massive simultaneous vms migrations ?
- If there is a queuing system, is there a way to configure a maximum numb= er of simultaneous migrations ?<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data= -mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>I did see a "migration bandwidth limit", but th= is is quite what we are looking for.<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br= data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>my setup:<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><d= iv>ovirt-engine +hosted engine 4.1.1<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>hos= ts : centos 7.3 fully updated.<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-= mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div data-marker=3D"__SIG_PRE__"><div>for full contex= t to understand this question : 2 times in the past, when trying to put a h= ost in maintenance, host stopped responding during massive migrations and w= as fenced by engine. It's still unclear why host stopped responding, but we=
------=_Part_17504544_556632487.1492534095771 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello,=20 When putting a host on "maintenance mode", all vms start migrating to other= hosts.=20 We have some hosts that have 60 vms. So this will create a 60 vms migrating= simultaneously.=20 Some vms are under so much heavy loads that migration fails often (our gues= s is that massive simultaneous migrations does not help migration convergen= ce) - even with "suspend workload if needed" migraton policy.=20 - Does oVirt really launches 60 simultaneous migrations or is there a queui= ng system ?=20 - If there is a queuing system, is there a way to configure a maximum numbe= r of simultaneous migrations ?=20 I did see a "migration bandwidth limit", but this is quite what we are look= ing for.=20 my setup:=20 ovirt-engine +hosted engine 4.1.1=20 hosts : centos 7.3 fully updated.=20 for full context to understand this question : 2 times in the past, when tr= ying to put a host in maintenance, host stopped responding during massive m= igrations and was fenced by engine. It's still unclear why host stopped res= ponding, but we think that migrating 60+ vms simultaneously puts a heavy st= rain on storage ? So we would like to better control migration process in o= rder to better understand what's happening. This scenario is "production on= ly" since our labs do not contain nearly as much vm with such heavy loads. = So rather than trying to reproduce, we are trying to avoid ;)=20 cordialement, regards,=20 =09Nelson LAMEIRAS=20 Ing=C3=A9nieur Syst=C3=A8mes et R=C3=A9seaux / Systems and Networks enginee= r=20 Tel: +33 5 32 09 09 70=20 nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com=20 www.lyra-network.com | www.payzen.eu=20 =09 =09 =09 Lyra Network, 109 rue de l'innovation, 31670 Lab=C3=A8ge, FRANCE=20 ------=_Part_17504544_556632487.1492534095771 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_Part_17504545_1284472453.1492534095771" ------=_Part_17504545_1284472453.1492534095771 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-s= ize: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>hello,<br></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"= 1"></div><div>When putting a host on "maintenance mode", all vms start migr= ating to other hosts. </div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>We hav= e some hosts that have 60 vms. So this will create a 60 vms migrating simul= taneously.<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Some vms are under so much he= avy loads that migration fails often (our guess is that massive simultaneou= s migrations does not help migration convergence) - even with "suspend work= load if needed" migraton policy.<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br dat= a-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>- Does oVirt really launches 60 simultaneous m= igrations or is there a queuing system ?<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div= think that migrating 60+ vms simultaneously puts a heavy strain on storage= ? So we would like to better control migration process in order to better = understand what's happening. This scenario is "production only" since our l= abs do not contain nearly as much vm with such heavy loads. So rather than = trying to reproduce, we are trying to avoid ;)<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></di= v><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>cordialement, regards,</div><div=
