Clone a VM in the User Portal
Hi, We're using oVirt 4.3.8, having an organization that intensively uses the User Portal. After upgrading from 4.2, we've noticed that cloning a VM from within the User Portal is not possible anymore. In our case, this feature was heavily used by hundreds of students deploying their VMs. Is this feature in the roadmap yet? If not, do you consider it useful to open a RFE? Thank you. Regards, Nico
Hi, This feature of cloning a VM was indeed part of the old User Portal and you are right that it's not supported by the newer VM Portal (since oVirt 4.3). It seemed that this wasn't required by VM Portal users (no user complained up till now) and that's why we omitted it and it's not part of our current roadmap to implement it as well. Nevertheless, there is no real reason not to include that ability as part of VM Portal, so you are most welcome to open an issue on https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-web-ui/issues <https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/issues> and you can push a fix yourself if you have time (or someone else from the community) :-) Thanks! Sharon On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 11:06 AM Nicolás <nicolas@devels.es> wrote:
Hi,
We're using oVirt 4.3.8, having an organization that intensively uses the User Portal. After upgrading from 4.2, we've noticed that cloning a VM from within the User Portal is not possible anymore. In our case, this feature was heavily used by hundreds of students deploying their VMs.
Is this feature in the roadmap yet? If not, do you consider it useful to open a RFE?
Thank you.
Regards,
Nico _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/HFMFJRV3AC3GVL...
Hi Sharon, Thanks for the reply! I've opened [1], so hopefully someone will be able to implement it. Regards, Nico [1]: https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/issues/2389 El 10/11/20 a las 11:38, Sharon Gratch escribió:
Hi,
This feature of cloning a VM was indeed part of the old User Portal and you are right that it's not supported by the newer VM Portal (since oVirt 4.3). It seemed that this wasn't required by VM Portal users (no user complained up till now) and that's why we omitted it and it's not part of our current roadmap to implement it as well.
Nevertheless, there is no real reason not to include that ability as part of VM Portal, so you are most welcome to open an issue on https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-web-ui/issues <https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/issues> and you can push a fix yourself if you have time (or someone else from the community) :-)
Thanks! Sharon
On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 11:06 AM Nicolás <nicolas@devels.es <mailto:nicolas@devels.es>> wrote:
Hi,
We're using oVirt 4.3.8, having an organization that intensively uses the User Portal. After upgrading from 4.2, we've noticed that cloning a VM from within the User Portal is not possible anymore. In our case, this feature was heavily used by hundreds of students deploying their VMs.
Is this feature in the roadmap yet? If not, do you consider it useful to open a RFE?
Thank you.
Regards,
Nico _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org> To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@ovirt.org <mailto:users-leave@ovirt.org> Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/HFMFJRV3AC3GVL...
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 3:08 PM Nicolás <nicolas@devels.es> wrote:
Hi Sharon,
Thanks for the reply! I've opened [1], so hopefully someone will be able to implement it.
Regards,
Nico
[1]: https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/issues/2389
El 10/11/20 a las 11:38, Sharon Gratch escribió:
Hi,
This feature of cloning a VM was indeed part of the old User Portal and you are right that it's not supported by the newer VM Portal (since oVirt 4.3). It seemed that this wasn't required by VM Portal users (no user complained up till now) and that's why we omitted it and it's not part of our current roadmap to implement it as well.
Nevertheless, there is no real reason not to include that ability as part of VM Portal, so you are most welcome to open an issue on https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-web-ui/issues <https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/issues> and you can push a fix yourself if you have time (or someone else from the community) :-)
Thanks! Sharon
On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 11:06 AM Nicolás <nicolas@devels.es> wrote:
Hi,
We're using oVirt 4.3.8, having an organization that intensively uses the User Portal. After upgrading from 4.2, we've noticed that cloning a VM from within the User Portal is not possible anymore. In our case, this feature was heavily used by hundreds of students deploying their VMs.
