need a bug opened?
Let me know if I can provide any more information.
Thanks, Bob
Thanks, Bob
> and also to a multilib version error due to vdsm-python 4.12 and 4.13. > What's the proper upgrade procedure for a Host? > > Thanks, > Bob > > On 11/21/2013 10:43 AM, Kiril Nesenko wrote: >> The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general >> availability of oVirt 3.3.1 as of November 21th 2013. This release >> solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application, and open >> source alternative to VMware vSphere. >> >> oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.4 >> (or similar). >> >> See release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bug fixed. >> >> [1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes >> >> - Kiril >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> Users@... >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users@... > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users I'am experiencing same exact issue with upgrade on RHEL 6.4 and vdsm for oVirt installed.
However, I did a little searching, and for me it seems it is like this: vds requires these glsuterfs packages to have the latest version:
glusterfs glusterfs-api glusterfs-cli glusterfs-fuse glusterfs-libs
In RHEL repository are these packages are with version 3.4.0.36rhs- 1.el6.x86_64 EXCEPT for glusterfs-cli, which RHEL repo doesn't have at all.
oVirt repo has all those packages with version 3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64, which is older than RHEL repo packages.
Hence, there is conflict. During vdsm update or even installation on RHEL 6.4 it tries to install the latest of all those packages. Looks likes this:
glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 glusterfs-api-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 glusterfs-fuse-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 requires: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64
glusterfs-cli-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 requires: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64
While this is not fixed, in my opinion, ovirt installation from repository on RHEL 6.4 is essentially broken.
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Thank you for confirming that this is indeed an issue. I was beginning to think it was just me somehow. I have opened https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1033587 to track this.
I agree it seems to be a very big issue for RHEL 6 users. And we can't simply uninstall glusterfs-cli, as Vijay suggested, because it is required by vdsm. So I'm not seeing any easy workaround at the moment.
Would it be possible to update to glusterfs-3.4.1 by adding this repo? http://download.gluster.org/pub/gluster/glusterfs/3.4/3.4.1/RHEL/glusterfs-e... Once the glusterfs packages are updated, the yum upgrade shouldn't break as glusterfs-3.4.0 is available in RHEL 6. -Vijay
I'm wondering if the qemu issue I was when I tried --skip-broken is just an artifact of this, or some other issue entirely. We won't know until this glusterfs-cli issue is resolved.
-Bob

On 11/22/2013 12:21 PM, Vijay Bellur wrote:
On 11/22/2013 06:23 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/22/2013 06:54 AM, Kristaps wrote:
Bob Doolittle <bob@...> writes:
On 11/21/2013 12:57 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/21/2013 07:38 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 12:00 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: > On 11/21/2013 06:32 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote: >> Yay! >> >> Congratulations to all of the oVirt team. >> >> I am having trouble locating upgrade instructions, however. >> There's >> nothing in the release notes. >> >> I discovered through trial-and-error that running "engine-setup"
again
>> handles upgrade of the Engine. >> >> But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I try to >> run >> "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: >> glusterfs >> qemu >> vdsm >> > can you please include the yum output log? Sorry yes. Attached are three outputs. First my repolist. Then yum update with no options, and yum update with --skip-broken (so you can see the lurking issues masked by the first failure).
It appears that the glusterfs issue is due to a newer version offered by rhel-x86_64-server-6: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64. This has dependencies which conflict with the version provided by ovirt-stable (and glusterfs-epel).
It looks like there was a large update to the Red Hat repo last night that has caused conflicts with ovirt-stable.
Note I can get it to the point where it's willing to install packages if I specify --skip-broken and also --exclude vdsm-python-4.12.1, but that's a bit too scary for me without checking first. oh, you may caught rhel repo in middle of a refresh - try again in a few hours first, but could be the refresh may cause an issue we'd need to resolve. Not sure why I'm the only person reporting this (am I the only person who runs RH 6 on their KVM hosts who has tried upgrading??), but the problem has not resolved.
What's the next step? Does it need a bug opened?
Let me know if I can provide any more information.