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------=_Part_17958912_581886440.1492593291184 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello pavel,=20 Thanks for you answer.=20 I did find this parameter (only) in /etc/vdsm/vdsm.conf.rpmnew (??)=20 Parameter is commented with value 2 so my guess is that it is not used... S= o this brings a few more questions :=20 - Since parameter is commented, default value must be used... can we be sur= e that 2 is default value?=20 I do found strange that migrations are limited to 2, I have the feeling tha= t more than two are simultaneously being migrated (but I'm maybe wrong), ho= w to be sure?=20 cordialement, regards,=20 =09Nelson LAMEIRAS=20 Ing=C3=A9nieur Syst=C3=A8mes et R=C3=A9seaux / Systems and Networks enginee= r=20 Tel: +33 5 32 09 09 70=20 nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com=20 www.lyra-network.com | www.payzen.eu=20 =09 =09 =09 Lyra Network, 109 rue de l'innovation, 31670 Lab=C3=A8ge, FRANCE=20 From: "Pavel Gashev" <Pax@acronis.com>=20 To: users@ovirt.org, "nelson lameiras" <nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com>= =20 Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 7:16:08 PM=20 Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] massive simultaneous vms migrations ?=20 VDSM has the following config option:=20 # Maximum concurrent outgoing migrations=20 # max_outgoing_migrations =3D 2=20 On Tue, 2017-04-18 at 18:48 +0200, Nelson Lameiras wrote:=20 hello,=20 When putting a host on "maintenance mode", all vms start migrating to other= hosts.=20 We have some hosts that have 60 vms. So this will create a 60 vms migrating= simultaneously.=20 Some vms are under so much heavy loads that migration fails often (our gues= s is that massive simultaneous migrations does not help migration convergen= ce) - even with "suspend workload if needed" migraton policy.=20 - Does oVirt really launches 60 simultaneous migrations or is there a queui= ng system ?=20 - If there is a queuing system, is there a way to configure a maximum numbe= r of simultaneous migrations ?=20 I did see a "migration bandwidth limit", but this is quite what we are look= ing for.=20 my setup:=20 ovirt-engine +hosted engine 4.1.1=20 hosts : centos 7.3 fully updated.=20 for full context to understand this question : 2 times in the past, when tr= ying to put a host in maintenance, host stopped responding during massive m= igrations and was fenced by engine. It's still unclear why host stopped res= ponding, but we think that migrating 60+ vms simultaneously puts a heavy st= rain on storage ? So we would like to better control migration process in o= rder to better understand what's happening. This scenario is "production on= ly" since our labs do not contain nearly as much vm with such heavy loads. = So rather than trying to reproduce, we are trying to avoid ;)=20 cordialement, regards,=20 =09 =09 =09Nelson LAMEIRAS=20 =09Ing=C3=A9nieur Syst=C3=A8mes et R=C3=A9seaux / Systems and Networks engi= neer=20 =09Tel: +33 5 32 09 09 70=20 =09nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com=20 =09www.lyra-network.com | www.payzen.eu=20 =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 Lyra Network, 109 rue de l'innovation, 31670 Lab=C3=A8ge, FRANCE=20 _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/= users=20 ------=_Part_17958912_581886440.1492593291184 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_Part_17958913_1022873398.1492593291184" ------=_Part_17958913_1022873398.1492593291184 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-s= ize: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>hello pavel,<br></div><div><br data-mce-bog= us=3D"1"></div><div>Thanks for you answer.<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><d= iv>I did find this parameter (only) in /etc/vdsm/vdsm.conf.rpmnew (??)<br d= ata-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Paramete= r is commented with value 2 so my guess is that it is not used... So this b= rings a few more questions :<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mc= e-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>- Since parameter is commented, default value must= be used... can we be sure that 2 is default value?<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"=
</div><div>I do found strange that migrations are limited to 2, I have the= feeling that more than two are simultaneously being migrated (but I'm mayb= e wrong), how to be sure?<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-b= ogus=3D"1"></div><div data-marker=3D"__SIG_PRE__"><div>cordialement, regard= s,</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><table style=3D"margin: 0px; ta= ble-layout: fixed; border: none; width: 345pt; padding: 0px;" data-mce-styl= e=3D"margin: 0px; table-layout: fixed; border: none; width: 345pt; padding:= 0px;" width=3D"460" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0"><tbod= y><tr><td style=3D"margin: 0; font-size: 11px; font-family: Arial,sans-seri= f; color: #2b3c7a; line-height: 16px; width: 86.25pt; text-align: left;" da= ta-mce-style=3D"margin: 0; font-size: 11px; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; =
