Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?

What about using ATA over ethernet (AoE) as an optional storage transport within ovirt? Is this feasible? It seems that the protocol is fast and efficient. On Sep 10, 2013 11:58 AM, "Baptiste AGASSE" < baptiste.agasse@lyra-network.com> wrote:
Hi all,
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De: "Itamar Heim" <iheim@redhat.com> À: users@ovirt.org Envoyé: Mardi 20 Août 2013 23:19:16 Objet: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc.
since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for "what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points" next?
below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage).
Thanks, Itamar
[1] from the top 12 V Allow disk resize V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration X Allow cloning VMs without template ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via guest agent in engine - via cloud-init X Integrate v2v into engine ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased bandwidth[4] X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in engine[5] V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch
Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same time - ISO domains on local/GlusterS - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines->Network Interfaces - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) - noVNC support - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy - Add other guest OSes to list - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but mime based launch allows using firefox now) - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based launch)
[2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure if they cover this exact use case [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration of backups should probably happen via 3rd part backup vendors? [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is covered for the basic functionality of the guest agent. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Thanks for this thread !
- ISCSI EqualLogic SAN support or use standard iscsi tools/configuration - SSO for webui and cli (IPA integration) - PXE boot for nodes - VMs dependencies on startup
Have a nice day.
Regards.
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Anyone knows when multiple types of storage domains will be available in the same cluster( e.g local disk and FC and GlusterFS)? On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Chris Smith <whitehat237@gmail.com> wrote:
What about using ATA over ethernet (AoE) as an optional storage transport within ovirt? Is this feasible? It seems that the protocol is fast and efficient. On Sep 10, 2013 11:58 AM, "Baptiste AGASSE" < baptiste.agasse@lyra-network.com> wrote:
Hi all,
----- Mail original -----
De: "Itamar Heim" <iheim@redhat.com> À: users@ovirt.org Envoyé: Mardi 20 Août 2013 23:19:16 Objet: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc.
since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for "what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points" next?
below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage).
Thanks, Itamar
[1] from the top 12 V Allow disk resize V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration X Allow cloning VMs without template ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via guest agent in engine - via cloud-init X Integrate v2v into engine ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased bandwidth[4] X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in engine[5] V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch
Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same time - ISO domains on local/GlusterS - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines->Network Interfaces - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) - noVNC support - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy - Add other guest OSes to list - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but mime based launch allows using firefox now) - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based launch)
[2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure if they cover this exact use case [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration of backups should probably happen via 3rd part backup vendors? [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is covered for the basic functionality of the guest agent. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Thanks for this thread !
- ISCSI EqualLogic SAN support or use standard iscsi tools/configuration - SSO for webui and cli (IPA integration) - PXE boot for nodes - VMs dependencies on startup
Have a nice day.
Regards.
--- Baptiste _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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I'm not sure if it's been mentioned before, but has VM segregation been considered? eg. I have two DNS VMs, I don't want them both on NODE A. It'd be useful if it got implemented as a regex filter or similar so it doesn't end up having to be manually checking boxes in dozens of VMs. eg. If DNS** ensure different node On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Liviu Elama <liviu.elama@gmail.com> wrote:
Anyone knows when multiple types of storage domains will be available in the same cluster( e.g local disk and FC and GlusterFS)?
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Chris Smith <whitehat237@gmail.com>wrote:
What about using ATA over ethernet (AoE) as an optional storage transport within ovirt? Is this feasible? It seems that the protocol is fast and efficient. On Sep 10, 2013 11:58 AM, "Baptiste AGASSE" < baptiste.agasse@lyra-network.com> wrote:
Hi all,
----- Mail original -----
De: "Itamar Heim" <iheim@redhat.com> À: users@ovirt.org Envoyé: Mardi 20 Août 2013 23:19:16 Objet: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / improvements / etc.
since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd like to ask again for "what do you need the most from oVirt / what are your pain points" next?
below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage).
Thanks, Itamar
[1] from the top 12 V Allow disk resize V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration X Allow cloning VMs without template ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via guest agent in engine - via cloud-init X Integrate v2v into engine ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased bandwidth[4] X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in engine[5] V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch
Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by now: - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the same time - ISO domains on local/GlusterS - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines->Network Interfaces - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) - noVNC support - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy - Add other guest OSes to list - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but mime based launch allows using firefox now) - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based launch)
[2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure if they cover this exact use case [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration of backups should probably happen via 3rd part backup vendors? [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is covered for the basic functionality of the guest agent. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Thanks for this thread !