Thanks, Bob
Thanks, Bob
>> and also to a multilib version error due to vdsm-python 4.12 and 4.13. >> What's the proper upgrade procedure for a Host? >> >> Thanks, >> Bob >> >> On 11/21/2013 10:43 AM, Kiril Nesenko wrote: >>> The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general >>> availability of oVirt 3.3.1 as of November 21th 2013. This >>> release >>> solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application, and >>> open >>> source alternative to VMware vSphere. >>> >>> oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.4 >>> (or similar). >>> >>> See release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bug >>> fixed. >>> >>> [1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes >>> >>> - Kiril >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Users mailing list >>> Users@... >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> Users@... >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users I'am experiencing same exact issue with upgrade on RHEL 6.4 and vdsm for oVirt installed.
However, I did a little searching, and for me it seems it is like this: vds requires these glsuterfs packages to have the latest version:
glusterfs glusterfs-api glusterfs-cli glusterfs-fuse glusterfs-libs
In RHEL repository are these packages are with version 3.4.0.36rhs- 1.el6.x86_64 EXCEPT for glusterfs-cli, which RHEL repo doesn't have at all.
oVirt repo has all those packages with version 3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64, which is older than RHEL repo packages.
Hence, there is conflict. During vdsm update or even installation on RHEL 6.4 it tries to install the latest of all those packages. Looks likes this:
glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 glusterfs-api-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 glusterfs-fuse-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 requires: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64
glusterfs-cli-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 requires: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64
While this is not fixed, in my opinion, ovirt installation from repository on RHEL 6.4 is essentially broken.
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Thank you for confirming that this is indeed an issue. I was beginning to think it was just me somehow. I have opened https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1033587 to track this.
I agree it seems to be a very big issue for RHEL 6 users. And we can't simply uninstall glusterfs-cli, as Vijay suggested, because it is required by vdsm. So I'm not seeing any easy workaround at the moment.
Would it be possible to update to glusterfs-3.4.1 by adding this repo?
http://download.gluster.org/pub/gluster/glusterfs/3.4/3.4.1/RHEL/glusterfs-e...
Once the glusterfs packages are updated, the yum upgrade shouldn't break as glusterfs-3.4.0 is available in RHEL 6.
-Vijay
Yes. If I update the glusterfs-epel.repo file to use 3.4.1 instead of 3.4.0, yum is happy to do the update. Hopefully there are no incompatibilities in the interfaces consumed by vdsm. So the question is how to solve this issue for oVirt, so that the new version is specified automatically? Thanks! -Bob -Bob

On 11/22/2013 12:21 PM, Vijay Bellur wrote:
On 11/22/2013 06:23 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/22/2013 06:54 AM, Kristaps wrote:
Bob Doolittle <bob@...> writes:
On 11/21/2013 12:57 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/21/2013 07:38 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/21/2013 12:00 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: > On 11/21/2013 06:32 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote: >> Yay! >> >> Congratulations to all of the oVirt team. >> >> I am having trouble locating upgrade instructions, however. >> There's >> nothing in the release notes. >> >> I discovered through trial-and-error that running "engine-setup"
again
>> handles upgrade of the Engine. >> >> But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I try to >> run >> "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: >> glusterfs >> qemu >> vdsm >> > can you please include the yum output log? Sorry yes. Attached are three outputs. First my repolist. Then yum update with no options, and yum update with --skip-broken (so you can see the lurking issues masked by the first failure).
It appears that the glusterfs issue is due to a newer version offered by rhel-x86_64-server-6: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64. This has dependencies which conflict with the version provided by ovirt-stable (and glusterfs-epel).
It looks like there was a large update to the Red Hat repo last night that has caused conflicts with ovirt-stable.
Note I can get it to the point where it's willing to install packages if I specify --skip-broken and also --exclude vdsm-python-4.12.1, but that's a bit too scary for me without checking first. oh, you may caught rhel repo in middle of a refresh - try again in a few hours first, but could be the refresh may cause an issue we'd need to resolve. Not sure why I'm the only person reporting this (am I the only person who runs RH 6 on their KVM hosts who has tried upgrading??), but the problem has not resolved.
What's the next step? Does it need a bug opened?
Let me know if I can provide any more information.
Thanks, Bob
Thanks, Bob
>> and also to a multilib version error due to vdsm-python 4.12 and 4.13. >> What's the proper upgrade procedure for a Host? >> >> Thanks, >> Bob >> >> On 11/21/2013 10:43 AM, Kiril Nesenko wrote: >>> The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general >>> availability of oVirt 3.3.1 as of November 21th 2013. This >>> release >>> solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application, and >>> open >>> source alternative to VMware vSphere. >>> >>> oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.4 >>> (or similar). >>> >>> See release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bug >>> fixed. >>> >>> [1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes >>> >>> - Kiril >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Users mailing list >>> Users@... >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> Users@... >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users I'am experiencing same exact issue with upgrade on RHEL 6.4 and vdsm for oVirt installed.