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<div><br> </div> <div>On Tue, 2017-04-18 at 18:48 +0200, Nelson Lameiras wrote:</div> <blockquote> <div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c= olor: #000000"> <div>hello,<br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div>When putting a host on "maintenance mode", all vms start migrating to = other hosts. </div> <div><br> </div> <div>We have some hosts that have 60 vms. So this will create a 60 vms migr= ating simultaneously.<br> </div> <div>Some vms are under so much heavy loads that migration fails often (our= guess is that massive simultaneous migrations does not help migration conv= ergence) - even with "suspend workload if needed" migraton policy.<br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div>- Does oVirt really launches 60 simultaneous migrations or is there a = queuing system ?<br> </div> <div>- If there is a queuing system, is there a way to configure a maximum = number of simultaneous migrations ?<br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div>I did see a "migration bandwidth limit", but this is quite what we are= looking for.<br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div>my setup:<br> </div> <div>ovirt-engine +hosted engine 4.1.1<br> </div> <div>hosts : centos 7.3 fully updated.<br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div> <div>for full context to understand this question : 2 times in the past, wh= en trying to put a host in maintenance, host stopped responding during mass= ive migrations and was fenced by engine. It's still unclear why host stoppe= d responding, but we think that migrating 60+ vms simultaneously puts a heavy strain on storage ? So we wo= uld like to better control migration process in order to better understand = what's happening. This scenario is "production only" since our labs do not = contain nearly as much vm with such heavy loads. So rather than trying to reproduce, we are trying to avoid ;)= <br> </div> <div><br> </div> <div>cordialement, regards,</div> <div><br> </div> <table style=3D"margin: 0px; table-layout: fixed; border: none; width: 345p= t; padding: 0px;" width=3D"460" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border= =3D"0"> <tbody> <tr> <td style=3D"margin: 0; font-size: 11px; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; col= or: #2b3c7a; line-height: 16px; width: 86.25pt; text-align: left;" width=3D= "115" valign=3D"top"> <a href=3D"https://www.lyra-network.com/" style=3D"border: none; text-decor= ation: none; width: 100%; display: block; clear: both;" target=3D"_blank"><= img src=3D"cid:1492535709.17056.4.camel@acronis.com" alt=3D"" width=3D"115"= height=3D"94" border=3D"0"></a><br> </td> <td style=3D"margin: 0; font-size: 11px; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; col= or: #2b3c7a; line-height: 16px; width: 258.75pt;" width=3D"345" valign=3D"t= op"> <table style=3D"margin: 0; width: 258.75pt; table-layout: fixed; border: no= ne;" width=3D"345" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0"> <tbody> <tr> <td style=3D"font-size: 16px; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #2b3c7a= ; line-height: 18px; font-weight: bold;"> Nelson LAMEIRAS</td> </tr> <tr> <td style=3D"font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #2b3c7a; font-size: 11px= ; line-height: 16px;"> Ing=C3=A9nieur Syst=C3=A8mes et R=C3=A9seaux<span style=3D"font-family: Ari= al,sans-serif; color: #337ab7; font-size: 11px;"> / Systems and Networks en= gineer</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td style=3D"line-height: 16px; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: #2b= 3c7a; font-size: 11px;"> <span style=3D"font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #2b3c7a; font-size: 11= px;">Tel: +33 5 32 09 09 70</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td style=3D"line-height: 16px; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: #2b= 3c7a; font-size: 11px;"> <a href=3D"mailto:nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com" style=3D"font-size: 11p= x; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; line-height: 16px; text-decoration: none;= " target=3D"_blank">nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com</a><br> </td> </tr> <tr> <td style=3D"line-height: 16px; 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I did find this parameter (only) in /etc/vdsm/vdsm.conf.rpmnew (??)
.rpmnew files are telling you that RPM could not update the configuration file automatically during package upgrade, because there was a manual change in it. You can use a tool like rpmconf or just copy it over vdsm.conf if you want the defaults. See for example: https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/25722/what-are-rpmnew-files/ https://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-list/2003-December/msg04713.html Best regards -- Martin Sivak SLA / oVirt On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Nelson Lameiras < nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com> wrote:
hello pavel,
Thanks for you answer. I did find this parameter (only) in /etc/vdsm/vdsm.conf.rpmnew (??)