- ISCSI EqualLogic SAN support or use standard iscsi tools/configuration - SSO for webui and cli (IPA integration) - PXE boot for nodes - VMs dependencies on startup
Have a nice day.
Regards.
--- Baptiste _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Andrew Lau wrote:
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned before, but has VM segregation been considered? eg. I have two DNS VMs, I don't want them both on NODE A. It'd be useful if it got implemented as a regex filter or similar so it doesn't end up having to be manually checking boxes in dozens of VMs.
eg. If DNS** ensure different node
In ovirt 3.2 there is this kind of configuration under edit VM ---> Host https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwoPbcrMv8mvcUc3cUV1ekM5UXM/edit?usp=sharing not full anti-affinity configuration, but suitable for small environments... Gianluca

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From: "Gianluca Cecchi" <gianluca.cecchi@gmail.com> To: "Andrew Lau" <andrew@andrewklau.com> Cc: "users" <users@ovirt.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 2:03:41 PM Subject: Re: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt?
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Andrew Lau wrote:
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned before, but has VM segregation been considered? eg. I have two DNS VMs, I don't want them both on NODE A. It'd be useful if it got implemented as a regex filter or similar so it doesn't end up having to be manually checking boxes in dozens of VMs.
eg. If DNS** ensure different node
In ovirt 3.2 there is this kind of configuration under edit VM ---> Host
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwoPbcrMv8mvcUc3cUV1ekM5UXM/edit?usp=sharing
not full anti-affinity configuration, but suitable for small environments...
Gianluca
This is relevant on cases where the VM should not be migrating, which may effect HA VMs. So yes, it is possible to use it unless you expect migration for these VMs.

On 09/17/2013 01:21 PM, Andrew Lau wrote:
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned before, but has VM segregation been considered? eg. I have two DNS VMs, I don't want them both on NODE A. It'd be useful if it got implemented as a regex filter or similar so it doesn't end up having to be manually checking boxes in dozens of VMs.
eg. If DNS** ensure different node
we call this 'negative affinity' with the new pluggable scheduler in 3.3, you can write a script to extend the scheduler to do this.
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Liviu Elama <liviu.elama@gmail.com <mailto:liviu.elama@gmail.com>> wrote:
Anyone knows when multiple types of storage domains will be available in the same cluster( e.g local disk and FC and GlusterFS)?
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Chris Smith <whitehat237@gmail.com <mailto:whitehat237@gmail.com>> wrote:
What about using ATA over ethernet (AoE) as an optional storage transport within ovirt? Is this feasible? It seems that the protocol is fast and efficient.
On Sep 10, 2013 11:58 AM, "Baptiste AGASSE" <baptiste.agasse@lyra-network.com <mailto:baptiste.agasse@lyra-network.com>> wrote:
Hi all,
----- Mail original ----- > De: "Itamar Heim" <iheim@redhat.com <mailto:iheim@redhat.com>> > À: users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org> > Envoyé: Mardi 20 Août 2013 23:19:16 > Objet: [Users] so, what do you want next in oVirt? > > earlier in the year we did a survey for feature requests / > improvements > / etc. > > since a lot of things were added, and priorities usually change, I'd > like to ask again for "what do you need the most from oVirt / what > are > your pain points" next? > > below[1] I've listed my understanding of what already went in from > previous survey requests (to various degrees of coverage). > > Thanks, > Itamar > > [1] from the top 12 > V Allow disk resize > V Integrate Nagios/Zabbix monitoring - via a ui plugin > V Highly Available engine - via hosted engine[2] > V Open vSwitch integration - via neutron integration > X Allow cloning VMs without template > ? Enable hypervisor upgrade/updates through engine[3] > V Allow engine on an oVirt hosted VM - via hosted engine[2] > V Enable guest configuration (root password, SSH keys, network) via > guest agent in engine - via cloud-init > X Integrate v2v into engine > ? Bond/extend ovirtmgmt with a second network for HA/increased > bandwidth[4] > X Integrate scheduling of snapshots and VM export for backups in > engine[5] > V Spice – support Google Chrome - via mime based launch > > > Other items mentioned in previous survey which should be covered by > now: > - Fix timeout when adding local host during all-in-one configuration > - Fix engine set-up when SELinux is disabled > - Provide packages for el6 (CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise Linux) > - Allow multiple VMs to be deployed from the same template at the > same > time > - ISO domains on local/GlusterS > - Show IP addresses in Virtual Machines->Network Interfaces > - OpenStack Quantum support (now called Neutron) > - noVNC support > - Support spice.html5 and websocket proxy > - Add other guest OSes to list > - Port oVirt guest agent to Ubuntu[6] > - SLA - Allow resource time-sharing > - Spice - Mac client (via mime based launch) > - Spice - port XPI plug-in to Windows (not sure this will happen, but > mime based launch allows using firefox now) > - Spice - client for Ubuntu/Debian (should be covered via mime based > launch) > > > [2] hosted engine is in active development, but not released yet. > [3] host update is supported, but not for general yum update. > [4] a lot of improvements were done in this space, but i'm not sure > if > they cover this exact use case > [5] backup api is now being pushed to master, and orchestration of > backups should probably happen via 3rd part backup vendors? > [6] I'm not sure packaging exists yet, but ubuntu is covered for the > basic functionality of the guest agent. > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users@ovirt.org <mailto:Users@ovirt.org> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >
Thanks for this thread !