However, I did a little searching, and for me it seems it is like this: vds requires these glsuterfs packages to have the latest version:
glusterfs glusterfs-api glusterfs-cli glusterfs-fuse glusterfs-libs
In RHEL repository are these packages are with version 3.4.0.36rhs- 1.el6.x86_64 EXCEPT for glusterfs-cli, which RHEL repo doesn't have at all.
oVirt repo has all those packages with version 3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64, which is older than RHEL repo packages.
Hence, there is conflict. During vdsm update or even installation on RHEL 6.4 it tries to install the latest of all those packages. Looks likes this:
glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 glusterfs-api-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 glusterfs-fuse-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 requires: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64
glusterfs-cli-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 requires: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64
While this is not fixed, in my opinion, ovirt installation from repository on RHEL 6.4 is essentially broken.
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Thank you for confirming that this is indeed an issue. I was beginning to think it was just me somehow. I have opened https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1033587 to track this.
I agree it seems to be a very big issue for RHEL 6 users. And we can't simply uninstall glusterfs-cli, as Vijay suggested, because it is required by vdsm. So I'm not seeing any easy workaround at the moment.
Would it be possible to update to glusterfs-3.4.1 by adding this repo?
http://download.gluster.org/pub/gluster/glusterfs/3.4/3.4.1/RHEL/glusterfs-e...
Once the glusterfs packages are updated, the yum upgrade shouldn't break as glusterfs-3.4.0 is available in RHEL 6.
-Vijay
Vijay, Do you know why the glusterfs folks felt compelled to do a minor update of 3.4.0 to 3.4.1 utilizing an entirely new repository, instead of reusing the old repository with new versioning? That would have saved a lot of trouble... This is the sort of thing yum is designed to take care of, but not if you switch repos. -Bob

On 11/22/2013 11:18 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/22/2013 12:21 PM, Vijay Bellur wrote:
On 11/22/2013 06:23 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/22/2013 06:54 AM, Kristaps wrote:
Bob Doolittle <bob@...> writes:
On 11/21/2013 12:57 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
On 11/21/2013 07:38 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote: > On 11/21/2013 12:00 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: >> On 11/21/2013 06:32 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote: >>> Yay! >>> >>> Congratulations to all of the oVirt team. >>> >>> I am having trouble locating upgrade instructions, however. >>> There's >>> nothing in the release notes. >>> >>> I discovered through trial-and-error that running "engine-setup"
again
>>> handles upgrade of the Engine. >>> >>> But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I try to >>> run >>> "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: >>> glusterfs >>> qemu >>> vdsm >>> >> can you please include the yum output log? > Sorry yes. Attached are three outputs. First my repolist. Then yum > update with no options, and yum update with --skip-broken (so you > can > see the lurking issues masked by the first failure). > > It appears that the glusterfs issue is due to a newer version > offered by > rhel-x86_64-server-6: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64. This has > dependencies which conflict with the version provided by > ovirt-stable > (and glusterfs-epel). > > It looks like there was a large update to the Red Hat repo last > night > that has caused conflicts with ovirt-stable. > > Note I can get it to the point where it's willing to install > packages if > I specify --skip-broken and also --exclude vdsm-python-4.12.1, but > that's a bit too scary for me without checking first. oh, you may caught rhel repo in middle of a refresh - try again in a few hours first, but could be the refresh may cause an issue we'd need to resolve. Not sure why I'm the only person reporting this (am I the only person who runs RH 6 on their KVM hosts who has tried upgrading??), but the problem has not resolved.
What's the next step? Does it need a bug opened?
Let me know if I can provide any more information.
Thanks, Bob
> Thanks, > Bob > >>> and also to a multilib version error due to vdsm-python 4.12 and 4.13. >>> What's the proper upgrade procedure for a Host? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Bob >>> >>> On 11/21/2013 10:43 AM, Kiril Nesenko wrote: >>>> The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general >>>> availability of oVirt 3.3.1 as of November 21th 2013. This >>>> release >>>> solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application, and >>>> open >>>> source alternative to VMware vSphere. >>>> >>>> oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.4 >>>> (or similar). >>>> >>>> See release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bug >>>> fixed. >>>> >>>> [1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes >>>> >>>> - Kiril >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Users mailing list >>>> Users@... >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Users mailing list >>> Users@... >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users I'am experiencing same exact issue with upgrade on RHEL 6.4 and vdsm for oVirt installed.