Out of curiosity, why cloning a VM and not provisioning the VMs from template(s)?
Is this feature in the roadmap yet? If not, do you consider it useful to open a RFE?
Thank you.
Regards,
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Hi Arik, El 10/11/20 a las 13:21, Arik Hadas escribió:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 3:08 PM Nicolás <nicolas@devels.es <mailto:nicolas@devels.es>> wrote:
Hi Sharon,
Thanks for the reply! I've opened [1], so hopefully someone will be able to implement it.
Regards,
Nico
[1]: https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/issues/2389
El 10/11/20 a las 11:38, Sharon Gratch escribió:
Hi,
This feature of cloning a VM was indeed part of the old User Portal and you are right that it's not supported by the newer VM Portal (since oVirt 4.3). It seemed that this wasn't required by VM Portal users (no user complained up till now) and that's why we omitted it and it's not part of our current roadmap to implement it as well.
Nevertheless, there is no real reason not to include that ability as part of VM Portal, so you are most welcome to open an issue on https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-web-ui/issues <https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/issues> and you can push a fix yourself if you have time (or someone else from the community) :-)
Thanks! Sharon
On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 11:06 AM Nicolás <nicolas@devels.es <mailto:nicolas@devels.es>> wrote:
Hi,
We're using oVirt 4.3.8, having an organization that intensively uses the User Portal. After upgrading from 4.2, we've noticed that cloning a VM from within the User Portal is not possible anymore. In our case, this feature was heavily used by hundreds of students deploying their VMs.
Out of curiosity, why cloning a VM and not provisioning the VMs from template(s)?
Most of our students are IT-related, and their professors want to teach them the procedure to deploy a VM from scratch. Some other courses surely deploy their VMs from a template as they are not that IT oriented and they just want to have a working VM instead of building it from scratch. We have a lot of casuistry, but in our case about 400~500 students would very welcome having back the clone option. Regards, Nico
Is this feature in the roadmap yet? If not, do you consider it useful to open a RFE?
Thank you.
Regards,
Nico _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org> To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@ovirt.org <mailto:users-leave@ovirt.org> Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/HFMFJRV3AC3GVL...
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 4:37 PM Nicolás <nicolas@devels.es> wrote:
Hi Arik,
El 10/11/20 a las 13:21, Arik Hadas escribió:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 3:08 PM Nicolás <nicolas@devels.es> wrote:
Hi Sharon,
Thanks for the reply! I've opened [1], so hopefully someone will be able to implement it.
Regards,
Nico
[1]: https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/issues/2389
El 10/11/20 a las 11:38, Sharon Gratch escribió:
Hi,
This feature of cloning a VM was indeed part of the old User Portal and you are right that it's not supported by the newer VM Portal (since oVirt 4.3). It seemed that this wasn't required by VM Portal users (no user complained up till now) and that's why we omitted it and it's not part of our current roadmap to implement it as well.
Nevertheless, there is no real reason not to include that ability as part of VM Portal, so you are most welcome to open an issue on https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-web-ui/issues <https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/issues> and you can push a fix yourself if you have time (or someone else from the community) :-)
Thanks! Sharon
On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 11:06 AM Nicolás <nicolas@devels.es> wrote:
Hi,
We're using oVirt 4.3.8, having an organization that intensively uses the User Portal. After upgrading from 4.2, we've noticed that cloning a VM from within the User Portal is not possible anymore. In our case, this feature was heavily used by hundreds of students deploying their VMs.
Out of curiosity, why cloning a VM and not provisioning the VMs from template(s)?
Most of our students are IT-related, and their professors want to teach them the procedure to deploy a VM from scratch. Some other courses surely deploy their VMs from a template as they are not that IT oriented and they just want to have a working VM instead of building it from scratch. We have a lot of casuistry, but in our case about 400~500 students would very welcome having back the clone option.