Parameter is commented with value 2 so my guess is that it is not used... So this brings a few more questions :
- Since parameter is commented, default value must be used... can we be sure that 2 is default value? I do found strange that migrations are limited to 2, I have the feeling that more than two are simultaneously being migrated (but I'm maybe wrong), how to be sure?
cordialement, regards,
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------------------------------ *From: *"Pavel Gashev" <Pax@acronis.com> *To: *users@ovirt.org, "nelson lameiras" <nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com
*Sent: *Tuesday, April 18, 2017 7:16:08 PM *Subject: *Re: [ovirt-users] massive simultaneous vms migrations ?
VDSM has the following config option:
# Maximum concurrent outgoing migrations # max_outgoing_migrations = 2
On Tue, 2017-04-18 at 18:48 +0200, Nelson Lameiras wrote:
hello,
When putting a host on "maintenance mode", all vms start migrating to other hosts.
We have some hosts that have 60 vms. So this will create a 60 vms migrating simultaneously. Some vms are under so much heavy loads that migration fails often (our guess is that massive simultaneous migrations does not help migration convergence) - even with "suspend workload if needed" migraton policy.
- Does oVirt really launches 60 simultaneous migrations or is there a queuing system ? - If there is a queuing system, is there a way to configure a maximum number of simultaneous migrations ?
I did see a "migration bandwidth limit", but this is quite what we are looking for.
my setup: ovirt-engine +hosted engine 4.1.1 hosts : centos 7.3 fully updated.
for full context to understand this question : 2 times in the past, when trying to put a host in maintenance, host stopped responding during massive migrations and was fenced by engine. It's still unclear why host stopped responding, but we think that migrating 60+ vms simultaneously puts a heavy strain on storage ? So we would like to better control migration process in order to better understand what's happening. This scenario is "production only" since our labs do not contain nearly as much vm with such heavy loads. So rather than trying to reproduce, we are trying to avoid ;)
cordialement, regards,
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Hello. What is your Migration Network?
We have some hosts that have 60 vms. So this will create a 60 vms migrating simultaneously. Some vms are under so much heavy loads that migration fails often (our guess is that massive simultaneous migrations does not help migration convergence) - even with "suspend workload if needed" migraton policy.
I'm using ovirtmgmt network for migrations. I'm guetting the vibe that using a dedicated network for migration is "good practice"... cordialement, regards, Nelson LAMEIRAS Ingénieur Systèmes et Réseaux / Systems and Networks engineer Tel: +33 5 32 09 09 70 nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com www.lyra-network.com | www.payzen.eu Lyra Network, 109 rue de l'innovation, 31670 Labège, FRANCE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Konstantin Shalygin" <k0ste@k0ste.ru> To: users@ovirt.org, "Nelson Lameiras" <nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 3:15:29 AM Subject: Re: Re: [ovirt-users] massive simultaneous vms migrations ? Hello. What is your Migration Network?
We have some hosts that have 60 vms. So this will create a 60 vms migrating simultaneously. Some vms are under so much heavy loads that migration fails often (our guess is that massive simultaneous migrations does not help migration convergence) - even with "suspend workload if needed" migraton policy.
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------9DE2BA5435E67A9CFCE3B7A3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I mean what is your hardware? 1G? 40G? On 04/19/2017 04:16 PM, Nelson Lameiras wrote:
I'm using ovirtmgmt network for migrations.
I'm guetting the vibe that using a dedicated network for migration is "good practice"...
cordialement, regards,
Nelson LAMEIRAS Ingénieur Systèmes et Réseaux / Systems and Networks engineer Tel: +33 5 32 09 09 70 nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com
www.lyra-network.com | www.payzen.eu
Lyra Network, 109 rue de l'innovation, 31670 Labège, FRANCE
----- Original Message ----- From: "Konstantin Shalygin" <k0ste@k0ste.ru> To: users@ovirt.org, "Nelson Lameiras" <nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 3:15:29 AM Subject: Re: Re: [ovirt-users] massive simultaneous vms migrations ?
Hello.
What is your Migration Network?
We have some hosts that have 60 vms. So this will create a 60 vms migrating simultaneously. Some vms are under so much heavy loads that migration fails often (our guess is that massive simultaneous migrations does not help migration convergence) - even with "suspend workload if needed" migraton policy.