However, I did a little searching, and for me it seems it is like this: vds requires these glsuterfs packages to have the latest version:
glusterfs glusterfs-api glusterfs-cli glusterfs-fuse glusterfs-libs
In RHEL repository are these packages are with version 3.4.0.36rhs- 1.el6.x86_64 EXCEPT for glusterfs-cli, which RHEL repo doesn't have at all.
oVirt repo has all those packages with version 3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64, which is older than RHEL repo packages.
Hence, there is conflict. During vdsm update or even installation on RHEL 6.4 it tries to install the latest of all those packages. Looks likes this:
glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 glusterfs-api-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 glusterfs-fuse-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 requires: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64
glusterfs-cli-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 requires: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64
While this is not fixed, in my opinion, ovirt installation from repository on RHEL 6.4 is essentially broken.
_______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Thank you for confirming that this is indeed an issue. I was beginning to think it was just me somehow. I have opened https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1033587 to track this.
I agree it seems to be a very big issue for RHEL 6 users. And we can't simply uninstall glusterfs-cli, as Vijay suggested, because it is required by vdsm. So I'm not seeing any easy workaround at the moment.
Would it be possible to update to glusterfs-3.4.1 by adding this repo?
http://download.gluster.org/pub/gluster/glusterfs/3.4/3.4.1/RHEL/glusterfs-e...
Once the glusterfs packages are updated, the yum upgrade shouldn't break as glusterfs-3.4.0 is available in RHEL 6.
-Vijay
Vijay,
Do you know why the glusterfs folks felt compelled to do a minor update of 3.4.0 to 3.4.1 utilizing an entirely new repository, instead of reusing the old repository with new versioning? That would have saved a lot of trouble... This is the sort of thing yum is designed to take care of, but not if you switch repos.
Adding Kaleb and Niels who will be able to answer this better. Thanks, Vijay

On 11/22/2013 12:52 PM, Vijay Bellur wrote:
On 11/22/2013 11:18 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/22/2013 12:21 PM, Vijay Bellur wrote:
On 11/22/2013 06:23 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
On 11/22/2013 06:54 AM, Kristaps wrote:
Bob Doolittle <bob@...> writes:
On 11/21/2013 12:57 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: > On 11/21/2013 07:38 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote: >> On 11/21/2013 12:00 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: >>> On 11/21/2013 06:32 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote: >>>> Yay! >>>> >>>> Congratulations to all of the oVirt team. >>>> >>>> I am having trouble locating upgrade instructions, however. >>>> There's >>>> nothing in the release notes. >>>> >>>> I discovered through trial-and-error that running "engine-setup"
again
>>>> handles upgrade of the Engine. >>>> >>>> But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I >>>> try to >>>> run >>>> "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: >>>> glusterfs >>>> qemu >>>> vdsm >>>> >>> can you please include the yum output log? >> Sorry yes. Attached are three outputs. First my repolist. Then yum >> update with no options, and yum update with --skip-broken (so you >> can >> see the lurking issues masked by the first failure). >> >> It appears that the glusterfs issue is due to a newer version >> offered by >> rhel-x86_64-server-6: glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64. This has >> dependencies which conflict with the version provided by >> ovirt-stable >> (and glusterfs-epel). >> >> It looks like there was a large update to the Red Hat repo last >> night >> that has caused conflicts with ovirt-stable. >> >> Note I can get it to the point where it's willing to install >> packages if >> I specify --skip-broken and also --exclude vdsm-python-4.12.1, but >> that's a bit too scary for me without checking first. > oh, you may caught rhel repo in middle of a refresh - try again > in a > few hours first, but could be the refresh may cause an issue we'd > need > to resolve. Not sure why I'm the only person reporting this (am I the only person who runs RH 6 on their KVM hosts who has tried upgrading??), but the problem has not resolved.
What's the next step? Does it need a bug opened?
Let me know if I can provide any more information.
