Hi, I'm evaluating some thin client to connect to ovirt VMs, used as desktop workstations. I really don't care about native client support, I distribute via PXE a custom linux OS launching remote viewer. I'd like to have good multimedia performance, at a reasonable price. Googling a little, I focused on a couple of vendor: https://www.igel.com and https://www.10zig.com/. Anyone has already tested those vendor products? which model? which is the (approx.) price? Obviously any hint on other vendors are welcome. The scenario is composed of about 1500 VMs, running on ovirt (RHV to say the truth), distributed over 3 datacenters, currently accessed using old (5-7 years) PC, that I'm planning to renew. TIA, Giulio
--=-F6UTscsL+ut1++xHgkBo Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Giulio, On Tue, 2017-04-04 at 12:59 +0200, Giulio Casella wrote:
Hi, I'm evaluating some thin client to connect to ovirt VMs, used as desktop=C2=A0 workstations. I really don't care about native client support, I distribute via PXE a=C2=A0 custom linux OS launching remote viewer. I'd like to have good multimedia performance, at a reasonable price.
For best multimedia performance a resonable graphics card and cpu in your thin client is needed and up-to-date remote viewer version.
=20 Googling a little, I focused on a couple of vendor: https://www.igel. com=C2=A0 and https://www.10zig.com/. =20 Anyone has already tested those vendor products? which model? which is=C2=A0 the (approx.) price? Obviously any hint on other vendors are welcome.
I used thin clients from IGEL in many setups. If you want good multimedia performance (watching full HD videos in your vm) you need the UD5. IGEL is a good solution when it comes to managing thin clients as they have a great management server for it. The downside is that IGEL thin clients aren't really cheap and remote viewer comes in a quite old version. One of my customers uses Intel NUC devices with Fedora on it (PXE boot) and has a much better performance as with IGEL UD5, but to be fair he compared it with the 5 year old UD5 model. This is mainly because of the newer processors in Intel NUC and new virt-viewer of Fedora. Hope this helps. Regards, Ren=C3=A9
=20 The scenario is composed of about 1500 VMs, running on ovirt (RHV to say=C2=A0 the truth), distributed over 3 datacenters, currently accessed using old=C2=A0 (5-7 years) PC, that I'm planning to renew. =20 TIA, Giulio _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users --=-F6UTscsL+ut1++xHgkBo Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
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On 10/04/2017 16:40, René Koch wrote:
I used thin clients from IGEL in many setups. If you want good multimedia performance (watching full HD videos in your vm) you need the UD5. IGEL is a good solution when it comes to managing thin clients as they have a great management server for it. The downside is that IGEL thin clients aren't really cheap and remote viewer comes in a quite old version.
One of my customers uses Intel NUC devices with Fedora on it (PXE boot) and has a much better performance as with IGEL UD5, but to be fair he compared it with the 5 year old UD5 model. This is mainly because of the newer processors in Intel NUC and new virt-viewer of Fedora.
Yes, a customized fedora, distributed via PXE is exactly our solution. Often many thin (or zero) clients lacks of CPU power and graphics performance (a symptom is that audio and video are out of sync). I'll give a try to Intel NUC. Thank you, Giulio
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