Thanks Nicolás. I'd say that even for the IT-related students it may make more sense to provision VMs from templates instead of cloning VMs - so you want them to deploy VMs from scratch, which means starting with a VM that is based on the blank template, add disk(s) and other devices, install and configure the guest and such; and then the students would use clone-VM to duplicate the VM they just prepared, right? Why would you want them to clone the VM rather than creating a template out of this VM and provision further VMs from that template with thin-provisioned disks?
Regards,
Nico
Is this feature in the roadmap yet? If not, do you consider it useful to open a RFE?
Thank you.
Regards,
Nico _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/HFMFJRV3AC3GVL...
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Hi Arik, El 10/11/20 a las 15:22, Arik Hadas escribió:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 4:37 PM Nicolás <nicolas@devels.es <mailto:nicolas@devels.es>> wrote:
Hi Arik,
El 10/11/20 a las 13:21, Arik Hadas escribió:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 3:08 PM Nicolás <nicolas@devels.es <mailto:nicolas@devels.es>> wrote:
Hi Sharon,
Thanks for the reply! I've opened [1], so hopefully someone will be able to implement it.
Regards,
Nico
[1]: https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/issues/2389
El 10/11/20 a las 11:38, Sharon Gratch escribió:
Hi,
This feature of cloning a VM was indeed part of the old User Portal and you are right that it's not supported by the newer VM Portal (since oVirt 4.3). It seemed that this wasn't required by VM Portal users (no user complained up till now) and that's why we omitted it and it's not part of our current roadmap to implement it as well.
Nevertheless, there is no real reason not to include that ability as part of VM Portal, so you are most welcome to open an issue on https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-web-ui/issues <https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/issues> and you can push a fix yourself if you have time (or someone else from the community) :-)
Thanks! Sharon
On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 11:06 AM Nicolás <nicolas@devels.es <mailto:nicolas@devels.es>> wrote:
Hi,
We're using oVirt 4.3.8, having an organization that intensively uses the User Portal. After upgrading from 4.2, we've noticed that cloning a VM from within the User Portal is not possible anymore. In our case, this feature was heavily used by hundreds of students deploying their VMs.
Out of curiosity, why cloning a VM and not provisioning the VMs from template(s)?
Most of our students are IT-related, and their professors want to teach them the procedure to deploy a VM from scratch. Some other courses surely deploy their VMs from a template as they are not that IT oriented and they just want to have a working VM instead of building it from scratch. We have a lot of casuistry, but in our case about 400~500 students would very welcome having back the clone option.
Thanks Nicolás. I'd say that even for the IT-related students it may make more sense to provision VMs from templates instead of cloning VMs - so you want them to deploy VMs from scratch, which means starting with a VM that is based on the blank template, add disk(s) and other devices, install and configure the guest and such; and then the students would use clone-VM to duplicate the VM they just prepared, right?
Yep, that's mostly it.
Why would you want them to clone the VM rather than creating a template out of this VM and provision further VMs from that template with thin-provisioned disks?
Because that would involve creating templates, and would require a permission they don't have. We've chosen a few permissions which make them able to deploy their own machines, but we don't want them to create templates or even access the admin panel. Additionally, courses are composed of groups of students which deploy different infrastructures. So one could deploy an HAproxy architecture, some other could deploy a pacemaker+corosync architecture with different parameters (some of them need more disk, some of them need more memory...), so each group would need to create templates just to deploy a couple machines. I think it's more practical (in this case) to deploy the couple of machines using a clone option. In some other courses, where all the VM parameters are equal, it's better to deploy the VM from a template and some subjects use this option too. Thanks. Nico
Regards,
Nico
Is this feature in the roadmap yet? If not, do you consider it useful to open a RFE?
Thank you.
Regards,
Nico _______________________________________________ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org> To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@ovirt.org <mailto:users-leave@ovirt.org> Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-policy.html oVirt Code of Conduct: https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/ List Archives: https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/HFMFJRV3AC3GVL...
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