Thanks, Bob
>> Thanks, >> Bob >> >>>> and also to a multilib version error due to vdsm-python 4.12 and 4.13. >>>> What's the proper upgrade procedure for a Host? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> On 11/21/2013 10:43 AM, Kiril Nesenko wrote: >>>>> The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the >>>>> general >>>>> availability of oVirt 3.3.1 as of November 21th 2013. This >>>>> release >>>>> solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application, and >>>>> open >>>>> source alternative to VMware vSphere. >>>>> >>>>> oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise >>>>> Linux 6.4 >>>>> (or similar). >>>>> >>>>> See release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bug >>>>> fixed. >>>>> >>>>> [1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes >>>>> >>>>> - Kiril >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Users mailing list >>>>> Users@... >>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Users mailing list >>>> Users@... >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users I'am experiencing same exact issue with upgrade on RHEL 6.4 and vdsm for oVirt installed.
However, I did a little searching, and for me it seems it is like this: vds requires these glsuterfs packages to have the latest version:
glusterfs glusterfs-api glusterfs-cli glusterfs-fuse glusterfs-libs
In RHEL repository are these packages are with version 3.4.0.36rhs- 1.el6.x86_64 EXCEPT for glusterfs-cli, which RHEL repo doesn't have at all.
oVirt repo has all those packages with version 3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64, which is older than RHEL repo packages.
Hence, there is conflict. During vdsm update or even installation on RHEL 6.4 it tries to install the latest of all those packages. Looks likes this:
glusterfs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 glusterfs-api-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 glusterfs-fuse-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64 requires: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0.36rhs-1.el6.x86_64
glusterfs-cli-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64 requires: glusterfs-libs-3.4.0-8.el6.x86_64
While this is not fixed, in my opinion, ovirt installation from repository on RHEL 6.4 is essentially broken.
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Thank you for confirming that this is indeed an issue. I was beginning to think it was just me somehow. I have opened https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1033587 to track this.
I agree it seems to be a very big issue for RHEL 6 users. And we can't simply uninstall glusterfs-cli, as Vijay suggested, because it is required by vdsm. So I'm not seeing any easy workaround at the moment.
Would it be possible to update to glusterfs-3.4.1 by adding this repo?
http://download.gluster.org/pub/gluster/glusterfs/3.4/3.4.1/RHEL/glusterfs-e...
Once the glusterfs packages are updated, the yum upgrade shouldn't break as glusterfs-3.4.0 is available in RHEL 6.
-Vijay
Vijay,
Do you know why the glusterfs folks felt compelled to do a minor update of 3.4.0 to 3.4.1 utilizing an entirely new repository, instead of reusing the old repository with new versioning? That would have saved a lot of trouble... This is the sort of thing yum is designed to take care of, but not if you switch repos.
Adding Kaleb and Niels who will be able to answer this better.
Another alternative would be to create a "stable" symlink to whichever repo is the latest. I'm still confused, though. Something must have changed in 3.4.0, since vdsm *used* to be able to find glusterfs-cli there, but no longer can. But apparently glusterfs-cli *is* in 3.4.1 What's up here? Thanks, Bob

http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes will answer all your questions On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Bob Doolittle <bob@doolittle.us.com> wrote:
Yay!
Congratulations to all of the oVirt team.
I am having trouble locating upgrade instructions, however. There's nothing in the release notes.
I discovered through trial-and-error that running "engine-setup" again handles upgrade of the Engine.
But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I try to run "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: glusterfs qemu vdsm
and also to a multilib version error due to vdsm-python 4.12 and 4.13.
What's the proper upgrade procedure for a Host?
Thanks, Bob
On 11/21/2013 10:43 AM, Kiril Nesenko wrote:
The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general availability of oVirt 3.3.1 as of November 21th 2013. This release solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application, and open source alternative to VMware vSphere.
oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.4 (or similar).
See release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bug fixed.
[1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes
- Kiril
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Actually not, but thanks. There's a bug that's been discovered (and filed) regarding this release's VDSM compatibility with the RHEL 6.5 release which unfortunately coincided on the same day. Read the whole thread for details. -Bob On Nov 23, 2013 10:34 AM, "squadra" <squadra@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes
will answer all your questions
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Bob Doolittle <bob@doolittle.us.com>wrote:
Yay!
Congratulations to all of the oVirt team.
I am having trouble locating upgrade instructions, however. There's nothing in the release notes.