--------------9DE2BA5435E67A9CFCE3B7A3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <p><font face="Fira Sans">I mean what is your hardware? 1G? 40G?</font><br> </p> <br> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/19/2017 04:16 PM, Nelson Lameiras wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:385276516.17962092.1492593385498.JavaMail.zimbra@lyra-network.com"> <pre wrap="">I'm using ovirtmgmt network for migrations. I'm guetting the vibe that using a dedicated network for migration is "good practice"... cordialement, regards, Nelson LAMEIRAS Ingénieur Systèmes et Réseaux / Systems and Networks engineer Tel: +33 5 32 09 09 70 <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com">nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.lyra-network.com">www.lyra-network.com</a> | <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.payzen.eu">www.payzen.eu</a> Lyra Network, 109 rue de l'innovation, 31670 Labège, FRANCE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Konstantin Shalygin" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:k0ste@k0ste.ru"><k0ste@k0ste.ru></a> To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:users@ovirt.org">users@ovirt.org</a>, "Nelson Lameiras" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com"><nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com></a> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 3:15:29 AM Subject: Re: Re: [ovirt-users] massive simultaneous vms migrations ? Hello. What is your Migration Network? </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">We have some hosts that have 60 vms. So this will create a 60 vms migrating simultaneously. Some vms are under so much heavy loads that migration fails often (our guess is that massive simultaneous migrations does not help migration convergence) - even with "suspend workload if needed" migraton policy. </pre> </blockquote> </blockquote> <br> </body> </html> --------------9DE2BA5435E67A9CFCE3B7A3--
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I'm guetting the vibe that using a dedicated network for migration is "good= practice"... cordialement, regards,=20 =09Nelson LAMEIRAS=20 Ing=C3=A9nieur Syst=C3=A8mes et R=C3=A9seaux / Systems and Networks enginee= r=20 Tel: +33 5 32 09 09 70=20 <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:nelson.lameiras@lyra-n= etwork.com" target=3D"_blank">nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com</a>=20 <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"http://www.lyra-network.com" = target=3D"_blank">www.lyra-network.com</a> | <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbre= viated" href=3D"http://www.payzen.eu" target=3D"_blank">www.payzen.eu</a>= =20 =09 =09 =09 Lyra Network, 109 rue de l'innovation, 31670 Lab=C3=A8ge, FRANCE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Konstantin Shalygin" <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mail= to:k0ste@k0ste.ru" target=3D"_blank"><k0ste@k0ste.ru></a> To: <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:users@ovirt.org" t= arget=3D"_blank">users@ovirt.org</a>, "Nelson Lameiras" <a class=3D"moz-txt= -link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com" target=3D"= _blank"><nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com></a> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 3:15:29 AM Subject: Re: Re: [ovirt-users] massive simultaneous vms migrations ? Hello. What is your Migration Network? </pre> <blockquote> <pre>We have some hosts that have 60 vms. So this will create a 60 = vms migrating simultaneously. 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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B0466380FB26B610C386C746 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We have many issues migration with 1G and 18-25 vms. Is slow, stuck, failed. Switched to 10G and set migration limit to 5000Mbps (actually this is don't work, but if don't set this field, limit is 1000Mbps!) - 25vms migrate ~ 30seconds in total. On 04/19/2017 07:41 PM, Nelson Lameiras wrote:
1000 Mbps full duplex
--------------B0466380FB26B610C386C746 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <p><font face="Fira Sans">We have many issues migration with 1G and 18-25 vms.</font></p> <p><font face="Fira Sans">Is slow, stuck, failed. Switched to 10G and set migration limit to 5000Mbps (actually this is don't work, but if don't set this field, limit is 1000Mbps!) - 25vms migrate ~ 30seconds in total.</font><br> </p> <br> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/19/2017 07:41 PM, Nelson Lameiras wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:1483480525.18103533.1492605663681.JavaMail.zimbra@lyra-network.com"> <div>1000 Mbps full duplex</div> </blockquote> <br> </body> </html> --------------B0466380FB26B610C386C746--
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Nelson Lameiras < nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com> wrote:
hello,
When putting a host on "maintenance mode", all vms start migrating to other hosts.