- ISCSI EqualLogic SAN support or use standard iscsi tools/configuration - SSO for webui and cli (IPA integration) - PXE boot for nodes - VMs dependencies on startup
Have a nice day.
Regards.
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--b1_bd8fa272d012dc8943420f3550812707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As I'm deploying the new release, I remember the problems we had setting = up Cobbler to PXE boot and install the nodes properly. It would be extremely nice if there could be an optional embedded pxe/tftp = boot server, setup to deploy the nodes. There should be an easy way to modify some of the boot parameters when = needed. Kind regards, Jorick Astrego Netbulae --b1_bd8fa272d012dc8943420f3550812707 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div class=3D"iw_mail" dir=3D"LTR">As I'm deploying the new release, I = remember the problems we had setting up Cobbler to PXE boot and install = the nodes properly.<br><br>It would be extremely nice if there could be an = optional embedded pxe/tftp boot server, setup to deploy the = nodes.<br><br>There should be an easy way to modify some of the boot = parameters when needed.<br><br>Kind regards,<br><br>Jorick = Astrego<br>Netbulae<br></div> --b1_bd8fa272d012dc8943420f3550812707--

not sure if this is considered for future releases but it would be very nice to have application level HA (not just VM level) and configuration to be done from engine Cheers Liviu On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Jorick Astrego <j.astrego@netbulae.eu>wrote:
As I'm deploying the new release, I remember the problems we had setting up Cobbler to PXE boot and install the nodes properly.
It would be extremely nice if there could be an optional embedded pxe/tftp boot server, setup to deploy the nodes.
There should be an easy way to modify some of the boot parameters when needed.
Kind regards,
Jorick Astrego Netbulae
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On 09/23/2013 11:43 PM, Liviu Elama wrote:
not sure if this is considered for future releases but it would be very nice to have application level HA (not just VM level) and configuration to be done from engine
hi liviu, can you please elaborate a bit more? thanks, Itamar
Cheers Liviu
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Jorick Astrego <j.astrego@netbulae.eu <mailto:j.astrego@netbulae.eu>> wrote:
As I'm deploying the new release, I remember the problems we had setting up Cobbler to PXE boot and install the nodes properly.
It would be extremely nice if there could be an optional embedded pxe/tftp boot server, setup to deploy the nodes.
There should be an easy way to modify some of the boot parameters when needed.
Kind regards,
Jorick Astrego Netbulae
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Yes sure :). I'll use VMware as an example here. They have APIs presented so that VMware tools can monitor and provide application HA based on a particular application running inside the guest (can be a tomcat server or whatever app) there are some community scripts that can take advantage of this APIs but there are a few commercial software like Symantec Application HA which use a cut off version of Veritas Cluster integrated with vCenter to configure and monitor application cluster inside the VM and restart VM or the application cluster inside VM. maybe we can have a feature like that that the guest tools can provided application level monitoring and configuration of the application cluster can be integrated in the engine. Cheers Liviu On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Itamar Heim <iheim@redhat.com> wrote:
On 09/23/2013 11:43 PM, Liviu Elama wrote:
not sure if this is considered for future releases but it would be very nice to have application level HA (not just VM level) and configuration to be done from engine
hi liviu,
can you please elaborate a bit more?
thanks, Itamar
Cheers
Liviu
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Jorick Astrego <j.astrego@netbulae.eu <mailto:j.astrego@netbulae.eu>**> wrote:
As I'm deploying the new release, I remember the problems we had setting up Cobbler to PXE boot and install the nodes properly.
It would be extremely nice if there could be an optional embedded pxe/tftp boot server, setup to deploy the nodes.
There should be an easy way to modify some of the boot parameters when needed.
Kind regards,
Jorick Astrego Netbulae
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Andrew Lau
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Itamar Heim
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