I discovered through trial-and-error that running "engine-setup" again handles upgrade of the Engine.
But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I try to run "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: glusterfs qemu vdsm
and also to a multilib version error due to vdsm-python 4.12 and 4.13.
What's the proper upgrade procedure for a Host?
Thanks, Bob
On 11/21/2013 10:43 AM, Kiril Nesenko wrote:
The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general availability of oVirt 3.3.1 as of November 21th 2013. This release solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application, and open source alternative to VMware vSphere.
oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.4 (or similar).
See release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bug fixed.
[1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes
- Kiril
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On 11/21/2013 11:32 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I try to run "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: glusterfs qemu vdsm
and also to a multilib version error due to vdsm-python 4.12 and 4.13.
What's the proper upgrade procedure for a Host?
Just to summarize: There is a bug (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1033587) which prevents updates of the Host/Node for users of the Red Hat 6 official channels. A fix will be forthcoming. In the meantime, a workaround is to edit /etc/yum.repos.d/glusterfs-epel.repo to globally change the version string "3.4.0" to "LATEST". Thanks, Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Doolittle" <bob@doolittle.us.com> To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 12:05:20 AM Subject: Re: [Users] Trouble upgrading
On 11/21/2013 11:32 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I try to run "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: glusterfs qemu vdsm
and also to a multilib version error due to vdsm-python 4.12 and 4.13.
What's the proper upgrade procedure for a Host?
Just to summarize:
There is a bug (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1033587) which prevents updates of the Host/Node for users of the Red Hat 6 official channels. A fix will be forthcoming.
In the meantime, a workaround is to edit /etc/yum.repos.d/glusterfs-epel.repo to globally change the version string "3.4.0" to "LATEST".
I sent a fix [1] to vdsm to add glusterfs dependency conditionally. Please let me know if this helps. Regards, Bala [1] http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/21705/
Thanks, Bob
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On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 01:06:06AM -0500, Balamurugan Arumugam wrote:
On 11/21/2013 11:32 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I try to run "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: glusterfs qemu vdsm
and also to a multilib version error due to vdsm-python 4.12 and 4.13.
What's the proper upgrade procedure for a Host?
Just to summarize:
There is a bug (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1033587) which prevents updates of the Host/Node for users of the Red Hat 6 official channels. A fix will be forthcoming.
In the meantime, a workaround is to edit /etc/yum.repos.d/glusterfs-epel.repo to globally change the version string "3.4.0" to "LATEST".
I sent a fix [1] to vdsm to add glusterfs dependency conditionally. Please let me know if this helps.
Regards, Bala
I think that this is unhelpful for two reasons: 1. Bob complains about ovirt-3.3, and you patch master. 2. We cannot take your patch to master since we already have code that expects glusterfs>=3.4.1 (http://gerrit.ovirt.org/10200). I believe that taking http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/21794/ into ovirt-release would fix Bob's issues. Dan.

Il 28/11/2013 13:15, Dan Kenigsberg ha scritto:
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 01:06:06AM -0500, Balamurugan Arumugam wrote:
On 11/21/2013 11:32 AM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
But I don't know how to upgrade my RH 6.4 KVM host. When I try to run "yum update" it fails due to dependency errors notably in: glusterfs qemu vdsm
and also to a multilib version error due to vdsm-python 4.12 and 4.13.
What's the proper upgrade procedure for a Host?
Just to summarize:
There is a bug (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1033587) which prevents updates of the Host/Node for users of the Red Hat 6 official channels. A fix will be forthcoming.
In the meantime, a workaround is to edit /etc/yum.repos.d/glusterfs-epel.repo to globally change the version string "3.4.0" to "LATEST".
A new ovirt-release-9-1 rpm has been published in stable repo updating glusterfs release to LATEST.
I sent a fix [1] to vdsm to add glusterfs dependency conditionally. Please let me know if this helps.
Regards, Bala
I think that this is unhelpful for two reasons: 1. Bob complains about ovirt-3.3, and you patch master. 2. We cannot take your patch to master since we already have code that expects glusterfs>=3.4.1 (http://gerrit.ovirt.org/10200).
I believe that taking http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/21794/ into ovirt-release would fix Bob's issues.
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Am Donnerstag, den 21.11.2013, 10:43 -0500 schrieb Kiril Nesenko:
The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general availability of oVirt 3.3.1 as of November 21th 2013. This release solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application, and open source alternative to VMware vSphere.
oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.4 (or similar).