We have some hosts that have 60 vms. So this will create a 60 vms migrating simultaneously. Some vms are under so much heavy loads that migration fails often (our guess is that massive simultaneous migrations does not help migration convergence) - even with "suspend workload if needed" migraton policy.
- Does oVirt really launches 60 simultaneous migrations or is there a queuing system ? - If there is a queuing system, is there a way to configure a maximum number of simultaneous migrations ?
I did see a "migration bandwidth limit", but this is quite what we are looking for.
What migration policy are you using? Are you using a dedicated migration network, or the ovirtmgmt network?
my setup: ovirt-engine +hosted engine 4.1.1 hosts : centos 7.3 fully updated.
for full context to understand this question : 2 times in the past, when trying to put a host in maintenance, host stopped responding during massive migrations and was fenced by engine. It's still unclear why host stopped responding, but we think that migrating 60+ vms simultaneously puts a heavy strain on storage ? So we would like to better control migration process in order to better understand what's happening. This scenario is "production only" since our labs do not contain nearly as much vm with such heavy loads. So rather than trying to reproduce, we are trying to avoid ;)
If you could open a bug with relevant logs on the host not responding, that'd be great. Live migration doesn't touch the storage (disks re not moving anywhere), but it does stress the network. I doubt it, but perhaps you over-saturate the ovirtmgmt network. Y.
cordialement, regards,
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------=_Part_17968748_1116807764.1492593713626 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi yaniv,=20 Thanks for your response. My answers below.=20 cordialement, regards,=20 =09Nelson LAMEIRAS=20 Ing=C3=A9nieur Syst=C3=A8mes et R=C3=A9seaux / Systems and Networks enginee= r=20 Tel: +33 5 32 09 09 70=20 nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com=20 www.lyra-network.com | www.payzen.eu=20 =09 =09 =09 Lyra Network, 109 rue de l'innovation, 31670 Lab=C3=A8ge, FRANCE=20 From: "Yaniv Kaul" <ykaul@redhat.com>=20 To: "Nelson Lameiras" <nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com>=20 Cc: "ovirt users" <users@ovirt.org>=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 9:13:27 AM=20 Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] massive simultaneous vms migrations ?=20 On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Nelson Lameiras < nelson.lameiras@lyra-net= work.com > wrote:=20 hello,=20 When putting a host on "maintenance mode", all vms start migrating to other= hosts.=20 We have some hosts that have 60 vms. So this will create a 60 vms migrating= simultaneously.=20 Some vms are under so much heavy loads that migration fails often (our gues= s is that massive simultaneous migrations does not help migration convergen= ce) - even with "suspend workload if needed" migraton policy.=20 - Does oVirt really launches 60 simultaneous migrations or is there a queui= ng system ?=20 - If there is a queuing system, is there a way to configure a maximum numbe= r of simultaneous migrations ?=20 I did see a "migration bandwidth limit", but this is quite what we are look= ing for.=20 What migration policy are you using?=20 -- "suspend workkiad if needed"=20 Are you using a dedicated migration network, or the ovirtmgmt network?=20 -- ovirtmgmt network=20 BQ_BEGIN my setup:=20 ovirt-engine +hosted engine 4.1.1=20 hosts : centos 7.3 fully updated.=20 for full context to understand this question : 2 times in the past, when tr= ying to put a host in maintenance, host stopped responding during massive m= igrations and was fenced by engine. It's still unclear why host stopped res= ponding, but we think that migrating 60+ vms simultaneously puts a heavy st= rain on storage ? So we would like to better control migration process in o= rder to better understand what's happening. This scenario is "production on= ly" since our labs do not contain nearly as much vm with such heavy loads. = So rather than trying to reproduce, we are trying to avoid ;)=20 BQ_END If you could open a bug with relevant logs on the host not responding, that= 'd be great.=20 -- Too late, we made the "precipitaded" mistake of reinstalling server (bea= use of other reasons), so all traces are lost. Next time I will make sure t= o keep traces.=20 Live migration doesn't touch the storage (disks re not moving anywhere), bu= t it does stress the network. I doubt it, but perhaps you over-saturate the= ovirtmgmt network.=20 -- This makes sens. It's a long shot though. Maybe it would be possible to = create a VLAN dedicated to migrations in same physical network et use QOS t= o reserve always some bandwith to oVirt administration ? (maybe opening can= of worms here....)