See release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bug fixed.
Hey, matching oVirt Node isos will be available shortly and will be announced here. - fabian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kiril Nesenko" <kiril@redhat.com> To: "arch" <arch@ovirt.org>, announce@ovirt.org, users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:43:41 PM Subject: [Users] oVirt 3.3.1 rlease
The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general availability of oVirt 3.3.1 as of November 21th 2013. This release solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application, and open source alternative to VMware vSphere.
oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.4 (or similar).
See release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bug fixed.
[1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes
- Kiril
Hello, Experimental Gentoo support for ovirt-engine-3.3.1 is available[1], feedback is welcomed. Regards, Alon Bar-Lev. [1] https://github.com/alonbl/ovirt-overlay

Il 26/11/2013 14:39, Alon Bar-Lev ha scritto:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kiril Nesenko" <kiril@redhat.com> To: "arch" <arch@ovirt.org>, announce@ovirt.org, users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:43:41 PM Subject: [Users] oVirt 3.3.1 rlease
The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general availability of oVirt 3.3.1 as of November 21th 2013. This release solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application, and open source alternative to VMware vSphere.
oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.4 (or similar).
See release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bug fixed.
[1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes
- Kiril
Hello,
Experimental Gentoo support for ovirt-engine-3.3.1 is available[1], feedback is welcomed.
Added to release notes [2] Alon can you write a few lines about upgrading / installing on Gentoo? [2] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes#Gentoo
Regards, Alon Bar-Lev.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandro Bonazzola" <sbonazzo@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com>, "Kiril Nesenko" <kiril@redhat.com> Cc: "arch" <arch@ovirt.org>, users@ovirt.org Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 9:49:47 AM Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.3.1 rlease
Il 26/11/2013 14:39, Alon Bar-Lev ha scritto:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kiril Nesenko" <kiril@redhat.com> To: "arch" <arch@ovirt.org>, announce@ovirt.org, users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:43:41 PM Subject: [Users] oVirt 3.3.1 rlease
The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general availability of oVirt 3.3.1 as of November 21th 2013. This release solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application, and open source alternative to VMware vSphere.
oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.4 (or similar).
See release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bug fixed.
[1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes
- Kiril
Hello,
Experimental Gentoo support for ovirt-engine-3.3.1 is available[1], feedback is welcomed.
Added to release notes [2] Alon can you write a few lines about upgrading / installing on Gentoo?
There is no upgrade as it is the first actual release... Instructions are at [1] [1] http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/OVirt
[2] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes#Gentoo
Regards, Alon Bar-Lev.
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Il 27/11/2013 08:52, Alon Bar-Lev ha scritto:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandro Bonazzola" <sbonazzo@redhat.com> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl@redhat.com>, "Kiril Nesenko" <kiril@redhat.com> Cc: "arch" <arch@ovirt.org>, users@ovirt.org Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 9:49:47 AM Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt 3.3.1 rlease
Il 26/11/2013 14:39, Alon Bar-Lev ha scritto:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kiril Nesenko" <kiril@redhat.com> To: "arch" <arch@ovirt.org>, announce@ovirt.org, users@ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:43:41 PM Subject: [Users] oVirt 3.3.1 rlease
The oVirt development team is very happy to announce the general availability of oVirt 3.3.1 as of November 21th 2013. This release solidifies oVirt as a leading KVM management application, and open source alternative to VMware vSphere.
oVirt is available now for Fedora 19 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.4 (or similar).
See release notes [1] for a list of the new features and bug fixed.
[1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes
- Kiril
Hello,
Experimental Gentoo support for ovirt-engine-3.3.1 is available[1], feedback is welcomed.
Added to release notes [2] Alon can you write a few lines about upgrading / installing on Gentoo?
There is no upgrade as it is the first actual release...
Instructions are at [1]
Thanks, added.
[2] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.3.1_release_notes#Gentoo
Regards, Alon Bar-Lev.
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participants (13)
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Alon Bar-Lev
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Balamurugan Arumugam
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Bob Doolittle
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Dan Kenigsberg
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Fabian Deutsch
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Gianluca Cecchi
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Itamar Heim
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Kiril Nesenko
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Kristaps
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Sandro Bonazzola
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squadra
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Sven Kieske
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Vijay Bellur