=20 Y.=20 BQ_BEGIN cordialement, regards,=20 =09Nelson LAMEIRAS=20 Ing=C3=A9nieur Syst=C3=A8mes et R=C3=A9seaux / Systems and Networks enginee= r=20 Tel: +33 5 32 09 09 70=20 nelson.lameiras@lyra-network.com=20 www.lyra-network.com | www.payzen.eu=20 =09 =09 =09 Lyra Network, 109 rue de l'innovation, 31670 Lab=C3=A8ge, FRANCE=20 _______________________________________________=20 Users mailing list=20 Users@ovirt.org=20 http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users=20 BQ_END ------=_Part_17968748_1116807764.1492593713626 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_Part_17968749_723979428.1492593713626" ------=_Part_17968749_723979428.1492593713626 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-s= ize: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Hi yaniv,<br></div><div><br data-mce-bogus= =3D"1"></div><div>Thanks for your response. 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So this will create a 60 vms migrating simultaneously.<br></div><div>= Some vms are under so much heavy loads that migration fails often (our gues= s is that massive simultaneous migrations does not help migration convergen= ce) - even with "suspend workload if needed" migraton policy.<br></div><br>= <div>- Does oVirt really launches 60 simultaneous migrations or is there a = queuing system ?<br></div><div>- If there is a queuing system, is there a w= ay to configure a maximum number of simultaneous migrations ?<br></div><br>= <div>I did see a "migration bandwidth limit", but this is quite what we are= looking for.<br></div></div></div></blockquote><br><div>What migration pol= icy are you using? <br></div><div> -- "suspend workkiad if needed"<br= data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Are you using a dedicated migration networ= k, or the ovirtmgmt network?</div><div> -- ovirtmgmt network<br= ></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></= div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef= t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,hel= vetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000"><br><div>my setup:<br></div= ><div>ovirt-engine +hosted engine 4.1.1<br></div><div>hosts : centos 7.3 fu= lly updated.<br></div><br><div><div>for full context to understand this que= stion : 2 times in the past, when trying to put a host in maintenance, host= stopped responding during massive migrations and was fenced by engine. It'= s still unclear why host stopped responding, but we think that migrating 60= + vms simultaneously puts a heavy strain on storage ? So we would like to b= etter control migration process in order to better understand what's happen= ing. This scenario is "production only" since our labs do not contain nearl= y as much vm with such heavy loads. So rather than trying to reproduce, we = are trying to avoid ;)<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><br><div>If = you could open a bug with relevant logs on the host not responding, that'd = be great.</div><div> -- Too late, we made the "precipitaded" mistake = of reinstalling server (beause of other reasons), so all traces are lost. N= ext time I will make sure to keep traces.<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><di= v>Live migration doesn't touch the storage (disks re not moving anywhere), = but it does stress the network. I doubt it, but perhaps you over-saturate t= he ovirtmgmt network.</div><div> -- This makes sens. It's a long shot= though. Maybe it would be possible to create a VLAN dedicated to migration= s in same physical network et use QOS to reserve always some bandwith to oV= irt administration ? (maybe opening can of worms here....) <br data-mce-bog= us=3D"1"></div><div>Y.</div><div> </div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo= te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"= ><div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;c= olor:#000000"><div><br><div>cordialement, regards,</div><br><table style=3D= "margin:0px;table-layout:fixed;border:none;width:345pt;padding:0px" width= =3D"460" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td st= yle=3D"margin:0;font-size:11px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#2b3c7a;l= ine-height:16px;width:86.25pt;text-align:left" width=3D"115" valign=3D"top"= ><a href=3D"https://www.lyra-network.com/" style=3D"border:none;text-decora= tion:none;width:100%;display:block;clear:both" target=3D"_blank"><img src= =3D"cid:5610d659091be91322f0555c608bacb8b7ef1b77@zimbra" alt=3D"" width=3D"= 115" height=3D"94" border=3D"0"></a><br></td><td style=3D"margin:0;font-siz= 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Konstantin Shalygin -
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Yaniv Kaul